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fishweewee 01-26-2005 05:28 PM

i think tax attorneys who relocate to RI outta be strung up by their Penn Int'ls. :hihi:

Skip N 01-26-2005 11:47 PM

Bronko well said:)

MakoMike 01-27-2005 07:50 AM

WW,
Wattsa matter, jealous? :smash:

spence 01-27-2005 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bronko
We have to be vigilant. If that means that certain groups of people receive a lesser expectation of privacy so be it.
A very, very, very dangerous statement.

When you check in for a flight, do they ask you what your religion is? How many nationalities do you think would have a higher potential for spawning terrorists? 50? 100?

Can you personally tell the difference between a Pakastani and a Sikh?

The burden to determine if someone's rights should be lessened should always be their behavior, not race or religion.

Freaking out over a group of Arab men on the plane may be perfectly natural after 9/11, but it's still a racist behavior that needs to be checked. Otherwise it can lead to very bad things.

-spence

Bronko 01-27-2005 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spence
A very, very, very dangerous statement.

When you check in for a flight, do they ask you what your religion is? How many nationalities do you think would have a higher potential for spawning terrorists? 50? 100?

Can you personally tell the difference between a Pakastani and a Sikh?

The burden to determine if someone's rights should be lessened should always be their behavior, not race or religion.

Freaking out over a group of Arab men on the plane may be perfectly natural after 9/11, but it's still a racist behavior that needs to be checked. Otherwise it can lead to very bad things.

-spence

I knew eventually I'd see the ACLU in you Spence.;) Tough subject all around. Just posting my two cents.

The Dad Fisherman 01-27-2005 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spence
The burden to determine if someone's rights should be lessened should always be their behavior, not race or religion.
-spence

Thats exactly how it should be looked at.

Quote:

Originally posted by Bronko
ex..... 4 arabic men between the age of 18-40 board a 9 am flight with no carry-on luggage.
In that statement there the determining factor why they should be questioned shouldn't be because they are 4 Arabic men.....it should be that they are 4 men boarding a cross-country flight w/ NO luggage.

Everybody is going to give people of middle-eastern descent a second look because of 911, thats just human nature. And a second look isn't the same as singling someone out of a crowd,stopping them and searching them because of it.

The key is to try and not make it an acceptable practice. Once we say its OK, as a society, to look at this guy w/ suspicion because of the color of his skin then thats a real problem.

RIROCKHOUND 01-27-2005 08:50 AM

Wow... this thread has taken on a life of it's own... good thread and I'm glad it has stayed apolitical, as it is a non-political issue IMHO

I think everyone has expressed their views well, and whether you argree with me or not you all make valid points. As stated before I AM guilty of looking twice and thinking bad thoughts, less now than right after 9/11, but with all of the different nationalities featured as suspects recently, valid threats or not, we should be looking at actions not color, as mentioned earlier...

Anytime you define someones intent based on color or religion, it is a dangerous precident...

likwid 01-27-2005 09:17 AM

How quickly we forget and latch onto one group with others around and passed such as:

David Koresh
Embassy bombings all over the world
Terry Nichols & Timothy McVeigh
Heaven's Gate
Klu Klux Klan
Michigan Militia (although im sure they're half of your heros)
Neo Nazis
The WHITE AMERICAN who was caught by the CIA in Afghanistan supporting Al Qaeda.
Earth Liberation Front (The people who burn stuff.)

(I'm sure if I thought about it more I could list probably 50 more groups around this country which would be considered 'terrorist' groups.)

All of these groups and people are considered "extremists"
Half of which do so for religious reasons or use religious reasoning.
Most of them are white.
Most have commited what would be considered now "terrorist acts".


And as far as profiling at airports....
Who gives a damn?
You don't know what they're looking for, they WON'T tell you what they're looking for and for good reason.

Half of the replies in this thread are bigoted and are the EXACT reason half the world hates the US right now (other than foreign policy).
They're not jealous
They don't wish they were like us.
They just think we're a bunch of idiots for letting what is going on today continue.


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