Because they believe Ala will come an get them if they do!!

Come on now, we all know Islam is the religion of peace!:laugha: :err:

The Bible is full of violence.... lets just kill everyone and every thing :uhuh:

Your right the Christian Bible is full of violence, eye for an eye and Stoning to death type stuff. The difference between the Koran and the Bible appears to be the intellect of those who interperet each.

Yup, I don't know about you, but i don't see millions of radical christians going around cutting off heads, strapping on bombs, and planning to blow up airliners in the name of thier god. Only those members of the so called religion of peace do that.

Ya see the difference Skitter? or are you more afraid of radical Christians?! :rotf3:

This thread has a number of potential radicals..... :hee:

I do love hearing all this :kewl:

Not anymore, boy we haven't had a good old fashioned Christian Crusade in a long time.

All religions are based in peace and all are up to interpretation by both good and bad people. People take from them whatever meets there own Agenda. Pretty much every army that has fought in a war has said that God was on there side.

Plenty of whacked out christians out there too.

George W. Bush and his veep running mate, #^&#^&#^&#^& Cheney were talking,
when George W. said, "I hate all the dumb George W. jokes people tell about me."

Wise Old Cheney, feeling sorry for his old boss kid, said sage-like, "Oh, they are only jokes. There are a lot of stupid people out there. Here, Ill prove it to you."

Now Cheney, to patronize George W, took him outside and hailed a taxi driver.
"Please take me to 29 Nickel Street to see if Im home," said Cheney.

The cab driver without saying a word drove them to Nickel Street, and when they finally got out, Cheney looked at George W. and said, "See That guy was really stupid"

"No kidding," replied George W. "There was a pay phone just around the corner...
You could have called instead?"

:hihi:



dumber than a stick

Yea, and exploit it for political gain...nice.

I'm afraid if you can't see this then there's not much use discussing it.

-spence

You sure have a lot of faith...special ops have their place certainly, but they can't do squat to keep the moderates from slipping into extremisim.

Perhaps instead you could absorb the facts instead of just believing what you're told...

Our borders are still open, FBI computers still haven't been upgraded...heck the 9/11 panel gave the Admin an F for domestic protections.

Under Bush North Korea went from having zero nukes to 6-12.

Iran went from helping us in Afghanistan to electing an Islamic hardliner using fear to hurt our economy.

Iraq is in a bloody civil war which the Administration stubbornly denies. To this day they insist the Iraqi people want a unified country which simply isn't true.

The Palestinian people freely elected a terrorist government.

Egypt, Russia etc... have all moved further away from Democracy.

Bush is now held in lower regard in most Islamic nations than Osama Bin laden.

And on and on and on...

But it's all ok because at least the panty waisted liberals aren't in power :rollem:

I think the problem is pretty clear here. Your position is based on emotion instead of observable facts. Perhaps you've just bent under all the fearmongering.

-spence

Actually I'm not a Dem you old coot. Lifelong Republican who's abandoned the party of Goldwater for independent status until GOP has been seriously reformed.

If you think the social and neo conservatives represent the will of middle America than I've got some oceanfront land in Little Compton to sell you.

Because you're not paying any attention.

-spence

Are you serious? Stop it with the holier than thou approach will you. This "enlightened one act is tired. Where do you get this stuff? Escahton? Move On?

You give your opinion, I give mine, You post your party articles I post mine.

:wavey:


I love it when Bush says the Iraqui people just want freedom and democracy after we Shocked and Awed their asses and as we now try to desperately control an escalating civil war.

Would we want to become a strict orthodox Muslim country after being pounded by a Isalmic war machine?


They never asked for us and they don`t want us there.

Your just the kind of Republican the party dosen't need!! There are enough turn-coats in politics now!!!!

Or retired military, Bush's lips, terrorisim experts, first hand observers...

I don't even know what Eschaton is, nor do I get anything from MO.

This conclusion isn't based on emotion, it's based on observable evidence (both empiracle and anecdotal) that's multi-sourced.

Enlightened no...but informed yes!

-spence

Turn coat?

The entire GOP has cast aside traditional conservatisim for a new radically progressive authoritarian rule. It's they who are the turn-coats.

Think about what being a conservative meant to the likes of Barry Goldwater and then look at today.

Stop defining yourself by what you are not and take inventory of what you are!

-spence

I can't believe your comparing yourself to Barry Goldwater, you couldn't make a pimple on Goldwaters ass.

For that matter, you couldn't make a pimple on any Republican's ASS. Including ME!!!!

I have a lot of admiration for Goldwater, although I'm not a classic Goldwater conservative, never said I was.

But if you think Goldwater is in any way aligned with the GOP of the past 12 years then you're either in complete denial or don't have a good understanding of what was then and what is now.

A very good book I'd recomend is John Dean's "Conservatives Without Conscience" which goes into this subject in great detail.

I'd be happy to send you a copy if you promise to read it :think:

-spence

says it all
 

On one of the "other " Boards a guy has the tag line that I think says it all. It's a quote from Sinclair Lewis " When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross".
And the Supreme Court openned the door. And the Americam people were afraid enough to ( I won't say re-lect) vote him back in.

JUST BECAUSE IT'S PRINTED DOSEN'T MAKE IT FACT!

One by one the Democratic Party keeps having to abandon all the insane positions that have made it the funny, silly party we've come to know and love!! I still say,".308 holes make Invisible Souls"

You really can't deal with it can you?

Goldwater's understudy and personal friend documents the sad shape of the GOP and it still has no merrit?

I'm not sure of your Dem attack. Was it to illustrate the meaning of "inane" or "pointless".

This is the problem with the GOP today, all emotion...no reality.

-spence

Well, we would have to discuss the further next week when I return,
I have a plane to catch. But, rest asure, I'll be back next week!!

I'm sure you can pick up a copy of Dean's book (still in hardcover unfortunately) in the airport :)

-spence

Why do I doubt UFFAH! is headed for Barnes & Noble. :grins:

anyone remember when if you were working class you were a democrat?

except for the wealthy politicians and other wealthy democrats :spin: