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fishaholic18 08-28-2005 10:49 AM

Awsome, talk about giving up spots!

Zeno 08-28-2005 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bluefishercat
Zeno, interesting article, I can see that being a great plug over rocky spots. I was wondering if one of the other plugs you tried when they were banging them on poppers was a bottle plug.

No
Reason for that ,when I use bottles is usually because of rough surf.I would not throw poppers under those conditions.Then again ,I seen a guy nail a 48lb brute on the rock next to me at 2 am on a tin with a tube of all things,few weeks ago.Talking about an eye opening experience :uhoh:

bassmaster 08-28-2005 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeno
No
Reason for that ,when I use bottles is usually because of rough surf.I would not throw poppers under those conditions.Then again ,I seen a guy nail a 48lb brute on the rock next to me at 2 am on a tin with a tube of all things,few weeks ago.Talking about an eye opening experience :uhoh:

was the tail green?
I have taken very large bass on castmasters at night.
Have You ever tossed a wy popper?
reason I ask is it swims real nice
Dave

Zeno 08-28-2005 05:08 PM

Not sure what color.It was 2 am :uhoh: The reason this was freaky is because it was in the rocks and not on the sand.That particular night I managed some 20 pound class fish on darters but they were ?bumping" the plugs ,not attacking.Almost all fish were snagged in the head ,as if they were hitting with their mouth closed..Kind of saying "we're here but you cant catch us".
I guess nobody told them about sharpness on VMC's ;)

Zeno 08-28-2005 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bassmaster
Have You ever tossed a wy popper?
reason I ask is it swims real nice
Dave

what's a "wy" popper ?

bassmaster 08-28-2005 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeno
what's a "wy" popper ?

a plug made by a guy named Jack I forgot if his name is french , but he made plugs top fish M in li
OJ made me some a while back and I always have a blue and silver in my bag.
This Guy fished and made plugs to do what he wanted them to do in order to get bass.
basicly a sinking popper will do the same, but his plugs swim real nice when U need a swimmer with out swapping out.
figure You know why the silver and blue is the color i keep with me

Zeno 08-28-2005 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bassmaster
a plug made by a guy named Jack I forgot if his name is french , but he made plugs top fish M in li
OJ made me some a while back and I always have a blue and silver in my bag.
This Guy fished and made plugs to do what he wanted them to do in order to get bass.
basicly a sinking popper will do the same, but his plugs swim real nice when U need a swimmer with out swapping out.
figure You know why the silver and blue is the color i keep with me


Jach Frech
One of the best surfacters on li in old days.Member of my club and a hell of a plug builder.
Here is an article on his darter from my club website
http://highhillstriperclub.com/articles_darters.htm

bassmaster 08-28-2005 08:22 PM

thanks for info I have a binder with all his articles on making plugs.
Zeno, I love tweaking my plugs on fish.
I dont care how ruff a plug is, if it is weighted right anf fishes well it will put out.
color does play a big part though
when I lived in falmouth i use to make poppers for bass and blues, it was way better than paying 7 dollars for a gibbs lure.
I mostly bought gibbs and use to go to the shop in yarmouth and get alot off 1 offs and also I liked a black capt andy, it had a wide lip like bob hans had on his 6'" dannys. the plug is black and I got it at red top and remeber tuning it to catch in falmouth and along the islands.
Jim from eastmans use to get bob hans plugs and I use to buy all the black blue and white dannys i could along with all the solid colors. they swam good with minimal tuning and complimented my gibbs and a few plastic atoms along with some l coopers.
I did real well with them along the islands when I was'nt slapping eels in the rocks or bouncin bottom.
May and june was real good.
In may the bass would be down in the am, so at sun up live herring in the hole put me on alot of 30 and mid 40lb bass.
I would dump the boat and then go back out and work my spots as the bass would be in the rocks on the migrating tide.
any way the bob hans would last alittle while they were not all that hot as far as holding up.
I would pick through and find the ceadar ones, think this guy used all kinds of wood.
in one of the issues of otw a plug i gave harry coons was on the cover ,it was a beat to hell jointed bob hans.
those jointed plug where great in slower water and I still have a couple i think in gibbs, I think one is squid .
I had totes of gibbs but i sold them for like five bucks each i think. whoops.
I was at a place near my house maybe 14 years ago and there was a older Guy and he made a green needle type thing the nose wase about 3/4" and the rest of the body was dowel size.
I had a red and yellow popper I made and we both talked about wood and saving a few dollars.
He would pop his lure and I would cast over Him to draw the fish in, we got a few bass maybe 15 lbs just under the limet to take 1 home.
I remeber seeing him and forgot that guys name But I would invite him out to my rocj and share My herring with him.
I know I have a pic of him we both had some large fish in may..
He wouldnt come on my grady though..
need to talk to You about colors if You could pm Me

eelman 08-28-2005 08:25 PM

Bob hahn plugs were great, that guy new how to make a plug!

Flaptail 08-29-2005 05:40 AM

There is some "mis-identification" of plugs in my little piece. I have to apologize for that. The guys at the mag work hard on each issue but sometimes things slip up so the needle listed as a Hab's is actually a Gag's and the Danny listed as a Gibb's is really a Beachmaster and the Blurple swimmer listed as a Beachmaster Danny is obviously not a danny. I had taken pictures and went up to office to identify them but doodoo happens so my apologies to Johnny Hab's and Bobby at Beachmaster. Maybe if my photo techniques get better they will use my pics but I really suck with a camera. :uhuh:

bassmaster 08-29-2005 11:34 AM

no worrys flapnuts
hey when i get my boat Your the 1st person Im going to throw off it :ss:

Nebe 08-29-2005 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Flaptail
There is some "mis-identification" of plugs in my little piece. I have to apologize for that. The guys at the mag work hard on each issue but sometimes things slip up so the needle listed as a Hab's is actually a Gag's and the Danny listed as a Gibb's is really a Beachmaster and the Blurple swimmer listed as a Beachmaster Danny is obviously not a danny. I had taken pictures and went up to office to identify them but doodoo happens so my apologies to Johnny Hab's and Bobby at Beachmaster. Maybe if my photo techniques get better they will use my pics but I really suck with a camera. :uhuh:

and that needle was a NIB needle :D

Tagger 08-29-2005 07:23 PM

I'm saving this issue.. Flaps the nuts,, Z is pissa.. Sluggo thing was great ..

Flaptail 08-29-2005 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe
and that needle was a NIB needle :D

Yeah it was. Turned by him and sealed and sebnt to me where I primed, painted, coated and rigged it. And I did identify it as that but what you see is what you get I guess, sorry Tony it's your plug and I told them that was how it was made.

NEBE HAS A SHARP EYE!

Pete F. 08-29-2005 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Flaptail
Yeah it was. Turned by him and sealed and sebnt to me where I primed, painted, coated and rigged it. And I did identify it as that but what you see is what you get I guess, sorry Tony it's your plug and I told them that was how it was made.

NEBE HAS A SHARP EYE!

When I saw those plugs I thought they must have used their own for photos cuz when I looked closely I saw .................................................. .................................................. .........split rings. :uhoh:
and I thought you were a member of the ringless faction.

bassmaster 08-29-2005 10:00 PM

Flap You are all washed up, You dont fish the sant You woman
that needle looked like one of mine :nopain:

Flaptail 08-30-2005 05:15 AM

The sand is passe' mon ami, right now I have gone TU-NUTZ! Something about a 40 bluefin crashing a daisy on 30 lb. gear that really gets one's blood going. We went in-shore and jigged a few bass up to 37 pounds and they fought like dish-rags compared to the tuna. :bshake:

Joe 08-30-2005 06:43 AM

Better writing opportunities for boat fishing - there's a lot more mags.
Flap, you ever consider taking a photo course at the local community college or at Ritz? Photography is a lot easier than it used to be. 40 Tuna crashing stand up gear sounds like a lot of missed photo opps.

Flaptail 08-30-2005 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe
Better writing opportunities for boat fishing - there's a lot more mags.
Flap, you ever consider taking a photo course at the local community college or at Ritz? Photography is a lot easier than it used to be. 40 Tuna crashing stand up gear sounds like a lot of missed photo opps.

Capital idea Joe, I really really need some instruction. If you could have seen the fish 1st thing Sat am as it came out of the water. I can still see it clearly, all it's fins were straight out and it's mouth wide open as it hovered for a second a foot out of the water coming up directly behind the stinger squid on the rig. Fabulous!

John E 08-30-2005 08:15 AM

Zeno,

WY = Willie Young. You may have heard of him. ;-)

bassmaster 08-30-2005 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Flaptail
The sand is passe' mon ami, right now I have gone TU-NUTZ! Something about a 40 bluefin crashing a daisy on 30 lb. gear that really gets one's blood going. We went in-shore and jigged a few bass up to 37 pounds and they fought like dish-rags compared to the tuna. :bshake:

im going tonight and tomorrow,
c,mon join the winning team, if not for me for You fan club :rotf3:

NIB 08-30-2005 01:29 PM

Why do all u nordern guys call the AJ's Danny's?

Zeno 08-30-2005 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by John E
Zeno,

WY = Willie Young. You may have heard of him. ;-)

Ohhh, now I got it.(I am a bit sloooow if you haven't noticed yet :uhoh: ).
He is one of if not the nicest man I ever had a pleasure of knowing.A hell of a surfcaster too :tm:

Pete F. 08-30-2005 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NIB
Why do all u nordern guys call the AJ's Danny's?

I was always told Danny Pichney or Pichey or Pinchey (Long Island plugmaker) invented them.

Slipknot 08-30-2005 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NIB
Why do all u nordern guys call the AJ's Danny's?

like flap said, it was a mistake.

"40 Tuna crashing stand up gear sounds like a lot of missed photo opps."

Joe, he means 40 pounds, not forty tunas.

NIB 08-30-2005 09:51 PM

They mentioned it in a few different articles.Any how the basic info was a good read.i bought one in RI.I still havent recieved my issue in the mail yet.
Had a decent fish on a Beachmaster AJ.but he came undun.

John E 09-06-2005 10:58 AM

Z,

Met him a few times at our club meetings. He's a great guy and a load of info. :kewl:


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