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scottw 01-29-2022 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1221560)

But snitch lines for accountability for teachers is fine they’re the enemy indoctrinating conservatives youth

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I'm ok with holding teachers and school administrators accountable at this point...if you've ever dealt with them you'd know that lack of accountability among teachers and administrators is a serious issue...they think of themselves, in many cases, as their own little kingdoms

if they aren't doing anything wrong they shouldn't have anything to worry about?..right? that's what were always told in other areas

scottw 01-29-2022 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1221560)

The 10-member board in McMinn County chose to remove “Maus” from its eighth-grade language arts curriculum, citing its profanity and nudity.


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10-0 vote....sounds like everyone agreed

scottw 01-29-2022 08:56 AM
btw...I'm OK with a tip line for police acting badly....

Jim in CT 01-29-2022 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1221563)

if they aren't doing anything wrong they shouldn't have anything to worry about?..right? that's what were always told in other areas
this is obviously true. same
with teachers having no reason to oppose their lessons being available for parents ( the paying customer) to see.
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Jim in CT 01-29-2022 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1221570)
btw...I'm OK with a tip line for police acting badly....
every town has a way for people
to complain about police.
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PaulS 01-29-2022 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1221560)
But snitch lines for accountability for teachers is fine they’re the enemy indoctrinating conservatives youth


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McCarthy wishes he was still alive and a Senator as he would be having a field day.

Jim in CT 01-29-2022 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1221579)
McCarthy wishes he was still alive and a Senator as he would be having a field day.
you’re opposed to parents having the ability to express concern about what’s being taught by teachers they pay for?

you’re all saying teachers should have zero accountability?
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Jim in CT 01-29-2022 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1221579)
McCarthy wishes he was still alive and a Senator as he would be having a field day.
McCarty hurt people who weren’t doing anything wrong.

why do you assume that teachers ( who have a pretty good union last time i checked) would be punished if parents made baseless accusations?

tenured teachers are almost impossible to fire.

looks like your side is upset that light is finally being shed in all this.
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scottw 01-29-2022 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1221579)
McCarthy wishes he was still alive and a Senator as he would be having a field day.
did you think that up yourself or see it somewhere?

PaulS 02-02-2022 01:10 PM
More whining:

A parent in Texas called for a children's biography about former First Lady Michelle Obama to be pulled from school libraries because they viewed it as unfair to former President Donald Trump.

The Katy, Texas, parent took issue with a book titled "Michelle Obama: Political Icon" by Heather E. Schwartz, claiming it "unfairly" depicted former President Donald Trump "as a bully," according to NBC News, which on Wednesday published a list of 50 books that parents in Texas have asked schools to remove.

The book was reviewed and allowed to stay at the library. How many complaints like this will be made in the future?

The Dad Fisherman 02-02-2022 01:59 PM
Gee, 335,000,000 people in this country and someone did something stupid, what are the odds.

The woman is a moron, the book didn't get removed, and it should have been a non-story. Moving right along.

PaulS 02-02-2022 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1221851)
Gee, 335,000,000 people in this country and someone did something stupid, what are the odds.

The woman is a moron, the book didn't get removed, and it should have been a non-story. Moving right along.
This type of whining is going to be more and more frequent. Snowflakes
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The Dad Fisherman 02-02-2022 02:10 PM
Whatever floats your boat, Paul. :rolleyes:

PaulS 02-04-2022 08:36 AM
More R cancelations:

Members of the Republican National Committee are pushing forward with a resolution to censure Reps. Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger,

The measure rebukes Cheney and Kinzinger for their involvement on the Jan. 6 select committee investigating Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the result of the 2020 election,

scottw 02-04-2022 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1221939)
More R cancelations:

Members of the Republican National Committee are pushing forward with a resolution to censure Reps. Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger,

The measure rebukes Cheney and Kinzinger for their involvement on the Jan. 6 select committee investigating Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the result of the 2020 election,
it's not really a cancellation....

Pete F. 02-04-2022 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1221943)
it's not really a cancellation....
The official position of the Republican Party will be that January 6 was "legitimate political discourse" and that the only people who deserve punishment are the two Republicans who opposed it.

GOP voters are ok with whatever happens. They'll adjust their "beliefs" accordingly.

Just watch

detbuch 02-04-2022 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1221947)
The official position of the Republican Party will be that January 6 was "legitimate political discourse" and that the only people who deserve punishment are the two Republicans who opposed it.

GOP voters are ok with whatever happens. They'll adjust their "beliefs" accordingly.

Just watch
Big government supposition Pete strikes again with powerful speculation . . . and backs it up with the condition that we need to just watch. And, of course, his authoritative (authoritarian) tone is convincing enough to prove that the supposed Republican official position is a priori wrong.

Outstanding propaganda . . . er . . . information.

Pete F. 02-04-2022 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1221947)
The official position of the Republican Party will be that January 6 was "legitimate political discourse" and that the only people who deserve punishment are the two Republicans who opposed it.

GOP voters are ok with whatever happens. They'll adjust their "beliefs" accordingly.

Just watch
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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1221948)
Big government supposition Pete strikes again with powerful speculation . . . and backs it up with the condition that we need to just watch. And, of course, his authoritative (authoritarian) tone is convincing enough to prove that the supposed Republican official position is a priori wrong.

Outstanding propaganda . . . er . . . information.
You prove my point

There is no speculation, this is a new low for the RNC. Beating cops is “legitimate political discourse”? Sad thing is they know it isn’t true but they put out the hostage tape for the 2x impeached sore loser to get $$.

How little faith they have in conservative winning issues.

PaulS 02-04-2022 01:17 PM
More Canc:

Missouri’s top health official, a Republican who opposes mask and vaccine mandates but spoke approvingly of the Covid vaccine, was supposed to have been confirmed by State Senate by Friday.

Instead, conservative state legislators stonewalled the process earlier this week and Donald Kauerauf resigned on Tuesday, becoming the latest public health leader to be forced from office, as the politicized fight about masks, mandates and pandemic response rages on.

scottw 02-04-2022 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1221968)
More Canc:

Missouri’s top health official, a Republican who opposes mask and vaccine mandates but spoke approvingly of the Covid vaccine, was supposed to have been confirmed by State Senate by Friday.

Instead, conservative state legislators stonewalled the process earlier this week and Donald Kauerauf resigned on Tuesday, becoming the latest public health leader to be forced from office, as the politicized fight about masks, mandates and pandemic response rages on.
I guess you won't be moving to Missouri...

detbuch 02-04-2022 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1221951)
You prove my point

There is no speculation, this is a new low for the RNC. Beating cops is “legitimate political discourse”? Sad thing is they know it isn’t true but they put out the hostage tape for the 2x impeached sore loser to get $$.

How little faith they have in conservative winning issues.
It's hard to tell what your point was since you painted with such an all encompassing brush. "The official position of the Republican Party will be that January 6 was "legitimate political discourse" and that the only people who deserve punishment are the two Republicans who opposed it."

McDaniel didn't say the the only people who deserve punishment are Cheney and Kinzinger. Neither did she say that beating cops is legitimate political discourse.

She didn't say that everything that happened on Jan6 was legitimate political discourse. Excluding the property damage and any physical assaults that were not defense or retaliation against physical force imposed on them, the rest, the majority of protesters did participate in legitimate political discourse.

Some got caught up in misdemeanors such as trespassing. But, at least to some of us, there seems to be an intentionally abusive overreaction to what occurred, especially against the majority who were not actually seditious or conspiratorial in intent. Languishing for months in crappy imprisonment while waiting for indeterminately scheduled trials is an abuse of civil rights in the cases of even the most egregious crimes and certainly more so in cases of minor ones.

McDaniel supported what she considered the original purpose of the Jan6 congressional investigation including any legitimate punishment for actual serious crimes. She considers that what is actually happening has gone well beyond that and has become politically motivated.

Many of us tend to agree with her.

So, what are the conservative winning issues that you have faith in?

Jim in CT 02-04-2022 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1221968)
More Canc:

Missouri’s top health official, a Republican who opposes mask and vaccine mandates but spoke approvingly of the Covid vaccine, was supposed to have been confirmed by State Senate by Friday.

Instead, conservative state legislators stonewalled the process earlier this week and Donald Kauerauf resigned on Tuesday, becoming the latest public health leader to be forced from office, as the politicized fight about masks, mandates and pandemic response rages on.
This week, Alexandra Ocasio Cortez told Senator Schumer to "make life as difficult as possible" for Senators Manchin and Sinema. Is that your idea of inclusion, tolerance, and embracing diversity of opinions?

I guess you're more concerned about the Missouri state government, than about the US Senate. Either that, or you only care when Republicans do it.

PaulS 02-04-2022 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1221973)
This week, Alexandra Ocasio Cortez told Senator Schumer to "make life as difficult as possible" for Senators Manchin and Sinema. Is that your idea of inclusion, tolerance, and embracing diversity of opinions?

I guess you're more concerned about the Missouri state government, than about the US Senate. Either that, or you only care when Republicans do it.
looks to me that the Republican National Committee are trying to cancel Cheney and kinzinger.
But I thought it was only Democrats who cancel others? Isn't that one of those things you howl at the moon about?
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Pete F. 02-04-2022 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1221972)
It's hard to tell what your point was since you painted with such an all encompassing brush. "The official position of the Republican Party will be that January 6 was "legitimate political discourse" and that the only people who deserve punishment are the two Republicans who opposed it."

McDaniel didn't say the the only people who deserve punishment are Cheney and Kinzinger. Neither did she say that beating cops is legitimate political discourse.

She didn't say that everything that happened on Jan6 was legitimate political discourse. Excluding the property damage and any physical assaults that were not defense or retaliation against physical force imposed on them, the rest, the majority of protesters did participate in legitimate political discourse.

Some got caught up in misdemeanors such as trespassing. But, at least to some of us, there seems to be an intentionally abusive overreaction to what occurred, especially against the majority who were not actually seditious or conspiratorial in intent. Languishing for months in crappy imprisonment while waiting for indeterminately scheduled trials is an abuse of civil rights in the cases of even the most egregious crimes and certainly more so in cases of minor ones.

McDaniel supported what she considered the original purpose of the Jan6 congressional investigation including any legitimate punishment for actual serious crimes. She considers that what is actually happening has gone well beyond that and has become politically motivated.

Many of us tend to agree with her.

So, what are the conservative winning issues that you have faith in?
Everything Trump Touchs Dies
Orwell said, “In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”

The GOP is censuring Cheney and Kinzinger for one reason: They’re telling the truth about the party and Donald Trump's attempt to overturn an American election. And the GOP wants to shut them up.

To be clear, apparently Ronna's not calling the actual violent attack on the U.S. Capitol "legitimate political discourse" — she's just calling the preceding conspiracy to overturn the election, seize voting machines and execute a coup "legitimate political discourse."

As far as just tourists caught up in misdemeanors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWJVMoe7OY0

Jim in CT 02-04-2022 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1221974)
looks to me that the Republican National Committee are trying to cancel Cheney and kinzinger.
But I thought it was only Democrats who cancel others? Isn't that one of those things you howl at the moon about?
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So the RNC is supposed to support every Republican forever?

"But I thought it was only Democrats who cancel others?"

Can you point to where anyone here, said Republicans never do that? But we aren't obsessed with perfect conformity. The GOP had a little civil war recently, it's over, and the Liz Cheney/ Josh Bolton types lost. They lost resoundingly.

The Democrats civil war is between the moderates (very few left) and the progressives, and that's nowhere near over. But that's not a winning issue for you, so you pretend it doesn't exist.

PaulS 02-04-2022 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1221976)
So the RNC is supposed to support every Republican forever?

"But I thought it was only Democrats who cancel others?"

Can you point to where anyone here, said Republicans never do that? But we aren't obsessed with perfect conformity. The GOP had a little civil war recently, it's over, and the Liz Cheney/ Josh Bolton types lost. They lost resoundingly.

The Democrats civil war is between the moderates (very few left) and the progressives, and that's nowhere near over. But that's not a winning issue for you, so you pretend it doesn't exist.
There's no Civil War amongst the Democrats. They're having legitimate disagreements. The DNC is not trying to kick people out and censure them like the RNC is at the national level. If you don't like the post I guess you could just ignore it maybe go start another thread about some democrat not wearing a mask .
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wdmso 02-04-2022 05:01 PM
They chose to join Nancy Pelosi in a Democrat-led persecution of ordinary citizens who engaged in legitimate political discourse that had nothing to do with violence at the Capitol. That's why Republican National Committee members and myself overwhelmingly support this resolution."


This is the newest republican and the far right mantra

you see it with Masks you See it with with school board protest and the DOJ you see it with Trump and those arrested after Jan 6th and Now with the RNC
They are petrified of Trump and their fring base .


"The leaders of the Republican Party have made themselves willing hostages to a man who admits he tried to overturn a presidential election and suggests he would pardon Jan. 6 defendants, some of whom have been charged with seditious conspiracy," Cheney tweeted

Ironic coming from one of the Most conservative women around who no is considered a Rino

Jim in CT 02-04-2022 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1221980)
There's no Civil War amongst the Democrats. They're having legitimate disagreements. The DNC is not trying to kick people out and censure them like the RNC is at the national level. If you don't like the post I guess you could just ignore it maybe go start another thread about some democrat not wearing a mask .
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no civil war. that’s why biden went to congress twice to beg them
to
pass infastructure, and twice they told him to go kick rocks, only passed it when they got annihilated in VA.

can’t pass build back better despite controlling everything.

the progressives are telling the moderates to join the gop, AOC is telling schumer to make their lives as miserable as possible.

totally legitimate!!
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PaulS 02-04-2022 05:43 PM
Sounds like a good idea for another thread for you to start.
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Jim in CT 02-04-2022 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1221987)
Sounds like a good idea for another thread for you to start.
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lobbing baseless insults is easier than defending a losing proposition.
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