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detbuch 08-18-2020 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1199119)
He can’t win on his job rating, certainly not on handling this heath crisis (wait until fall not even close to over), when you trash the economy that ship sailed, I’m pretty sure it’s not on foreign relations, oh wait his empathy for American lives loss due to his incompetence opps that won’t play, man he can’t even say look at all the 2016 promises I made good on, what you have left is cheating with foreign help or his go to black and white card. You and your little band of hard core Trumpets are who he plays to, it’s as predictable as your defense of his piss poor performance, VOTE for change or live with the sh*t show that will follow.

Talk about spin . . . WOW . . . a real sh*t show of it!

Pete F. 08-18-2020 08:16 PM

The report states flatly that Konstantin Kiliminik is a Russian intelligence officer. So let that sink in: Donald Trump's campaign chairman worked closely with a Russian intelligence officer. Just how can you argue the FBI had no predicate to investigate?
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Pete F. 08-18-2020 08:48 PM

The report states flatly that Konstantin Kiliminik is a Russian intelligence officer. So let that sink in: Donald Trump's campaign chairman worked closely with a Russian intelligence officer. Just how can you argue the FBI had no predicate to investigate?
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Pete F. 08-18-2020 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199122)
Talk about spin . . . WOW . . . a real sh*t show of it!

Mueller could only use evidence that would be admissible in court to reach his conclusions. Even if he couldn't prove a crime (there was lots of obstruction) the GOP gave Trump a pass on soliciting, accepting & benefiting from Russian help to win. Fail.
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detbuch 08-18-2020 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199125)
Mueller could only use evidence that would be admissible in court to reach his conclusions.

Duh . . .

detbuch 08-18-2020 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199123)
The report states flatly that Konstantin Kiliminik is a Russian intelligence officer. So let that sink in: Donald Trump's campaign chairman worked closely with a Russian intelligence officer. Just how can you argue the FBI had no predicate to investigate?

Basically old news that you can re-hash all you want, I'm not interested. What the Senate report said, among a lot of old news is “We can say, without any hesitation, that the Committee found absolutely no evidence that then-candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government to meddle in the 2016 election,”

Got Stripers 08-19-2020 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199127)
Basically old news that you can re-hash all you want, I'm not interested. What the Senate report said, among a lot of old news is “We can say, without any hesitation, that the Committee found absolutely no evidence that then-candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government to meddle in the 2016 election,”

I really think your board name needs to be changed to DaBarr as it would be more in line with how you roll. Much like Barr you are the resident defender of Trump and as I said above nobody is fooled.

Pete F. 08-19-2020 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199127)
Basically old news that you can re-hash all you want, I'm not interested. What the Senate report said, among a lot of old news is “We can say, without any hesitation, that the Committee found absolutely no evidence that then-candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government to meddle in the 2016 election,”

Wrong

The person running the Trump campaign had a close associate who is a Russian intelligence officer, with whom he was sharing confidential campaign information as Russia mounted its effort to help Trump get elected.
As part of that effort, Russia broke into Democratic systems, then passed damaging information to WikiLeaks for carefully timed release. The president’s longtime friend had a line into the “leak” part of Russia’s hack-and-leak, through which he learned the subject and timing of upcoming leaks and kept Trump personally informed.
If that’s not “collusion,” what is?
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spence 08-19-2020 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199127)
Basically old news that you can re-hash all you want, I'm not interested. What the Senate report said, among a lot of old news is “We can say, without any hesitation, that the Committee found absolutely no evidence that then-candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government to meddle in the 2016 election,”

That’s not what the report said, it’s what Rubio said and he’s either lying or he didn’t read his own report.

This once again blows Trump and Barr’s claims of a hoax to bits and highlighting that Trump lied to the FBI.
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Pete F. 08-19-2020 07:54 AM

Everyone in Trump's orbit lied to Mueller & SSCI about the campaigns involvement with Russia. People don't lie under oath & risk perjury charges unless they are hiding something. Something big. We all know what it is. And the GOP gave Trump a pass for it.

The committee made a bi-partisan CRIMINAL REFERRAL of Don Jr., Kushner, Bannon & others to the DC US Attorney’s Office.

No wonder Barr was so desperate to pull career US Attorney Jessie Liu from her position to install his lackey. Do we think that the lackey, Tim Shea, who dumbed down the Roger Stone sentence AND tried to tank the Mike Flynn case was going to let Don Jr., Jared and Bannon be prosecuted?

PaulS 08-19-2020 08:14 AM

Where's SD to post Greatest President ever?

PaulS 08-19-2020 08:28 AM

“On numerous occasions over the course of his time of the Trump Campaign, Manafort sought to secretly share internal campaign information with Kilimnik. … Manafort briefed Kilimnik on sensitive campaign polling data and the campaign’s strategy for beating Hillary Clinton.”



“While there were several problems with the F.B.I.’s FISA renewals for Page, the committee assesses that Page’s previous ties to Russian intelligence officers, coupled with his Russian travel, justified the F.B.I.’s initial concerns about Page.”


“Campaigns should notify F.B.I. of all foreign offers of assistance, and all staff should be made aware of this expectation. In order to not encourage, or amplify foreign influence efforts, campaigns should reject the use of foreign origin material especially if it has potentially been obtained through the violation of U.S. law.”

And yet Trump has repeatedly said he would accept foreign aid in his election.

detbuch 08-19-2020 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1199131)
That’s not what the report said, it’s what Rubio said and he’s either lying or he didn’t read his own report.

It's his report not yours. He knows what's in his report.
And he's eminently qualified to say what's in it.


This once again blows Trump and Barr’s claims of a hoax to bits and highlighting that Trump lied to the FBI.

That's what you claim.

Pete F. 08-19-2020 09:57 AM

Among many other damning findings, the Rubio Cotton Report confirms what Mueller told Representative Val Demings on July 24, 2019 during his testimony before the House Intelligence Committee:

The President of the United States lied under oath to the Special Counsel’s Office.
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Pete F. 08-19-2020 09:59 AM

Roger Stone also lied under oath to protect Trump, and he was convicted by a jury and ordered to jail because of it. But then Trump repaid Stone’s criminal “loyalty” by abusing his pardon power to make sure that Stone never set foot in jail for lying to protect Trump.
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spence 08-19-2020 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199142)
It's his report not yours. He knows what's in his report. And he's eminently qualified to say what's in it.

So I guess he's a liar then.

detbuch 08-19-2020 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1199146)
So I guess he's a liar then.

Guess whatever you wish. You've guessed wrong before.

detbuch 08-19-2020 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199144)
Among many other damning findings, the Rubio Cotton Report confirms what Mueller told Representative Val Demings on July 24, 2019 during his testimony before the House Intelligence Committee:

The President of the United States lied under oath to the Special Counsel’s Office.
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"But that is not what Mueller said under oath . . .

"Mueller's report accuses a number of figures in Trump's orbit of lying but does not accuse Trump of doing so, instead saying that some of Trump's written responses were “incomplete or imprecise.” Recently disclosed sections of the report show the special counsel only raised the possibility that Trump lied, while also leaving open the possibility that Trump simply did not recall his conversations with Stone from two years prior."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...ritten-answers

Pete F. 08-19-2020 11:57 AM

No, that’s what the Rubio Cotton report said

Apparently his memory is not as good as the Stable Genius claims
Person woman man camera TV
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Got Stripers 08-19-2020 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1199136)
Where's SD to post Greatest President ever?

Be careful what you wish for, it’s been almost civil around here with him busy having fun in the new boat and home his better half bought him.

spence 08-20-2020 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199150)
No, that’s what the Rubio Cotton report said

Apparently his memory is not as good as the Stable Genius claims
Person woman man camera TV
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It also said there’s no evidence of Ukrainian meddling to help Clinton, that the Russian interference was substantial and that Trump and many Republicans have actively participated in pushing Russian propaganda to cover it all up.

Every single Republican on the Senate Intel committee signed off on this.
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scottw 08-20-2020 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1199151)
Be careful what you wish for, it’s been almost civil around here with him busy having fun in the new boat and home his better half bought him.

he's probably having a great time chasing tuna while you jealous dummies spend your days here complaining about him and trump:hihi:

wdmso 08-20-2020 07:54 AM

FYI. This is a GOP sanctioned Intel report

PaulS 08-20-2020 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1199173)
he's probably having a great time chasing tuna while you jealous dummies spend your days here complaining about him and trump:hihi:

Personally I can charter a tuna trip if I want. I am not jealous of him and actually feel sorry for him and his family. You should see how many posts you have here - and usually there are snarky posts meant to piss someone off - sad individual.

Pete F. 08-20-2020 08:20 AM

There’s no doubt Tweety embraced Russia’s work to help him win our election in 2016. Apparently the GOP thinks Putin wants what’s best for America. If you disagree, Vote.

detbuch 08-20-2020 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199177)
There’s no doubt Tweety embraced Russia’s work to help him win our election in 2016. Apparently the GOP thinks Putin wants what’s best for America. If you disagree, Vote.

Whatever embracing you claim went on, there is not sufficient evidence of conspiring. And however much Russia tried to interfere in the election, there is no real evidence of it influencing it or of succeeding in anything other than sowing the kind of massive discord we are witnessing now.

I doubt that Putin wanted to see the U.S. economy grow the way it did before covid. I don't think he wanted to see the unemployment rate increase the way it did, or the stock market to continue its crazy upward bound, or to see the US redo NAFTA and make trade deals with Pacific Rim countries. If he did, maybe he did want what's best for America.

scottw 08-20-2020 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1199176)

Personally I can charter a tuna trip if I want.

.

they won't let you on the boat in skinny pants...just sayin'

PaulS 08-20-2020 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1199204)
they won't let you on the boat in skinny pants...just sayin'

Can't ruin those expensive pants so I bought a pair of grundens for my boat. Just got to go out on the boat once to try them out.
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Pete F. 08-30-2020 08:44 PM

No collaboration?
What a crock of bull.
Tweety is in with the Russians up to his eyeballs.

New York Times: Justice Department secretly curtailed investigation into Russian election interference
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Pete F. 08-31-2020 11:30 AM

D.C. Circuit DENIES Michael Flynn's petition to force the federal judge on his case to grant DOJ's motion to dismiss the prosecution, in a reversal of the initial three-judge panel ruling in Flynn's favor.
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