Eben, given the new baby I'd just wait until you're really going to be fishing more frequently to get one...

Like 2010 :behead:

-spence

:mad:

I thought I saw Eben the other night on some riocks in Narragansett

Was he being chased by 4 meddling kids and a great dane in a green van?

Reben, Relp! :spidey:

-spence

whats a vs ? why it 600 ? does it come in many colors ? does it make you any better with the ladies ? will it help you perform better ?

I fish way less than I did when we didn't have a child. ;)

Babies are marvelous things - they scare me w/ the wobble head until their necks get strong and can hold themselves up. Next thing you know they start walking .......... then running.......... then giving you lip because they don't know why you won't buy them a Game Boy because every one else on the bus has one?! :P LMAO - my daughter is just 7 now and I got a lot of white hairs already because of her.

Enjoy your child when they are small - they grow up FAST !

Penn reels
 

Eben

What is the oil trick?

shhhh! you wouldnt believe all the sympathy plugs i'm getting from guys who think i cant fish....;)

I'll be out tonight for a few hours around dusk:humpty:

Re: Penn reels
 

if you dab a bit of oil on the main shaft where the drag washers make contact, the shaft will stay slippery while fishing.. you'll hve to tighten down your drag a few more turns than usual, but what will happen is your washers will glide around the shaft much easier and smoother than without the oil...

Two points...

I own a VS, I am the furthest thing from a Yuppie or even rich enough to own one... but.... at the time I felt it was a good investment, 2.5 solid seasons later it hasnt failed yet... it's been dropped and soaked in ways that used to render my 704 useless until cleaned... I just dust off and keep fishing.... maybe I could get away with a nautil or a greased Penn, but I have confidence in my reel, which is very important to me...

Also, stop giving Eben plugs... give em to me instead I just started my first semester of Piling it Higher and Deeper... :smash: WTF am I still doing in schoool, I'm looking at freshmen that are too young looking to even be cute (not all of them mind you:D )

Oh well

E.. I'll bout 9-930, if still out call my cell...

You are too a yuppie...

Now I suppose I will swim WITH the fishes when we fish

I have a love hate relationship with Van Staal. There is no equal when it comes to spinning reels. What I don't like is the fact that owning one is more like leasing one, considering if you don't pay the yearly service fee, you void your warranty. I don't fish very hard, but through routine use, I've developed routine problems and if I didn't pay that yearly service fee, I would be up the proverbial creek.

Your the cheapest sob I know. if those reels where 70 bucks You would have 50 of them just like Your K mart 1$ lures You Buy.
Go lay down

I'm a real strong believer in using the right tools for the right job.

Unless you've ever had to fish a reel under the harsh immersive conditions that make the Van Staal reels SHINE, you'll never appreciate the features that many have been willing to pay extra $$$ for. Fish on a rockpile? VS. Going wetsuiting on sand or rocks? VS. Are you a born klutz and drop your reels in the suds from time to time? VS. Do you not want to bother maintaining your reels yourself during the year? VS.

As far as the $100+ price increase goes, it's my understanding that much of this is going into the pockets of retailers, which is fine as far as I'm concerned. The low gross margin has been one of the impediments to dealers stocking the product.

Re: Re: Penn reels
 

I wouldn't do it like that u'll end up wit too much oil on ur drag washers an u'll never get em tight.some will spray a shot of wd-40 on them which is lighter an mostly evaporates with time.I like the way i do it just a drop of oil work it into the fiber disks an wipe off good with a paper towel.If u own a vs or not u have to maintain ur drags especially when u get it wet.if not ur just askin for trouble In my truck I always have extra washers and the very important C clip. an parts like a handle an stuff like that in case something happens u gotta be prepared I also have a pretty good selection of rod tips an glue. Saved the day for myself an a few of my buds more than a few times.I'm a clutz i constantly fall an break stuff. I used to be a pretty good athlete I wonder what happened to that guy..

yes that sounds right about the wd-40...
on a side note, i snuck out and fished for 2 hours at dusk today... on one of my casts the bail wire snapd. this left me with one piece of the bail just dangling in the breeze:smash: i guess its time to order part 69... the old bail-less conversion kit, or get some sort of reel that has no bail:hihi:

:smash: :wall: :whackin: :fishslap: :yak5:

:rolleyes:

Hey Frank Jr, I mean BASSMASTER! iT'S Wal-Mart not K-Mart and they cost two and three dollars respectively not one dollar get the facts straight. And if you think they suck why did you Ho me at Nauset for one the other night? And who caught fish all night at the Race on the same one you ho'd from me last fall why you were picking your nose going fishless right aside of me? YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

I still think VS Reels are a hyped out rip off. So there ! Put that in yer pipe and smoke it!:D :laughs: :laughs: :laughs:

Paul...
Yeah.. I'm a yuppie all right...
Watch that step... :D
It's a doozie...

if you need one for the weekend, i can bring one down for you. i have a couple laying around somewhere.

Eben:
I don't own a 704 that has a bail. I think the conversion kit is $5. Well worth the money

I nominate Uncle Crafty's post as best post in this thread. Complete with Silver Van Staal helmets and Van Staal pointy sticks. :D :laughs:

This is America, fish whatever reel you like. Drive whatever car you want. And you can do your thing whenever or wherever you like. Just please remember to pick up your trash. :)

Ed

I often fish a Calcutta 400 - one of the pricier conventionals but not in the same league pricewise as a TE or a VS for spinning. IF I could afford one I would probably get a VS for serious spinning. UNtil then, probably sometime around 2019, I'll be sticking with my sub $200 reels and for spinning, I might trick out a few 706 Penns (I have some ideas in mind :hihi: ).

BUT we all have our spending "things". We all probably spend more on fishing stuff than we really need and we all complain we still don't have enough. I do know some sharpies that were fishing VS since they first camw out and they swore by them then and they swear by them now. And status has nothing to do with it. Being able to get consistently dunked and banged around with lots of drag screamers in between is why they like them.

Anyone want to get into the 706ZX Reconditioning Biz :D ??

Oh yeh, Hey Flap - I guess most people don't use conventionals up your way (at least levelwind ones) because getting sand in the worm, etc. You can also fish lighter lines and use smaller reels. The sharpies getting away with 5500SS reals and the like up there could be undergunned down in RI/Block/LI. Structure (read obstacles) is different and IMO requires an upgrade in gear. Tuned up 6500 Abus is really the bottom on conventional gear and it goes up with the occasional squidder, Abu 7000s, Calcuttas, 965/975 and on the spinners, 704/6, 6500SS is usually the baseline.

YES!!! Talk to me baby, I'm thinking of starting a reel repair shop, might as well fix tackle.

No John, we use 'em. Lately though the mid priced spinning reels have been of such good quality and rugged enough to handle most situations and plug sizes that a conventional reel and rod has taken a back seat. As a matter of fact on my way home today I am stopping at a local shop to pick up a new Cabo conventional with level wind to replace the old Quantum IR420CX for which I cannot get parts for (Specifically the handle assm.) I gave me a good nine years though but I beat the living crap outa it.:D

Newell
 

i don't see any metion of newells. Now THERE are some conventional reels. Gotta know how to cast a conventional but they will stop a Bus

Newells rock...
but I prefer my squidder :smash:

Paul, box is mt

Hmmmm, how much you want for my 420 Iron? That was actually a very nice, no hassle real - other than ZERO parts availability... I gave up after a couple weeks calling shops for a pawl cap.



Fishpart - we'll talk :D

Anybody look:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: at the Daiwa Saltiga's yet?

I have two and love them so far.................:happy: :happy: :happy: they are actually less (if you know where to look) than the new VS reels.