haha, didnt even see you posted that too haha.:D

If you decide (like I did) that you don't give a rat's arse about the warranty, and keep them turning yourself, all of the headaches go away. They're the same inside as a Luxor 300 and not much more complicated than a Penn series 700 Spinfisher, or a 380/390 series Mitchell, and much simpler than a Mitchell 302 and any Japanese reel.

You'd be surprised at the places you can find many of the components, like bearings, O-rings and seals.

They stiffen in cold weather---like any reel with heavy grease or 80 wt gear oil in them. You just go to a lighter oil in cold weather, like drivers had to do when I was a kid (remember single weight oils and changing from 30 or 40 weight to 20 weight every November?).

You can open one with a $10 Sears strap wrench--who needs a $90 self service kit. And the new ones open with a 22 mm open end wrench. So you ding up the paint a bit---so what---it gives the reel a little character. Looks like a fishing tool instead of an SUV. BTW, I've pulled out stuck F-150s with my Grand Cherokee :D :laughs:

Worst thing they ever did was go from a hardened stainless steel shaft to a titanium one, and a titanium roller. Fortunately, they did this after I bought mine ;):

DJ has spoken! :happy:

I am the batman

Batman has spoken! :laughs:

For stripers and the beach, I'm a Penn man.

For offshore, I'm a Fin Nor/Penn man.

VS, Penn, and the rest can't hold up to multiple BFT's in one day like Fin Nor reels can and keep going with just a hosing.

Ahab and Tycoons all the way. :D

Screw VS, I'll take REEL engineering. ;)

Man I remember getting into it pretty good a few years back with a guy named MikeP about the merits of a VS, to think he would actually own one :D :D :D :wave:

I got my 150 and 200 back from VS last week, it only cost me $55 beyond the standard service charge. Those Snoppy geniuses removed my Penn drag washers from the 200 and replaced them with Rullon (sp?) only cost me $3.50/washer and $2.50/SS washer, I could have replaced them myself with the 12 washers I have. Then there was that $18.50 handle stud?????? whatever that is.....

Going to Sears anyone need anything.....................

Hey! "Status" was the word I was looking for, like in status symbol! Thank you T. Lapinski! Oh by the way, I drive an SUV also. It's a 2001 ZR71 two door black s-10 blazer, you know, the high rider model, made for off road use and thats what I do with it. Now for the challenge of the CT River, I fished there for shad and bass before. Is the challenge getting through Holyoke safely to the river and having your car or "SUV" still there when you get back and if it is there, is the thing stripped down and on blocks cause someone stole the tires and ripped off the sound system and the airbags? I can see there is a challenge there and you definetly need a well built reel to survive that! Sorry but I couldn't resist. BTW, the "challenge" thing is sooooo.......whatever.

Now before you blow another gasket because you own a VS or a couple of VS's or maybe a herd of them, and you are offended there is a modicum of truth in what I am saying. You know, I have been at this fishing thing for the better part of 40 plus years now so I think I can comment on reels and tackle somewhat. I used to fish to make a living. I put myself through college catching bass for the market, I started doing that at 17. Paid cash for my first truck. A brandy ass new 3/4 ton chevy pick-up with a 350 4 barrel crb, stripped with 4 wheel drive and hit the beach. I have guided, worked charter boats, commercial codfished for years off shore and now spend the better part of 60 nights a season on the beach driving the sands of the outer Cape looking for Striped Bass. I have two Penn 704's that my Dad bought me in 1969. The drags are as smooth as they day I opened the boxes and they work like charms. Penn F-----d up the ss series reels in thier recent redesigns. But my older 750's and my older 650 ( which has recently been repainted because I wore the finish right off through years of 5 nights a week Striper fishing) still runs like a charm as well as do my Daiwa BG-30'S AND 20'S and my two Shimano Spheros and my old reliable Alcedo's. Proper care will let any reel perform well and you definetly do not have to spend a ton of dough to have a reel that performs well under the most adverse conditions. It's a myth.:wall:

Flap is a yuppie. :bshake:

ya right, i seen what you drive weewee.:D

Moi? :blush:

every thing sucks
vs are fag reels
buffy plugs for 25$:yak:
2 fish @28" :rolleyes:
and last but most least fishing clubs and the internet
lets rock:smash:

I use a 706 have for yrs. I'm in a fishin club I'm a dweeb.Thank U for ur support.

thank You nibula, what have You been up to any way?
I stirr the [pot] good no,,,,,,,,,
u been making any more plugs?

Uh-Oh, I must be a flappy yuppie.

I own a VS200
(gift from an old fishing friend)

I run a 23 Seacraft
(30 year old junker I restored myself)

Dodge Ram (is that o.k.)

I've never had anyone work on anything of mine - except a doctor, so I think I can handle a simple reel.

Ah, prejudice is a beautiful thing ain't it.

Sometimes I drink Bud:D

Thanks for the info.

Bill

anither Hi dollar vs fishing sinkercraftinfishinbubbahgrumpaholic
:)

Billybob must be a yuppie. :bshake:

your a yuppie now go away

:rolleyes:

look You grumpy bastage :smash:

I think Krispy is a grumpy yuppie. :bshake:

anyone can land a fish from the beach w/o any rocks for 10 miles around :rolleyes:
Its a wonder why anyone who fishes the Cape would buy a reel for more than $30 and more than 200 yds of line. Overkill

Oooooh, fightin' words. Put up ya dukes BM! :laughs:

Mr. Krispy don't like Cape Cod.:uhuh:

HEY, THEY GOT ROCKS IN FALMOUTH. :hihi:

Anyway, I don't care I'm comfortable with my yuppuality.
So guess what.

I got a VS pliers (another gift), and when I sent my reel back cause they sold it with a stripped knob (that's a drag knob on the reel BM), they sent me a VS hat!

And I got a watch that tells me when it's high tide

And I got a Golden retriever

I used to have a Weber grill

So there.

I'm even wearing a necktie - right now.

Go ahead bash away, if it makes ya feel good.

I like CC, but its the difference between skydiving and jumping off a curb. One of em's a little more complicated

Dang, I was hoping you'd save that for a Montauk vs. CC thread. :laughs:

nah nah nah nah nah you dont have a babies arm holding an apple

i am couregeous cat

Bartender, I'll have what ChrisL's having...

im to :spam: out to fight right now krissy ,please save this for another time cause its a good one good for serious yelling and fighting:D

:)

This is gonna be a rough winter :doh:

3 finger tequilla .
Im courageous cat

Winter is for Wild Turkey shots. Yum, feeeeeel the burn......

a little Yukon Jack will get rid of the chill .

I am courageous cat

SoCo and 7-Up. Yum.

Two fingers of single barrel bourbon.

even a VS won't save you in holyoke! the area i am talking about is a bit further south. i know you have been at it a while fishing the sands of the cape. put brade on a 704 and make it do what you need it to do when the water in the river is running 8' over flood stage and you are hooked in to a 30# bass. now try to keep that fish away from the trees floating downriver that you are also dodging in the current because you are wading in the middle of the river, at night, up to the tops of your waders. oh yeah, keep that same fish from running right into the trees that are now under several feet of water near the shore because the river is so high. a penn WILL NOT do it. i have been there and proved it. i have a pile of green, black, and whatever 704's and 706's on my reel shelf that have to stay home now. i have nothing against you flaptail, i just strongly take offense to your comments. you may be right in your veiws for some people, but not all. you use the same logic as one that generalizes all blondes as dumb.

oh yeah, V8 dodge durango SLT. :D

DJ has spoken, again!

We're not worthy...