Yup; filled up Yesterday; now big descions is to fish local or drive....
After labor day hopefully we'll see a drop in price....

:hidin: :ss:

Heard on the radio that a station in Bklyn NY just broke the $4 / gal mark today.
On another board I saw a post that the UK is experiencing prices in the $7-8 range per gal, if you convert lbs sterling to us dollars.This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
Im thinking of buying a horse and a years supply of Hay.

Straw is cheaper :rotf3:

-spence

Was shocked to pay 2.99 at the pump in NJ this morning and noticed Super at 3.19. Hasn't been that bad here since I can remember. I'm going to start charging my kids when they want a ride somewhere, also giving friends a ride..."Dad, can you give Sabrina, Katrina, and a ride home?" "Sure thing. A dollar for the first half mile and fifty cents a mile after that. No IOU's but if your mother's hot I'll consider her in trade. Now pay up or get out my meter's running."

two oil pipelines
 

are shut down....just because of a lack of electricity....the military and the national guard are on there way and hopefully that scenario will soon be rectified.

Even if we refined Alaskan crude here it would barely effect anything at the pump. A couple cents in a best case scenario, which of course doesn't really matter right now. And you wouldn't see that benefit for at least a decade.

10 billion barrels of oil (best case scenario for Alaska, it could easily be less) isn't much to get excited about since we use 7 billion barrels a year.

what i really wnat to know is what went down in those 'top secret' energy meetings at the whitehouse just before the iraq war went down...

everyone remember those????? :hs:

i dont understand why people love these crooks so much. :huh:

the whole oil thing is a big rip off and i agree the administartion is taking care of 'oilmen" .


the hydrogen fuel thing is another issue. i wouldn't condemn the technology till you really understand it. I have no idea about how the dirty politics is coming into play but overall , someday , we will be burning hydrogen for fuel , its just a matter of time. the entire universe burns hydrgen (fuses it) for energy , we eventually will too. Its a great way to store energy from peak production times to. Lets say you have a wind mill that can generate all you need in the daytime. at night you have excess capacity. right now you have to store the energy in batteries. You could use the energy generation capability off peak to electrolize water and store the hydrogen and oxygen for burning when you need it. Anyway , you get the idea.

I drive a blazer and luckily get 18 to 20 MPG. Not great but i am glad i don't have a 10 MPG huge truck right now!.

the key to short term success is in conservation. the big car companies could forsee the death of the huge vehicles as passenger vehicles , that's why you can buy them so cheap now. remember that $10K you saved on the truck , well you will pay that over the next couple of years in fuel. Too bad , i always wanted to own a suburban for cruising the beaches. Like you own traveling motel! :)

has nothing to do with love of crooks. i hate aspects of the adminstration too. I just do not blame all of our woes on them. Most of the problems we have including energy and ecological issues didn't start a few years ago - they have always been there. And in typical US fashion nothing is done until there is a crisis.

I still would rather have the 'crooks' in the white house. I would rather pay $5 at the pump (consumption - something I control). than the alternative, turning over national security to the UN and a %$%$%$%$ load more social programs taking money from my check each pay period.

where is the
 

backwards engineered ALIEN technology when you need it. :)

Even hemp seed can make a vegetable based diesel fuel...
and there are cars driving around this "whole country" on free dirty
frying oil from restaurants... and what bugs the hell out of me
is all of the fantastic INVENTIONS of new technology carbuerators
that gave you incredible M.P.G. that have been purchased
(patent rights included) by the oil conglomeration that have been
buried away never to be heard of AGAIN.

it's a war about OIL and energy thats for sure.

and shouldn't school buses be one of the first vehicles to utilize
the hybrid engine technology for cleaner take offs from a dead stop
rather than only smaller toyota's...
anyone who's ever been behind a school bus
and has been fumigated with unburnt diesel oil fumes would agree.
the whole friggan roof of a bus could have interchangable solar panels
removable in the winter time because of snow .

we have the TECHNOLOGY.... but it's not being used.
it's either been made illegal...squelched...disposed of
or buried because of MONEY -> it's time for radical change.

now its 3.00 a gallon

the problem has been there, but the bush admin. is amplifying the causes for oil price increases.... ie global conflict. i bet your one of those who thought IRAQ was going to attack us somehow and posed a threat :hs:

:eek: $3.50 in Woods Hole for 87 octane! I just came back with an empty tank. It's higher down hear than other places on Cape, but $3.50???? :eek:

Funny John Kerry and the other corrupt liberal clinton both publicly stated that they believe there was a clear and present danger.

so did Kerry and clinton and the rest of congress (both left and right) conspire with GW's admin and international (Tony Blair) parties to fake a clear and present danger to fight for oil? Don't think so.

I do agree that is why were are still there and think we should have pulled out long ago. I don't care if we wiped out the entire population of Iraq if it meant that one US soldier did not end up with a hang-nail. I say nuke-it, pave-it and take the oil.

$4 very soon..
http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/31/news...ices/index.htm


IMO the price of fuel has more to do the the developement of china and their new demand (which it huge) then anything bush or clinton did or didn't do. It is easy to blame this on either but it is neither ones fault.
I like the price in caracus.

The past and present presidents continue to support a communist country either directly or indirectly.
"Made in China"

Ok Now I sound like a baby but WTF.
Filled up last night @266. This am same station 288. After work went by the same station 308.
How can this be, it's "old" Gas , It should take weeks before it go's up not 24 hrs.

And Sandman, I can't wait to see what I will be paying for gas over 30 days on the island for the derby.

VB

:whackin: :wall: :rocketem:

raven is 100% correct :)

VB

$4.99 per gallon
 

in Atlanta georgia right NOW!

because of those two disfunctional oil pipelines.

but the sickest and ugliest thing i heard today was this.

a nurse who stepped outside for a breath of fresh air

because the hospital she's working in (trying to save patients)
had zero ventilation...without power....

was robbed outside at gunpoint by some fokin scumbags.

that is absolutely OUTRAGIOUS. no mercy shoot to kill

all armed looters .PERIOD , BAM :rocketem:

Almost 75% of that U.K. price is the huge taxes they put on it.

and we wonder why hardly any other countries want to help us after this disaster :hs:

Bush created hurricane Katrina to pump up his profits.Katrina wasn't formed from a tropical wave that came off of Africa and encountered 87 degree Gulf waters to become a major hurricane...it was Bush trying to make money.

That's what some of you come across as sounding like.

Heck there's a guy in the Old Pharts board asking "Where's Oswald when you need him".

You gotta be freakin kidding me!

My future sister in-law and husband and two kids are from Slidell LA.Where's that you might ask?Who knows.....its all gone.

Quit yer whining and stop thinking about yourselves.Its about them and the those in the same situation as them.

WOW ,,,on cnn they just said in Atlanta Gas it up to 5.88 per Gal.
We are in trouble

just be glad there is gas to buy.

I dont like it anymore than anyone else but the fact of the matter is it COULD be worse......

sucks to be them. it just sucks to see the oil companies profiting from a natural disaster where real people are suffering.... and yes, all the blokes in teh whitehouse are making $$ off this rise in oil prices like it or not. did they cause this??? no.

Not saying "woe is us" Basswipe...just talking about the rising cost of gas. Go to the other thread about the hurricane if that is what you want to talk about!

$2.61 yesterday morning.....$2.89 this morning! :eek:

2.51 tuesday,3.50 today

can't help but feeling used and abused. :uhuh:

I haven't looked at the street pump in about 2 weeks. Then it was 3.25 and my brother gagged at that price then.

There is no crude supply problem that I see, it is just that we need more refinerys and 10% of them were just shut down in the wake of that storm. OK that happend yesterday. Why the price hike today? I think they are jumping the gun a little.


Also, I think folks in the fuel business will use anything as an excuse for a price hike. Do you see lines at the pump? Do you see any stations that don't have fuel? This is a fabricated hike. Yes Europe has high fuel costs but most of that is taxes...in our case it is more like greed. I can tell you the gas that was in the station yesterday is the SAME as the gas that is in there today...but it suddenly cost more.

This thread was started after Katrina struck.And of course a certain somebody brought politics into it.The rising cost of gas directly or indirectly is a result of the storm.

And it is a "woe is us" thread.Spend in a minute in THEIR shoes and all of a sudden the rising price of gas is meaningless.

Feel bad for the folks down south...I do...but if this has to be a "woe is me" thread then so be it! Just went out to "top off" the tanks in my 3 vehicles.....as I arrive at the pump the price is changing to $3.10 from $2.89.....that is a .49 cent jump in 24 hours.....cost me $150.00 to fill em' up! Guy at the station says it is going up another 20 cents in the morning for sure! :rocketem:

Basswipe....I do hope your family is ok down there....it is a terrible, horrible thing to be sure and my heart does go out to all down there and their families.....don't for a second think I am not sympathetic and uncaring. I can't begin to fathom what those folks are dealing with at this moment. :(

Sandman...one station I went to had nothing left but 93 octane.....guy at station said 3 folks filled their vehicles and left without paying. Its insanity out there right now! :rocketem:

Time to get locking gas caps...

Bigfish,

I try not to come off as sounding like I don't understand that rising gas prices suck but when 8 and 10 year old boys are asking their dad when can they can go home to feed their pet lizard and gerbils the price of gas seems so trivial.Their pets are dead.They may not even have a home.I just don't care about gas.

I think we are on the same page BW.....I was just chiming in about the rising cost of fuel is all. I am human you know. :)

I guess I'm not thinking about gas as much as others as my truck has been completely dead for awhile.I've been looking at new trucks but maybe its time to get one of those cars that says "I'm Electric" on the back!

Yup me too! IM glad I got a new pig I love it but IM getting absolutly no love at the pump:sick:
IM going to pick my nights a lil more selectivly.

All those new Dodge trucks/cars with Hemi's... Yeah , it's got a Hemi :wall: :bc: