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PaulS 02-24-2020 09:21 AM

So what was the proof she lied?

spence 02-24-2020 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1186722)
So what was the proof she lied?

Just wrap yourself into a fetal position and keep chanting deep state. No further proof is necessary.

wdmso 02-24-2020 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1186719)
wayne,,, you might want a do-over on that one too

To much truth:jump:

scottw 02-24-2020 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1186724)

Just wrap yourself into a fetal position and keep chanting

this would be great practice for you guys for November

Jim in CT 02-25-2020 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1186722)
So what was the proof she lied?

again, she said in court that Stone was convicted for covering for the president. no such thing was in the charges. you’d think that maybe the judge presiding over the trial, might have a casual familiarity with the charges of the case she’s presiding over.
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spence 02-25-2020 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1186809)
again, she said in court that Stone was convicted for covering for the president. no such thing was in the charges. you’d think that maybe the judge presiding over the trial, might have a casual familiarity with the charges of the case she’s presiding over.
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Yea Jim, perhaps you could give her a ring and explain the finer details of the case :rotfl:
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PaulS 02-25-2020 09:26 PM

He was sentenced for lying to Congress, witness tampering/threatening and obstructing the investigation into election interference by Russia.
He did all that to "cover" up for Donald Trump. I think the Judge is smart enough to recognize that "covering up" is not a crime. Saying he covered up for Donald Trump is not a lie.
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Jim in CT 02-25-2020 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1186812)
He was sentenced for lying to Congress, witness tampering/threatening and obstructing the investigation into election interference by Russia.
He did all that to "cover" up for Donald Trump. I think the Judge is smart enough to recognize that "covering up" is not a crime. Saying he covered up for Donald Trump is not a lie.
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she said he was convicted for covering up for trump. that’s a lie. it’s that simple.
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Jim in CT 02-25-2020 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1186811)
Yea Jim, perhaps you could give her a ring and explain the finer details of the case :rotfl:
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i know he didn’t get convicted for covering up for trump.
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PaulS 02-26-2020 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1186815)
she said he was convicted for covering up for trump. that’s a lie. it’s that simple.
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It is not a lie. If you can't understand the statement, no one can help you.

Jim in CT 02-26-2020 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1186821)
It is not a lie. If you can't understand the statement, no one can help you.

show me then, where in the charges it states he was covering for the president. that’s what she said he was convicted of.
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PaulS 02-26-2020 07:54 AM

so you think "covering" for someone is a crime? Or do you think the judge thinks "covering" is a crime and didn't know what the charges were?

Use your critical thinking like you do every day at work.

Jim in CT 02-26-2020 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1186825)
so you think "covering" for someone is a crime? Or do you think the judge thinks "covering" is a crime and didn't know what the charges were?

Use your critical thinking like you do every day at work.

no, the judge somehow thinks it’s a crime. SHE said Stone was convicted of covering for the president. Sounds like you are agreeing with me, that he was not convicted of any such thing.
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Jim in CT 02-26-2020 08:38 AM

Paul, judge Jackson said stone “was prosecuted for covering up for the president.”

The judge said that, not me. So when you attack that statement for being absurd ( which it is), you’re not attacking me as you thought you were. you were attacking the judge.

So now that you know judge Jackson said it, do you still feel it’s a stupid statement? Or is it brilliant, now that a democrat said it.
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spence 02-26-2020 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1186831)
no, the judge somehow thinks it’s a crime. SHE said Stone was convicted of covering for the president. Sounds like you are agreeing with me, that he was not convicted of any such thing.
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No she said he was prosecuted for covering up for the president, that’s exactly why he was charged with lying, witness tampering and obstruction. You’re making stuff up again Jim, it’s getting old.
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PaulS 02-26-2020 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1186831)
no, the judge somehow thinks it’s a crime. SHE said Stone was convicted of covering for the president. Sounds like you are agreeing with me, that he was not convicted of any such thing.
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correct - he was not, but I'm smart enough to understand that she meant Stone was convicted for trying to cover up for the Pres. by lying, tampering/threatening and obstructing the investigation .

scottw 02-26-2020 08:48 AM

Jim...they can't even agree...let them argue amongst themselves :laugha:

Jim in CT 02-26-2020 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1186837)
Jim...they can't even agree...let them argue amongst themselves :laugha:

they’re denying what she said was true, but can’t bring themselves to admit she was wrong, because she’s an obama appointee. TDS in all its glory.
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wdmso 02-27-2020 01:46 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Six-year-old girl arrested at Florida school walked out in flex cuffs


But,but but roger stone (poor old man)

The Dad Fisherman 02-27-2020 03:12 PM

The chick had it coming
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Jim in CT 02-27-2020 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1186907)
Six-year-old girl arrested at Florida school walked out in flex cuffs


But,but but roger stone (poor old man)

what in god’s name does this have to do with Stone?
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wdmso 02-28-2020 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1186914)
what in god’s name does this have to do with Stone?
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Seal team six ring a bell

Jim in CT 02-28-2020 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1186935)
Seal team six ring a bell

oh my yes, because one unarmed
auxiliary police officer, is the same as the heavily armed tactical team that went and hit Stone. you can’t have a more timid response than a single reserve officer.

Jeez...
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Pete F. 02-28-2020 10:37 AM

Perhaps you think the FBI should take more chances with their lives?
Here is the view of a guy who has been in that situation.

Was the FBI’s show of force too heavy-handed, as has been alleged? Absolutely not.

Lest you believe Mueller's office or the Justice Department decides how many agents are deployed for an arrest, and what type of hardware they’re armed with, you’re mistaken. The FBI makes that call. Prosecutors draft indictments and litigate in court on behalf of The People. They leave the sweet science of apprehension tactics and techniques to other professionals.

Having been involved in the planning and execution of hundreds of early morning arrests like this one, nothing appeared to be “irregular.” This was a “knock and announce” warrant service, not to be confused with a “no knock” (exigent circumstances) arrest warrant. FBI special agents were prepared to employ mechanical breaching tools to enter Stone's home if the occupant delayed their passage.

Stone was not afforded an opportunity for a self-surrender, negotiated through his attorney, because there were concerns he may have been a flight risk (Stone insists he doesn’t own a passport) or that he may have destroyed evidence had there been warning of the coming indictment. Therefore, the FBI would have been directed to take Stone into custody. The means and methods are then left to the FBI.

Some have speculated it was overkill treatment of an elderly man, eradicating the proverbial gnat with a hammer. But some of the most dangerous encounters I experienced in my 25-year FBI career didn’t necessarily come when apprehending career street criminals or violent gang members. It was often the unassuming, benign in appearance, white-collar fraudster, corrupt politician, or senior church member infected by pedophilia. These lawbreakers and miscreants weren’t adorned with tattoos or menacing glowers. But they had a lot to lose, and in their moment of reckoning, sufficiently panicked, they often acted irrationally — choosing to hurt themselves or attack the (blessedly) armed instruments of the state sent to apprehend them.

To those pearl-clutchers raising alarms about “armed FBI agents,” you must be made aware that FBI agents were granted arrest powers and authority to carry firearms back when Congress passed a series of anti-crime legislation back in the summer of 1934, precipitated by an agent’s murder during the Kansas City Massacre of 1933.

That’s why “armed FBI agent” is such a foolish redundancy. As far as Stone’s inaccurate, hyperbolic characterization of agents armed with “grenades,” it deserves no response.

So spare me the “they didn’t need that many people for one arrest” proselytizing. You don’t know that of which you speak. In the FBI, we tend to defuse situations by removing the fight-or-flight inclination, via our overwhelming presence. To arrest one, we bring 10. For 10, we’ll bring 100. And yet, we still have a wall loaded with photos of our service martyrs. None of them expected to lose their life on that particular day.

Sea Dangles 02-28-2020 10:44 AM

Thank you for sharing his words Bitchslappedboy
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PaulS 02-28-2020 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1186951)
Thank you for sharing his words Bitchslappedboy
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What a vile person you are.

Pete F. 02-28-2020 10:55 AM

I just ignore Dingleberry because he's the prime example of the old adage that, The emptier the head, the louder the mouth.

Sea Dangles 02-28-2020 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1186953)
What a vile person you are.

I can’t wait to take you fishing with my other kids.
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Pete F. 07-10-2020 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1186629)
Stone's buddy can't pardon him because that makes the Fifth Amendment moot.
So will he commute his sentence is the question.

In Donald Trump's America, Roger Stone is rewarded for lying and Lt. Col. Vindman is punished for telling the truth.
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Sea Dangles 07-10-2020 10:25 PM

Thank You for sharing bsb


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