I used to enjoy reading accounts of ghosts appearing on certain holidays, or cemeteries.

If you read Secretary Mattis letter, I think he was crystal clear and I quote
“One core belief I have always held is that our strength as a nation is inextricably linked to the strength of our unique and comprehensive system of alliances and partnerships. While the US remains the indispensable nation in the free world, we cannot protect our interests or serve that role effectively without maintaining strong alliances and showing respect to those allies.”
“My views on treating allies with respect and also being clear-eyed about both malign actors and strategic competitors are strongly held and informed by over four decades of immersion in these issues. We must do everything possible to advance an international order that is most conducive to our security, prosperity and values, and we are strengthened in this effort by the solidarity of our alliances.”
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The people praising the action should concern all of us.

There are a lot of things, even much more important than this, that should concern all of us. But that ain't gonna happen.

I have great admiration for Mattis. And also for his reasons for resigning. I have great admiration for generals like MacArthur, who was fired by an also admirable Present Truman.

I heard a respected general on the radio today who agreed with the pullout. We still do have troops and allies in the area. And we still have airpower there, which is what we mostly used anyway.

I have gut reactions to the Syrian involvement. And I can't explain why, but I felt a sense of relief that we're getting out of there. As well would I if we pulled out of Western Europe.

I'm not praising what Trump did. But I don't condemn it. Nor do I think that our alliances are in danger because of it. I kind of like the idea that Russia and Iran will have to spend their blood and treasure to finish off ISIS. Russia couldn't defeat the Afghan mujahideen because we armed it, and so, as a reward, we got the Taliban in return. Maybe Russia can do the job on ISIS if we don't interfere. Although, like JohnR, I would love to arm the Kurds to the hilt and somehow help them to be independent. But, considering the perfidious nature of the region, who knows how that might come back to bite us.

Oh, well, now my less than praise but lack of condemnation should be of concern to y'all. Love it.

News that the White House had ordered the Pentagon to draw up plans for a troop withdrawal from Afghanistan provoked widespread criticism that the move would kneecap efforts to broker a peace deal to end America's longest war.

But there was one group on Friday celebrating the reports — the taliban

Yep Trumps got our allies backs

seems that the US's closest allies may not have known about the prospect of troop withdrawal in Afghanistan. Before the news broke, BBC

Or Trump decided to withdraw U.S. troops after call with Turkish prime minister

They can get out of Afghanistan. Why are they there? Are they trying to build an Afghanistan in their own image? Are the Taliban Afghans? Can our allies arm the Afghans the way we did when they fought the Soviets? The Afghans are reputed to be these fierce fighters. They seem to lose their fierceness when big daddy America doesn't have their back.

A totally different topic then what's going on...

did you Know

In recent months, Washington has been trying to help launch a peace process between Kabul and the Taliban


Trump’s decision comes just days after senior U.S. officials met in Dubai with top representatives from the Taliban’s political office in Qatar and its Pakistan-based senior leadership. The insurgents would now enter any formal peace talks from a position of deep strength, because they’ve gotten the withdrawals they’ve always wanted without having to give up anything in return.

But but Bo bergdahl was a horrible deal .. maybe but compared to this its not a blip on the radar screen

Next thing you know he will be giving the Taliban 200Billion overnight,unmarked. Because while Bergdahl May have been a bad deal,it got horrendous at certain junctures.
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History really isn’t your friend is it?
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If I could reach through the computer, I would give big hugs. Do what makes you happy.
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A top US official in the fight against the Islamic State group has quit over President Trump's decision to pull troops from Syria, reports say.

Brett McGurk, the US special presidential envoy for the Global Coalition to Defeat IS,


I know everyone is against Trump just because he is Trump

God forbid His people are bailing on him for actual reasons ....

or are are they just RINOS

Not to worry, he has Jared and Ivanka to give him advise on global affairs.

you people
are literally turning into imbeciles. everything he does is wrong. he drank a glass of water?? you know who else drank water - Hitler!

he may well be wrong in syria. but i don’t recall the libs getting their panties bunched up when obama
pulled us out of iraq, which also had serious adverse effects.
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does Rand Paul not know anything?

if trump always did what the military asked, the libs here would
be freaking out about the military industrial complex.
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Ha thanks Chris.
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You forgot that as part of his deal with the devil, he also had Roy Cohn reincarnated, hence we have Stephen Miller
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speaking of imbeciles ever hear of research

At the end of the Bush administration, when the Status of Forces Agreement, or SOFA, was negotiated, setting 2011 as the end of the United States’ military role, officials had said the deadline was set for political reasons, to put a symbolic end to the occupation and establish Iraq’s sovereignty.

Mr. Obama was willing to support a continued military presence. In June, diplomats and Iraqi officials said that Mr. Obama had told Mr. Maliki that he was prepared to leave up to 10,000 soldiers to continue training and equipping the Iraqi security forces. Mr. Maliki agreed, but said he needed time to line up political allies.

the Iraqis were unwilling to accept anything that infringed on their sovereignty.

Acutely aware of that sentiment, the Iraqi leadership quickly said publicly that they would not support legal protections for any American troops.

So are you suggesting we should have used force and stayed .... its their country PS did anyone have a crystal ball to foresee the future ?? hindsight is always 20\20 and a provided a weak position for criticism years after

Racists and hateful people always say “you people”. It’s a dog whistle term.

Just throwing it out there as a learning tool.
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Stephen Miller made Wolf Blitzer look like a child this week on border security. a bumbling child.
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so instead of saying you people, i should
have to list all of you by name, individually? no thanks.
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and thoughtless people who can’t defend their positions, call everyone who disagree with them a racist, a learning tool for you.
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he could have tried getting another sofa, a lot of people thought he should
have. but because we’re talking about obama, everyone who disagrees with, is an idiot and a racist, while everyone who disagrees with trump, is legitimate and righteous.
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Glad you found a new alt right hero
Same technique you use, scream early and often.
Stephen Miller would never have been in public in any Republican administration
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Why are you blaming me, all I did was vote for a person who is saving your future.
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I am amused by how the snowflakes love to Cherrypick the “dog whistle “ terms.
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Cowardice
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It’s more like genius.

:hihi:
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Did you see the interview?

Wolf said democrats support border security. Miller asked Wolf what policies democrats advocate and listed many policies that they opposed. Wolf bumbled like an idiot, then changed the subject. Nothing sinister or alt-right about what Miller did. Do you hate Miller because he's good at making liberals look stupid?

Do a tiny bit of research on the guy
You’re confusing a reporter with a representative of the Democrats party. It’s not a debate with a winner.
When did Miller say these are our policies and this is why we think this is the correct remedy for this issue. All he did is, like you, scream louder and longer.
You have totally bought into the Trumplican lies.
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"Pete
In life, it's important to know when to stop arguing with people and simply let them be wrong."



you argue with yourself a lot :spin: