Well, the you tube guy presented a whole lot of actual detail. But I understand. It is more convenient to quote interesting sounding and pointless punch lines than delving into rational discussion about what the you tube guy said.

Yeah, too bad he doesn't act like all the other politicians who don't promote themselves. I feel for how you feel.

This is why you often seem misguided. You rely on sources that are wrong or intentionally misleading or lying. Either your source is merely ignorant or knowingly, for whatever reason, is making Stefan out to be a sort of unacceptable extremist by labeling him as alt-right--probably to discredit his ideas. And you gladly fall for it because it suits what you want to believe.

The Alt-right are a brand of nationalists. Stefan Molyneux is an anarcho-capitalist ("anarcho" being the opposite of nationalist). This is even more interesting because, if I remember correctly, you referenced him in Wikipedia in response to the first video by Stefan that I posted on the forum. And the citation said he was an anarcho capitalist. Maybe you have searched so many opinions on the net, you forget an old one that contradicts a new one. Or maybe you just don't know what the words mean so you can just jumble them together in a contradictory or fallacious package.

Molyneux has been described as a part of the "alt-right" , Metro, NY Magazine, Vanity Fair, and CBS, and has been described as "one of the alt-right's biggest YouTube stars" by Washington Post


keep posting fring people presenting them as experts and truth givers ...clearly you post him consistently because it suits what you want to believe. which is fine both it cuts both ways


Sorry I am not part of Trumps assertion that thirty-three percent of the people in this country believe the fake news is in fact, and I hate to say this, in fact the enemy of the people."

You rely on sources that are wrong or intentionally misleading or lying. says who? sorry my horse can't complete with the high horse you ride on

Molyneux has been described as a part of the "alt-right" , Metro, NY Magazine, Vanity Fair, and CBS, and has been described as "one of the alt-right's biggest YouTube stars" by Washington Post


keep posting fring people presenting them as experts and truth givers ...clearly you post him consistently because it suits what you want to believe. which is fine both it cuts both ways


Sorry I am not part of the of what Trumps assertion that thirty-three percent of the people in this country believe the fake news is in fact, and I hate to say this, in fact the enemy of the people." but you maybe

:rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:

what did Mother Jones have to say about him? :rotf2:

Molyneux is alt- right.
His views thankfully are held by a few on the fringe and have no basis in reality.
Have you defoo’d your family yet?
A glance at Stefan Molyneux’s subscriber count (650,000+) on YouTube suggests that he is a charismatic, persuasive and influential individual. A skilled propagandist and an effective communicator within the racist “alt-right” and pro-Trump ranks, his promotion of scientific racism and eugenics to a large and growing audience is a serious concern. Molyneux has been delivering “race realist” propaganda, based on pseudo-scientific sources, to his audience on an ongoing basis for over two years, and thus has encouraged thousands of people to adopt his belief in biological determinism, social Darwinism and non-white racial inferiority. Molyneux puts considerable effort into cloaking the practical implications of these beliefs across his media platforms.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

cutting and pasting from the souther poverty law center is alt-dumb

Here are some Molyneux quotes from Southern Poverty Law Center
In his own words
“I don’t view humanity as a single species...”
—Podcast FDR2768, “Collective Guilt for Fun and Profit”, Saturday call-in show, August 9, 2014

“The whole breeding arena of the species needs to be cleaned the #^&#^&#^&#^& up!”
—Podcast FDR2740, “Conformity and the Cult of ‘Friendship’,” Wednesday call-in show July 2, 2014

"Screaming 'racism' at people because blacks are collectively less intelligent...is insane."
—YouTube video, The Death of Europe | European Migrant Crisis, October 4, 2015

“You cannot run a high IQ [white] society with low IQ [non-white] people…these [non-white] immigrants are going to fail...and they're not just going to fail a little, they are going to fail hard…they're not staying on welfare because they’re lazy...they’re doing what is economically the best option for them...you are importing a gene set that is incompatible with success in a free-market economy.”
—YouTube video, The Death of Europe | European Migrant Crisis, October 4, 2015

“...white people will bend over backwards to accommodate you, but when they finally get that they’re just being taken advantage of...you will see a backlash, and that backlash will be quick, decisive, and brutal.”
—YouTube video, The Death of Germany | European Migrant Crisis, September 16, 2015

“...the Germans were in danger of being taken over by what they perceived as Jewish-led Communism. And Jewish-led Communism had wiped out tens of millions of white Christians in Russia and they were afraid of the same thing. And there was this wild overreaction and all this kind of stuff.”
—Stefan Molyneux describes the Holocaust in YouTube video, Migratory Patterns of Predatory Immigrants, March 20, 2016

“...skills and abilities have not been distributed evenly by mother nature between various ethnicities and what that means is that when the #^&#^&#^&#^& hits the wall it hits some ethnicities a lot harder than others and then you get endless screams of “racism”...this is one fundamental reason why America is having trouble solving these problems is that everybody knows that if you cut spending which community is it going to be hit the hardest? Hint: it’s not Korean…if you cut social spending in America it’s going to hit the black community the hardest ...the black and Hispanic communities don’t end up acting the same as the white population or the Asian population...the media are compliant and willing to scream “racist” at anyone who points out basic fact-based differences between ethnicities…[and] you can’t deal with the situation until Obama’s out or until people understand that ethnicities in America and all around the world tend to act differently [collectively]...collectively ethnicities tend to act differently, they tend to have different incomes, they tend to have different rates of marital stability, they tend to have different rates of criminality...”
—YouTube video, The Impending Collapse of Western Civilization, November 15, 2015

“One of the biggest questions in America is ethnic crime rates...and y’know the [Asians] are the model minority…[while] the American blacks and blacks around the world have truly shockingly high levels of criminality and the general explanation is y’know slavery plus racism plus poverty, whatever it is which creates this unholy brew...but as far as I understand it there are significant contributions that your field can make to help people untangle [why] there are such differences in ethnic positive and negative behaviours in society...American blacks have roughly a standard IQ below whites... ”
—YouTube video, Genetics and Crime: Interview with Kevin M. Beaver, May 28, 2016

“If we could just get people to be nice to their babies for five years straight, that would be it for war, drug abuse, addiction, promiscuity, sexually transmitted diseases. Almost all would be completely eliminated, because they all arise from dysfunctional early childhood experiences, which are all run by women.”
—Speech at International Conference on Men’s Issues, St. Clair Shores, Michigan, June 26 - 28, 2014

“... the fomenting of anti-white hatred is extremely strong and very toxic and very dangerous, [and] I can’t help but think, Jared, that if I lived in a society of [only] white peoplethen the giant fly swatter of ‘shut up whitey, you’re racist’ could never be used against me. We could actually have debates about ideas rather than ethnicity, we could actually have debates where reason and argument could win, and of course it’s not like all white people are rational, of course not, right? But the reality is that the giant thermonuclear strike of ‘you’re a racist’ could not be brought to bear in the debate or in the discussion, and, I gotta tell ya, that’s kinda tempting in a lot of waysbecause if other people are unwilling to drop the race card I’m not sure I wanna to play the game anymore…”
—YouTube video, An Honest Conversation about Race: Interview with Jared Taylor, July 8, 2016

“...people have this idea that human groups somehow live in harmony together...but the sum total of human history is endless warfare between competing groups, two subspecies don’t inhabit the same geographical area for long, one will always displace the other, and this idea [diversity], it’s a complete naive reading of history…”
—YouTube video, The Death of Canada. Prepare Yourself Accordingly, July 8, 2017

A problem you ask?
Come on, think about it and use some common sense if you have any. Obviously it’s a problem if even some of them are dependent on government aid at some point in their lives and that money could be used to aid actual citizens and taxpayers born of LEGAL immigrant parents for instance homeless veterans for one, or maybe financial aid for your kids to go to college. But you might prefer footing the bill for illegal immigrants I suppose? That is dividing the country so maybe get your priorities straight

Trump is trying to do his job best he can and better the country.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

How do you know these young citizens aren’t studying hard in school and becoming productive, taxpaying and patriotic adults?

As for dividing the country, Trump is the one fanning the flames of bigotry, lying to the American people about the situation, deporting US service members promised citizenship, permanently stripping families of their children, working to eliminate hard working dreamers and now seeking to delegitimize the Constitution.

And the base loves it all, it’s sickening. Immigration doesn’t have to be an all or nothing proposition. You’re all being played by a white nationalist agenda. This isn’t America.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

"legal immigration" :kewl: stupid

It matters not one whit, what the lot of liberals on here believe... This will end up in front of the Supreme Court and they will read and clarify the simple words of the 14th amendment and reinstate it as it was written and enforced up until the 1960s when it was used to increase the draw for immigrants to come to the US, in my belief to increase a permanent lower class of democrat voters. US law clearly states concerning the 14th Amendment that babies born of valid diplomats or ambassadors within the US are not eligible for citizenship. It also stated that the 14th did not apply to native American Indians. The southern states did not want freed slaves to have full citizenship, so the 14th Amendment was crafted to ensure they would be given full citizenship. Please research this and understand that Trump is not trying to change the Amendment, he is attempting to enforce it as written. Not unlike our immigration laws, when prior leaders chose not to enforce the law, and when a leader finally decides to enforce the law, he in NO WAY is changing the law.

Last I checked it is America, The United States of America.

I did research this.
He is trying to change the amendment and ignoring the written record of the original debate surrounding the issue.

This is from Congressional Research Service, a part of the Library of Congress
The Fourteenth Amendment and the Civil Rights Act of 1866
Although the primary aim was to secure citizenship for African-Americans, the
debates on the citizenship provisions of the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the
Fourteenth Amendment indicate that they were intended to extend U.S. citizenship
to all persons born in the United States and subject to its jurisdiction regardless of
race, ethnicity or alienage of the parents. The Civil Rights Act of 1866 declared that
“all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding
Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States.”31 The
Fourteenth Amendment declared that “[a]ll persons born or naturalized in the United
States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of
the State wherein they reside.”32 The Civil Rights Act of 1866 differs from the
Fourteenth Amendment by using the terms “not subject to any foreign power” and
“excluding Indians not taxed.”
During the debates on the act, Senator Trumbull of Illinois, chairman of the
committee that reported the civil rights bill, moved to amend the bill so that the first
sentence read, “All persons born in the United States, and not subject to any foreign
power, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States without distinction of
color.”33 Senator Cowan of Pennsylvania, who opposed both the Civil Rights Act of
1866 and the Fourteenth Amendment, asked “whether it will not have the effect of
naturalizing the children of Chinese and Gypsies born in this country?” Senator
Trumbull replied, “Undoubtedly.” The two disagreed as to whether, under the law
in existence prior to the enactment of the Civil Rights Act of 1866, ChineseAmericans
were citizens of the United States. Cowan raised the specter of unfettered
Chinese immigration to California, resulting effectively in something tantamount to
a takeover of California by the Chinese empire, if the proposed language were
adopted. Trumbull asked Cowan whether the children born in Pennsylvania to
German parents were not U.S. citizens, to which Cowan replied that Germans were
not Chinese, Australians or Hottentots or the like. Trumbull replied that the law
made no distinction between the children of Germans and Asiatics “and the child of
an Asiatic is just as much a citizen as the child of a European.” Later in the debates,
Senator Johnson of Maryland urged Senator Trumbull to delete the phrase “without
distinction of color” because it was unnecessary since even without the phrase he
understood that Trumbull’s proposed amendment “comprehends all persons, without
any reference to race or color, who may be so born.” Trumbull felt that it was better
to retain the phrase to eliminate any doubt or dispute as to the meaning of his
amendment.34

hey pete....if they meant everyone they would have written it this way...

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

Read the record, you claim to be an originalist on one hand and then change when it doesn't suit you.

Soon you may realize the importance of Judge Kavanaugh.... as I said I believe that this will be decided by the Supreme Court and it will no longer grant blanket citizen ship to illegals. It will take a year or so, but this is something that Trump will come through on.

I think the Supreme Court will surprise you
So legislating from the bench is acceptable now, if you get what you want?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

I'm not suggesting we need to change any laws. I just don't see how a child born in the US who's a US citizen by law deserves any less of a chance than any other US citizen regardless of the status of their parents.

There's always been tension on this issue but I don't recall previous administrations in my lifetime taking the hard line anti-immigrant positions this president is implementing. Nothing even comes close.

The 14th Amendment doesn't give blanket citizenship to illegals. Have you been smoking with Nebe?

you and spence have comparable batting averages way below the mendoza line

i think he means 2 illegals don't make a right

You know what I meant illegals born in the US.

Exactly..... 2 illegals don't make a white.... ;)

Yeah, well you say a lot of stuff. Good for you.

Did you watch each podcast to see the full context for each quote? Can you point out what is false in each quote? The Southern Poverty Law Center is not a reliable source for unbiased opinion.

.. had nothing to do with color...just our laws...

I know LOL that part was a joke.

maybe I should have put ... 2 Juan's don't make a white.

If both Juan's identify as Juanita's they still wouldn't be legal residents of the US, however they could "legally" use the ladies rest room..... LOL

I picked this quote from the list of 11 Southern Poverty Law Center selection that you posted because it is one of the most discriminatory sounding ones. In it, Stefan has a conversation with an Indian student studying in Germany who feels a bit depressed because of how he perceives the way some of the "common" German folk look at him.

This quote you posted had virtually nothing to do with the conversation. It was actually elicited by the Indian student's feelings about German self-perception after their holocaust history. And was a very brief explanation, in response to the student, of what many Germans thought at the time. It was not a statement of what Stefan believed. And your three sentence quote is the total of what was said about that. The video was not about the holocaust and the quote was not a description of the holocaust as the SPLC labels it.

The actual conversation was about the student's depression over feeling like an "economic immigrant." Stefan takes him, through a series of questions, to finally realizing why the student felt depressed. In the end, there was a total agreement between Stefan and the student. And a lot was revealed about the psychic cost and predatory nature of economic migration.

Knowing in general what Molyneux thinks, I'm sure the other 10 quotes are selected from videos to make them appear to be racist or discriminatory, but I very seriously doubt that they are actually any of that. This is that deceptive trick of selection out of context that leftists use to smear those they fear. You got taken.

Here is the video, if you care to watch it to verify what I said. There are a lot of very informative, interesting videos like this which are marginalized by leftists by labeling the authors as "alt-right," or "extremist," or "lunatic," or whatever deprecation that motivates people to prejudge and not watch or listen. The motivation behind the perception, it appears to me, is to keep as many people as possible ignorant of whatever truth the left wants to hide.

Here is the video, if you care to watch it to verify what I said. Watch the whole thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhNtmI3PRzI