Could you also let me know how many yards of 65 whiplash you fit on that baby? :)
Thanks

I was reading the specs on sites also and saw that the new models of the reels said that the 5000 weighed the same as the 4000 = 20.3 oz so That is why I thought of getting a 5000 since it would hold the required amount of line I like to have on. I wonder now if it's a typo.

Pretty sure the 5000 weighs 29.x ounces...

-spence

The 4500 weighs .2 ounces less than the 4000 only because of the depth of the spools. The spool on the 4000 holds less line than the 4500 so the decreased depth of the spool causes the slight increase in weight, I guess due to a little more aluminum used in the 4000 spool. I have both reels -- the reels are the EXACT same except only for the spools. Actually, only the spools have the numbers 4000/4500 written on them so the 2 reels are identical. I've weighed my reels and the .2 ounce difference is about accurate.

This same slight weight difference caused by spool depth is also in the Shimano Stella 6000 (23.6 oz.) and 8000 reels (22.8 oz.); the Sustain 6000/8000 reels; etc.

Also, the Saltiga 5000 does weigh 29.1 or so ounces, not 20.1 or so. The websites that list it as 20 ounces are mistaken. The 5000 is the same reel as the 6000 with a smaller spool.

Joe--are the line capacities for the 4500 and 5000 listed on those sites accurate? If so, would I be correct in assuming that the 4500 holds as much line as the 5000 at a weight savings of more than half a pound?

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Ben :wall:

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I think I fit something like 270 yards of 50lb powerpro with 25yards of 20lb backing on my 4500.

Mike How do you like that reel in the sand? can it take it?

That capacity may work for me.
I would just need a spare spool, I can imagine how much they cost :vamp:

What the hell is sand? We dont have sand over here.

I used it 50 percent of the fall last year and never had an issue.

It's worth the money, but then again I dont do anything but fish. I can see a guy having multiple hobbies finding it expensive. As you know, good tools are not cheap.

Spare Spools - $140 bucks. http://www.japantackle.com/Daiwa_ree...iga_z_spin.htm

I just want a colored one like these. Don't ask why, I just need it.

http://www.plat.co.jp/english/daiwa/ize/saltiga4500.htm

Mike-

What Tattoo said is about accurate. I think last year I fit almost an entire 300 yard spool of 50 pound Power Pro with 17 pound mono backing. This year I'm using less Power Pro just because it's cheaper and I'll never get into the last 100 yards of the braid anyway.

The 5000 definitely holds more line than the 4500 and is a much bigger reel, but if you're gonna buy a 5000 why not just get the 6000 -- same reel and more capacity.

By the way, the Daiwa website is incorrect when it has the 4500 and 5000 as the same reels.

Joe

For the curious . . . a personalized blinged out 4500 is $825 :wall:


Just build another cabinet - Ya know ya want one Slip :D

Yeah but if you shop around you can get an un-blinged out 4500 for about $200-$250 less. Works just as good.

flaptail im going to rip your head off and %$%$%$%$ down your throat

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:huh: :beat:

:bshake: :sleeps: :smokin:

So a 5000 goes 795 an a spare gt spool goes 146 for total of 941 plus shipping.I think I'm gonna go back to usin a clorox bottle an a handline.

Saltiga 6000 GT weight
 

The weight on my Saltiga 6000 GT fully spooled with 65 # whiplash and 15 # mono backing is 30.4 ounces. I didn't measure the amount of line but I would estimate at least 250 + yards. I'm going to do some test casting so thats the most important result to me. Hopefully I can hit the 130 yard mark with a 5 oz jig. Need to hit that seam out in the middle of that rip. :btu:

The thing with Van Staal is that THEY hate the service plan too.

I've been to the old Hopedale facility during reel repair season, and it's not pretty. There were hundreds and hundreds of bins on racks with completely dissassembled reels in them and a huge (5ft tall, maybe higher) pile of un-opened cardboard boxes with MORE reels back for service in them. Also, when they tell you they completely disassemble them they're not BS'ing you.

You can take apart a VS quickly, but to thoroughly clean, inspect the parts, reassemble it, and then box and ship the reel takes time. I'm not saying 6+ week turnaround is ok, just that there is a reason.

Also, (not counting 2 specific instances) add me to the list of people who have never actually seen a broken VS. One time a customer came in with a reel he ran over with his truck, and the other was with the Ironman's now 11+ year old VS100. A couple years ago he decided to finally service it so he sent us out to kill the reel on some BFT that showed up off Newport before we sent it back. I tried, and the reel sounded like death when I was done with it. The drag was fried; it had the old Penn drag washers back then. But it still turned and caught fish, even with broken parts inside (a bearing had failed).

I just thought of one more broken VS, Tattoo got pummelled by a wave and totally f'd up the handle on his, but we swapped in a replacement and it was fine. Seeing a reel's handle get that bent and having the rest of the reel suffer no damage from the impact was pretty impressive.

Lastly, VS is aware that people would like to service their own reels. Not only that but they would LOVE to unload that task to consumers since it costs them time and money. So it's possible (maybe even likely) that will happen at some point. The real issue right now is that if you put a VS back together wrong (so I've been told) you need a Dremel tool to get back into it.

Something to consider-

the more reels they sell, the longer its going to take for your reel to be serviced until they either hire more staff, or sub-out servicing.

next year my reel will go back before X-mas.

Another example of people being caught in the hype and spending way too much money for something that isn't worth the cost. At least I can say I told you so and have not swayed with the hype. :rocketem: VanStal sucks. :uhuh:

Well Flap, you know what they say about opinions :)


You got the right idea Eben.

I have a used one and plan to service it myself.

u should know u would wright anything for a free plug