BINGO!!! 21 dirtbags arrested in a London airliner attack today. But i guess we shouldn't worry about terroism, because according to some, its all a scare tactic to make us scared. (Skip N)


Terrorism is a fear tactic...............Boo!

Even though we have geographic distance from all this crap I cannot believe that anyone does not have some fear.... our worlds operate in many ways through fear.

Yes, i'm hearing the terroists they arrested in the UK might have been UK citizens. So yes, who in thier right mind would'nt after this? You can honestly sit here and tell me that no muslim US citizen has ties to radical Islam? Of course some do. To think some dont is crazy.

Unlike you, i have the balls to say what most Americans are thinking. We know who fits the profile of the terroists, so lets give them an extra look at the airport. I dont get caught up in the PC bull%$%$%$%$. We know who they are, lets give them an extra look, Its damn worth it to prevent would could have happened in the UK.

Fair enough.

BTW, have you ever read the Declaration of Independence?

-spence

On 9/11 we saw the danger and pure evil of radical Islam, how could anyone say they don't have some fear? We know they want to hit us again, just look at the UK today, they are at it again.

Well, that fear was more than manipulated to get us into Iraq.

A little fear can be good as it brings caution. A lot of fear is bad as it clouds judgement. When you're afraid you don't think, you react.

For instance, a lot of fear of young Muslim men would lead someone like you to ignore the foundations of Liberty and strip someone of their civil rights because you are afraid.

That just doesn't seem right now does it?

As an aside, I'm not black or white on all profiling...but it's a slippery slope.

-spence

I'll buy most of this...

Frustration and anger make a nice soup to :as:

You forgot REVENGE!

-spence

I'm not saying it's not a slippery slope. But common sense needs to be used at times. I'm not saying round up all Middle eastern dudes and put 'em in a camp somewhere. Thats extreme. But, we know who fits the profile of a likely terroist, so a little extra checking at the airports and other sensative places makes sense to me. We can't let Mohamad Abdula walk right through the check point, and pull my 90 year old grandmother aside for a long frisking. Common sense is all im asking!

I hope the ACLU aren't reading my posts :hee:

As far as screening of young Muslim Men goes dont worry it happens regularly as it should. My youngest brother,twenty eight years old (of Italian Descent) who travels extensively and could easily pass as being of Arabic descent is resigned to the fact that he will be pulled out of line and subjected to extra screening every time without fail. He chooses to apply his basic common sense and understanding of the clear need rather than envoking the Declaration of Independence.

I don't think that's common sense, you're basically saying that all Muslim men are guilty until proven innocent.

Now a combination of behavioral risk factors might mean something, but that's a different story.

-spence

I think he understands he has nothing to hide and just sucks it up and doesnt go running for the ACLU to make a big stink. Deep down he might get pissed, but i'm sure he realizes its for the over all saftey of the airliners.

Heck i'm a 26 year old white guy and i've gotten pulled aside a few times. They even sent me through that machine that blows all that damn air on you! But i dont care, it takes all of a 2 minutes and its done. But maybe next time all call the ACLU and make a big fuss :hee:

So you're willing to take the chance this day an age, and let them go through without any extra checking? We're talking about hardcore terroists here, these guys are trained to be very calm as they go about thier mission. So we might not be able to tell just by that.

I'm saying that I'm not willing to sacrifice our freedom because I'm afraid...too many good Americans have died to protect it.

Besides, how do you know if someone is a Muslim?

-spence

The bombs sticking out of their clothing usually gives it away :)

It could be propaganda...no?It could've happened but it also might not've.Name calling...as a vet I've earned THAT right considering that this individual has spewed forth nothing but anti-American(troops)crap since he became a member.

Hate.You say it SEEMS like I'm full of it.Some things are not what they seem Paul.

My only concern is the welfare of our boys in uniform and their families.Our boys are so easily forgotten in the heat of political bull%$%$%$%$...well except now,it being around election time and all.

I'd classify stuff like this as more reactionary than propaganda.

-spence