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macojoe 03-06-2006 06:12 PM

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What if you have a commercial license and the guest has helped you catch for the day.Is that payment enough?
Yep

And they get the pick of fish to go home also!! Not just the small stuff eaither, they can have what ever they want.

I never split the money as the guys I go with don't have boats, and they are just happy to be out there and bring home fish!!
I have put money in there cars just to have iot given back to me the next time I see them.

I fish with some great friends!

I had a old friend that has past away and we would split back then, after the gas and all was said and done, we would split 3 ways, 1 for him, one for me, and one for the boat for repairs and stuff that goes with out saying.

Sea Dangles 03-06-2006 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by quick decision
I think it depends who it is a what the situation is. I like to have the guests help out with gas if we are going to make out run outside to do some cod fishing. If we are going to bop around the harbor money wont be turned down but isnt expected. I have no problem telling people up front what the deal is.

"If you can't afford it,don't buy it" What does that statement mean. I make a lot of sacerfices so I can have a boat. So mabey I dont go out to eat everyday, I bring a lunch. Mabey I drive a 2001 Trailblazer instead of a 2006. I dont go to bars and drink, do drugs, gamble. I choose to own a boat. That is a idiotic stupid thing to say.

I'll tell you in plain English.Don't buy a boat expecting other people to pick up your expenses.Very simple.

Sea Dangles 03-06-2006 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Goose
WTH are you talking about, I think your misunderstanding my point but then again how could you? God bless you if you can afford to host time after time....good for you, I'ld do it to if I could. I mentioned moneys for 1 outing, not a short trip, not a one time thing.

IMO, the most important thing anyone on this site has is his or her own reputation. I think sayin "if you can't afford it, don't buy it" is a low blow. Furtunantly enough I can afford it but I'm tired of getting walked on. Somebody once told me "you take the shirt off your back your gonna be cold". This is one of the reasons I fish alone and my boat is a bay boat. Don't get it confused with I'm not a people person, there isn't a guy I won't fish with here or take out for that matter.
I "know" plug builders and rod builders aren't given the credit they deserve for the same reasons I mentioned, don't think boaters don't feel the same. Your accussing the victom?

Goose,don't misunderstand me,if you have worked it out beforehand that fuel will be split then so be it.No low blow was intended and I aploogize if I offended you.My point was that no one should lose friends over miscommunication.After all it's money.Accept it if it's offered of course ,but if someone shows up with bait, ice,beer, tackle etc. for a close trip they are usually pulling their weight.That being said you are welcome to paddle with me anytime:rotf3:

macojoe 03-06-2006 07:37 PM

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I'll tell you in plain English.Don't buy a boat expecting other people to pick up your expenses.Very simple.
I don't expect for them to pick up the expenses, But I no going to have them leaching for free eaither.

relentless 03-06-2006 08:10 PM

Gee,

I have taken many guests on my boat who are well aware of what it costs to go out and very few if any have ever opened their wallet, Also be carefull asking for funds can constitute comensation and open the can of worms calle a "charter". If interurpeted that way, different licenses needed, don't forget the piss tests and additional requirements. Be carefull, is all I am saying, but then again gee look what I found and it's green.

Dave

Van 03-07-2006 09:28 AM

All my friends are poor. Luckily I'm a millionaire.......

NOT

But when they can they do chip in.
Like others said, I'm going out anyway so its gonna cost the same.

When I've gone on others boats, I always help out.
Sometimes I have to sneak the $$$ into their tackle bag when they are not looking.

But especially offshore trips (tuna). Its only right that can cost some major $$$$$.

striprman 03-07-2006 09:46 AM

I always give my brother at least half of what it cost to gas up or, I buy the bait (sometimes, that costs as much, if not more, than the gas), soda, food..whatever it takes for the "trip" and he buys the gas. If we are tube and wormin' I buy the worms, flukin' I buy the squid or chubs, scupin'=squid. Toggin' or flounders, a sack of chowder quohogs (works good for scup and black sea bass too) or out cod fishin' with bait. I always throw him something .

stiff tip 03-07-2006 02:38 PM

i tell my crew if u want to go fishin on the boat i split the expenses equelley.i got 25 gs in the boat an gear ,if it 100$$a day ,3ways try to charter a off shore rig fo that price ..my guys know .no doe no go ..its a cheap day out w/ no hassles...capt cupcake..

capesams 03-07-2006 05:25 PM

IF I invite someone to go [joy] fishing...the rides on me...they feed themselves......But my only rule is....NO BOOZE/beer on my boat and don't show up half in the bag or they'll be standing on the dock watching me sail away.

Clammer 03-07-2006 06:06 PM

C/S ===my rules to the tee /except i add to time limit /could be a hour could & has been 12 :walk:

Sea Dangles 03-07-2006 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by capesams
IF I invite someone to go [joy] fishing...the rides on me...they feed themselves......But my only rule is....NO BOOZE/beer on my boat and don't show up half in the bag or they'll be standing on the dock watching me sail away.

Why no booze?That sucks

nightfighter 03-07-2006 07:22 PM

Oh CS and Clammer, we're a tough crew ain't we! Can you see the three of us on the same boat back in the day???

capesams 03-07-2006 07:31 PM

your kidding me right?...try,,YOUR responsable for all persons on your boat.....insurance....

Sea Dangles 03-07-2006 09:41 PM

So just dubage?

macojoe 03-07-2006 09:46 PM

Same rule goes for my boat!
I let a guy on there the first year I was boating, he got so drunk the fun was gone!! He has never been back on the boat all these years cause I won't let him drink.
O well I don't miss him !

Clammer 03-07-2006 11:18 PM

Time & a place for everything //:hidin:

schoolie monster 03-08-2006 12:02 PM

Its different for me cause I'm in a small boat and gas is not as big an issue, unless we're trailering far.

I personally always offer $ when I'm a guest, never take it when I'm captain.

But if you're running a bigger boat, fuel is a big deal. Guests should always offer, or at least bring the food/bait or something. Plus, with my small boat, I'm not going real far either. Big boats may tend to run further maybe chasing tuna or something. Then its a really big deal. Hundreds of dollars.

Situations are different too.

If I took a buddy out alot during a season, and we're good friends, I think you could ask him to pitch in without feeling bad.

If you meet someone, say, on this website, maybe a group thing... I think the guest(s) should really be obligated to pitch in. The capt is being very generous.

But I've taken out spouses of my wife's co-workers who I don't know well... or our nanny's husband... I would never ask them, especially if its just a one time thing.

I stick it to my dad though... I make him buy all the gas/bait/tackle. Its the least he can do... hey, charters are worth 400-500 bucks and I put him on fish everytime he visits.

Yeah, I'm just kidding.

Raider Ronnie 03-08-2006 06:03 PM

I've worked on charters with guys drinking lots of times.
Moderation in drinking is ok, but when we have a bachelor party and the drinking gets out of hand, It's not fun, and can be dangerous !
A few years ago, I did a bachelor party of 3 boats.
The 6 guys that we had on our boat were drinking at 5:30 am, and most likely had been partying the night before.
5 of the guys were somewhat ok during the day,
But the 6th guy was so trashed, he was passed out cold by 11:00 am.
We had to tie him in a seat with dock lines, and huge boat fenders on each side of him so he wouldn't crack his head open !!!
Not my idea of a fun day !!!
Also kind of stupid when your spending $900.00 - $1100.00 for a day of fishing !!!


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