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pbadad 02-28-2020 09:23 PM
Did u try reversing the 2? Opt to have the larger diameter in rear to have increased rear buoyancy.
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Linesider82 02-29-2020 07:44 AM
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Did u try reversing the 2? Opt to have the larger diameter in rear to have increased rear buoyancy.
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Sorry I thought you were talking about the swimmer. The line tie on the needlefish is the horizontal loop. (To the left in the picture). I have used it in both directions. The amount of surface area on the plug is so great that it drives it up to wake on top even though it sinks. I think I either have to make the same plug with a thinner diameter or make a slightly shorter needle.
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pbadad 02-29-2020 05:53 PM
I thought the thin taper when i turned the mold model was the front. I would think it may help the nose from breaking thru surface.
A thinner profile will help sink rate.
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Linesider82 02-29-2020 11:54 PM
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I thought the thin taper when i turned the mold model was the front. I would think it may help the nose from breaking thru surface.
A thinner profile will help sink rate.
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The thin taper is in front. The plug has a ton of displacement which holds it up in current / during retrieve. It's very strong, I can place it across my knee, pull from each end and try to snap it and it won't. My next needle mold will be in the Super strike neighborhood of profile diameters considering the strength of the material.
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pbadad 03-01-2020 08:02 AM
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The thin taper is in front. The plug has a ton of displacement which holds it up in current / during retrieve. It's very strong, I can place it across my knee, pull from each end and try to snap it and it won't. My next needle mold will be in the Super strike neighborhood of profile diameters considering the strength of the material.
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Hee hee. U like my thin concept??
I just did a few more in a lighter wood to have a very slow level drop.

BTW do u want a template for the mold of one? Dupe is still set up. Take 2 minutes.
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Linesider82 03-03-2020 06:10 PM
Nope, I'm working on a new "idea" I'll send it your way soon.

Re-Poured a mold today to make myself more nervous that I didn't screw it up. Old fckd up molds are recyclables. Just chop them up and mix it in.
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Linesider82 03-08-2020 03:19 PM
Did my first 6 plugs in the new mold. The quality is much better now.
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Surf Caster 03-09-2020 01:24 PM
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Did my first 6 plugs in the new mold. The quality is much better now.
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Pics! Very cool project. i never really fished large needles until i had some success w/ the high hook this summer.

plastic ones seem very cool.

Linesider82 03-09-2020 10:10 PM
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I started this plug with wood. first maple in the 16/17 winter, then ayc the following winter, then started molding them last year, and just recently made a better mold where I took my time with the little details, and some fellow surfcaster's feedback after using the plug for themselves.

In the pic, the top one is ayc, which worked well but eventually the nose would bust open from contact with rocks. The second and third from the top are last year's mold, when I cast that mold I suspended the plug in my mold "box" and poured the silicone to mid-line with the intention of a 2 part mold. You can see on the green one all the air bubbles it trapped in the mold, and thus every plug I made was a one sided rough-side lol. The bottom one is the new mold, and you can see the small white spot on the base of the plug where the pliers are just ahead of the swivel... that is the original swivel position. In the new mold I simply added another swivel location.

pbadad 03-10-2020 06:48 AM
The new mold makes a smooth pour . Like the copper color. Reason you brought hook back?
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Linesider82 03-10-2020 07:35 AM
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The new mold makes a smooth pour . Like the copper color. Reason you brought hook back?
Steve said he'd like the hook further back. It might offer a different swim depth with the same pour parameters. It also fishes better with a single belly treble and a flag so moving the hook back shouldn't be a diving issue, it might make the plug swim a wider dart.
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Linesider82 03-17-2020 05:52 PM
Sunday passed by quickly, anyone building still? Would love to see some other's progress.

I'm picking away at what I want to throw this year (hopefully COVID-19) passes fast. And then filling out handout orders.

Here's my herring:
https://youtu.be/v0Om0ZnUSY8
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angler229 03-17-2020 09:19 PM
Started building for the first time in a 8 years. Have a batch of tuna stickbaits, spooks and poppers in the making that were supposed to be for a Panama trip in April.

pbadad 03-18-2020 07:31 AM
As u know Matt I been home recovering and out of work so I make the best of time. Did more slim needles slow sinks and decided to turn 20 ayc blanks for next years Pikes. I will be doing them with a single 5/0 hook and will be testing prototypes with alternative weight compensation. I also plan to try 2 different lips for an action I prefer in deep divers. I have 2 ready to swim today.
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Diggin Jiggin 03-19-2020 11:48 AM
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Well on the plus side working at home this week has given me time to get some stuff epoxied... Small needles in pine and maple.

Diggin Jiggin 03-19-2020 11:50 AM
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Not sure what to call these, kind of like a bottle darter... Been messing around with versions of these for the past couple of seasons.

piemma 03-19-2020 12:22 PM
I'd call it a bottle darter. The late Bob Hahn made a version close to that.

pbadad 03-19-2020 01:23 PM
DJ. How do they swim?
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Linesider82 03-19-2020 07:12 PM
Those look great!
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Higgie 03-20-2020 05:12 AM
Those darters look great DJ. Curious on the needles. Must be a weight difference on the line to maple. Are the pines floating ?? What’s the weights.
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Diggin Jiggin 03-21-2020 07:18 PM
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Those darters look great DJ. Curious on the needles. Must be a weight difference on the line to maple. Are the pines floating ?? What’s the weights.
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All of those needles sink, the pine are about 1.75 oz the soft maple ones are about 2.

I got the last of what I had been working on finished this week. More needles in a different style, some in Pine and some in maple. The slimmer yellow one is pine and 1.75, the larger ones are 2.5 for maple and 2.0 for the pine.

Diggin Jiggin 03-21-2020 07:22 PM
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and tomorrows project :)

I'm going to try and play with some birch I cut down that has had about a year to dry out...

ProfessorM 03-23-2020 04:19 PM
Nice stuff guys.
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t_man7 11-07-2021 08:43 PM
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You'll find plexiglas 1/8&1/4 is a great template. I must have 30 or templates made over the years. I either trace by hand an existing plug on the paper stuck to the plexi or use the duplicator to trace an existing plug. Remove the wire& hardware . Chick carefully in lathe not to wreck plug. Take a dowel and make a rounded point on 1 end. Slide into dupe where the cutter goes. Remove stylus and take a short pencil and put where stylus was. Adjust your wooden cutter to rub against the plug body and push down on prncil lightly to mark paper on plexi. As u turn the dupe handle , slightly push dupe cutter feed handle against plug. The dowel will follow plug OD and the pencil will mimic the outline and draw it on the paper. I use plexi about 2 1/2" wide by approx length of plug plus a couple longer. Cut out. I use a bandsaw. Dip below the nose and tail diameter to establish a plugs length then carry a slight angle back to outer edge of plexi. If u want to see a picture of some of my templates, let me know and ill put them on my laptop since we can't post pics from phone.
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This is a great tip, I will have to try it. What’s the reasoning behind the slight angle back to the outer edge of the plexi?


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