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Sea Dangles 06-12-2019 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1168472)
republicans don't believe in higher education?

Just more stupid.
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PaulS 06-13-2019 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1168472)
republicans don't believe in higher education?

They certainly criticize colleges constantly and the further right a school is generally it is not as good as a left leaning school.

PaulS 06-13-2019 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1168475)
Just more stupid.
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As usual, nothing to add says the snowflake who couldn't take the things people on this forum said about Trump so decided to start posting here.

scottw 06-13-2019 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1168482)
They certainly criticize colleges constantly and the further right a school is generally it is not as good as a left leaning school.

which means republicans don't believe in higher education??

Sea Dangles 06-13-2019 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1168483)
As usual, nothing to add says the snowflake who couldn't take the things people on this forum said about Trump so decided to start posting here.

I call it like I see it, sorry. Keep posting, it is always entertaining.
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Jim in CT 06-13-2019 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1168457)
Why is this thread?
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because some people would say that giving false hope to desperately sick people
for your own gain, is unethical. clearly you’re ok with it, at least when a democrat does it.
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The Dad Fisherman 06-13-2019 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1168482)
They certainly criticize colleges constantly and the further right a school is generally it is not as good as a left leaning school.

Did you ever ask yourself if a lot of it is deserved? College campuses have been losing there minds the past few years.

PaulS 06-13-2019 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1168485)
I call it like I see it, sorry. Keep posting, it is always entertaining.
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Your posts always are entertaining also. In a shake my head way.

PaulS 06-13-2019 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1168484)
which means republicans don't believe in higher education??

They certainly don't support higher education to the same extent as the Dems. do.

Jim in CT 06-13-2019 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1168469)
he wasn't talking about democrats :bl:

Pow!!! Right in the kisser!
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Jim in CT 06-13-2019 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1168489)
They certainly don't support higher education to the same extent as the Dems. do.

evidence please?

we don’t enthusiastically endorse waste or indoctrination. education, yes.

which side opposes school
choice, can you remind me, i forgot?

to democrats, “supporting education” means giving more
money to teachers unions, so that much of that money will
get donated to democratic political campaigns. But it doesn’t necessarily improve the quality of the education being offered.

Spending more, isn’t necessarily the same thing, as supporting education.
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PaulS 06-13-2019 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168491)
evidence please?look at where the majority of the great schools are - left leaning states.

we don’t enthusiastically endorse waste or indoctrination. education, yes.

which side opposes school
choice, can you remind me, i forgot? You mean segregationist schools? That is not supporting education, that is trying to take $ from public schools.

to democrats, “supporting education” means giving more
money to teachers unions, so that much of that money will
get donated to democratic political campaigns. But it doesn’t necessarily improve the quality of the education being offered.

Spending more, isn’t necessarily the same thing, as supporting education.
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Your right spending more isn't necessarily the same thing as supporting education but it is a very good proxy.

PaulS 06-13-2019 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1168487)
Did you ever ask yourself if a lot of it is deserved? College campuses have been losing there minds the past few years.

It is bc conservatives don't like science and the schools piss conserv. off bc of that? Conserv. didn't support colleges as much as liberals far longer than the past few years.

JohnR 06-13-2019 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1168489)
They certainly don't support higher education to the same extent as the Dems. do.




I'm not sure Harvard's School of West Sri-Lankan Genderfluid Archeology Department is higher education than Perdue's Aerospace Engineering program.

*Some* of higher ed's famed institutions have jumped the rails reality.

PaulS 06-13-2019 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1168497)
Harvard's School of West Sri-Lankan Genderfluid Archeology Department

I was thinking of auditing one of their courses :hihi:

scottw 06-13-2019 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1168489)
They certainly don't support higher education to the same extent as the Dems. do.

this is just dumb

The Dad Fisherman 06-13-2019 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1168495)
It is bc conservatives don't like science and the schools piss conserv. off bc of that? Conserv. didn't support colleges as much as liberals far longer than the past few years.

Funny, my daughter just graduated from a Southern Baptist (Assuming they lean right), University, that's located in a "Red State", with a degree in BioChemistry (I think that qualifies as a science)

Jim in CT 06-13-2019 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1168493)
Your right spending more isn't necessarily the same thing as supporting education but it is a very good proxy.

the best schools are private schools. i’m not sure that because they happen to be located in states that today are liberal, means anything. some
of them are hundreds of years old, so i’m not sure todays political climate in those states, is why those schools were built there. but that’s what you are suggesting?

show me the evidence that spending is any kind of proxy. Here in CT, we spend
more than 14k per kid in my town ( southington). schools are pretty good. the catholic school
costs 5k per year, and has much higher test scores.

there is almost zero correlation between spending and student performance. student performance is largely determined in the home. i was a public schoolteacher for a brief time, i come from a family of
many public schoolteachers. money has almost nothing to do with it, especially when 90% of
an education budget goes to teachers salaries, healthcare, and pensions. Students don’t know or care about that stuff. that does almost nothing to improve test scores.
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scottw 06-13-2019 08:32 AM

I love science

PaulS 06-13-2019 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1168501)
this is just dumb

Are you channeling your inner SD?

Jim in CT 06-13-2019 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1168495)
It is bc conservatives don't like science and the schools piss conserv. off bc of that? Conserv. didn't support colleges as much as liberals far longer than the past few years.

conservatives don’t like
engineering and
medicine? gimme a break...you’re
making stuff up out of thin air.

conservatives are probably resisting the science of climate change for political reasons, just as liberals deny the science of unborn baby development in pursuit of their own political agenda. both sides play dumb when it suits them.
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Sea Dangles 06-13-2019 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1168501)
this is just dumb

Proving it to those who don’t pay attention. Not a bright bulb here.
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PaulS 06-13-2019 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1168506)
the best schools are private schools. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Don't you think that has something to do with being able to accept who they want, put certain requirements on the students/parents, charge tuition (or more tuition) which limits the pool to a certain type of people and not have to educate every student - even those who aren't invested in their education?

PaulS 06-13-2019 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1168512)
Proving it to those who don’t pay attention. Not a bright bulb here.
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As usual, nothing intelligent to add. Any time you want to compare education or income, let me know :)

It must be a struggle in your daily life.

scottw 06-13-2019 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1168515)

Any time you want to compare education or income, let me know :)

ohhhh....gloves off!

scottw 06-13-2019 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1168508)
Are you channeling your inner SD?

just being honest

PaulS 06-13-2019 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1168518)
just being honest

but you sound so snarky and really are not adding anything other than what seems like an attempt to annoy. Not one of them is a good quality.

PaulS 06-13-2019 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1168516)
ohhhh....gloves off!

Why should I take anything from a troll?

scottw 06-13-2019 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1168520)
but you sound so snarky

you really need to expand your vocabulary

Jim in CT 06-13-2019 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1168513)
Don't you think that has something to do with being able to accept who they want, put certain requirements on the students/parents, charge tuition (or more tuition) which limits the pool to a certain type of people and not have to educate every student - even those who aren't invested in their education?

yes it has something to
do with that.

but spending money isn’t always the answer. if i’m a teacher at a crappy school
in hartford, and next year i get a fat raise and cheaper health insurance, how does that help my students perform better? because i’m any municipal education budget, that’s where all the money goes. because the unions control the politicians, at least here in CT. when you have to cut things like art and music, and lay-off non tenured teachers to satisfy union contracts, i don’t see how that helps students. do you?
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