I love the ditch.It is easy to see EEl man i s tryin to belittle the skills of a fisherman who takes fish from the big ditch.
Of coarse it's not as hard as some other type of surfcasting.
I can do both.I like both.
I can go stand on a rock reef in the middle of the south side of Montauk an take waves all night or i can go stand on a rock an thro 4-5 oz jigs jiggin he big ditch.they are not the same both of em will wear u out after night of fishin em.both can reward u with good fish.
I can hang anywhere with u bill.No doubt in my mind.i know guys that are more hardcore than I.
U should come with me a few nights will hit 3 or 4 different spots.
Thro big lead all night.If u hook a 20 lber u will want me to reel em in for ya.When a 35 takes the jig he wants to hurt it.It's like havin a orgasm to a jig guy.O ya some spots if u can't chuck that 5 oz jig 120 only holdin the rod back to 10 o'clock, u ain't gettin em.
so eat ur wheaties..
If u ask me feedin live bait to big fish in the aquarium is not surfcasting either...
U like to stir the pot thats funny but u got no sense of humor....
I think clamma is right u are a whacko.Nice topic though..

i guess #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& is too much man for all of us ditch sissies. :blush:

Just doin a few eel jigs haven't decided.
I may check to see if i have a penis an go surf fish some real rocks..

:hihi: all jacked up! :fishslap:

i think the weather will be better in the ditch than that surf spot, so decide soon.
let me know and I will plan

7 pm should get me there for a few hrs of the west...

:hihi:

I agree with #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&. Any sissy can be a surf fisherman (folding chair , sand spike , chunkof bait , can of beer) but being a canal jigger takes a real man! :)

I think if you wet a line from a boat , even just one time a season , you can't call yourself a surf fisherman anymore either.

Come to think of it , I think I'm going to start calling myself a fish fisherman....is that redundant?

When Jesus gatherd his deciples , he said he was going to make them fishers of men. So I guess its OK to say fishers of fish too so fish fisherman is not redundant...I think , but I'm not sure.

Hmmmm

I do know for sure that people like Jules and Jenn cannot call themselves any kind of fisherman , regardless of where they fish. They are fisherwoman or less formally fishergirls or for the chauvanists..fisherbabes. So I guess the real question is whether they would be surf fisherbabes or shore fisherbabes if they were in the canal. yeah that's the question we need to answere.

God , I won't be able to sleep tonight with such important questions to ponder.

I better have a beer and think about this somemore!!

u shoulda been a lawyer saltheart

fishers might be politcally correct but I like fishbabes . I will have a few beers tomorrow night to ponder this more . only cause it will take me that long to get the thought to my head

Nib -- ya hit it right on the head. :claps: Most that are posting on the thread probably have never spent a night ch#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g 5 oz into a 30 mph headwind to jig for the biguns!!!:doh:

or six oz jigs on a telephone pole like an allstar 1209...all night

I dont know the telephone pole outside my house says UI 3756 . oops now I let everyone know where I live

I was hit in the head with 3oz

i find that very bassturbing.

Last week i put a 4oz jig off my head.Chipped the paint on the jig.shoulda got 6-10 stiches.went to the truck cleaned it up an went back out.
bassturbater.is there any other rod..

wow, you're a real man


I'm going to leave now to bring my son Danny surf fishing at the canal, he wants to be a surf fisher for fish. He wants to catch a pollack

The canal is one of the most frustrating and difficult place to fish on the entire striper coast. Don't knock it till you try it. What is the point of this thread other than to start some contreversy? I respect the jiggers of the canal so much especially after trying to learn it the past few seasons. Eeling in the canal? Another art form in itself. Try setting up on a fish when the first half of your cast is flowing west and the last half is flowing east. Not fishing the canal because it has no "surf" makes you sound like an elitist. I like catching fish

So I guess we that fish the canal are "Canal Fishermen"
It's the largest sea level canal in the world.

BTW Great topic are you doing a collum on it:jump:



5/0

:rotf3:

Actually easier to cast 6 all night than to cast 3 ;)

Okaaay, 36 to go :jump:

the canal is a gift from the fish gods. its like nothing else we got in the northeast.tides fast tides slow , up n down , east n west. 24/7.. not the beach or surf.its the CANAL thats all

Us in Upper Michigan fishing the Great Lakes call it " surf fishing" I'm not saying we are right but that is what everybody here calls it.

Some places that have beef and fish meals call it surf and turf so is surf water and turf land?

penguins is practically chickens.:uhuh:

Well on the way.... :buds: :rotf2:

This knocks it down to 30 to go. We moved up ten places in 20 minutes :humpty:

Didn't bite on Nobska Light---kinda surprising ;)

some people say cucumbers taste better pickled :huh:

would surfanal work :devil2:

Howzabout curf fishing?

What do you call dropping live bunker and eels on top of fishfinder bass? Home shopping network?

[What do you call dropping live bunker and eels on top of fishfinder bass? Home shopping network?] LMAO!!!!!!

i would consider it surf fishing because i use the EXACT same gear in the canal as i would at nauset beach. i own 3 rods and i would and do use them all in both locations.

to me, there is no difference.

Canangling:)

sounds like.. Kah nan gle

Cananglers Canangle

I like that Moto

Canangler, it has a nice ring.

skitter
 

lol...:bgi: dropping live bunker on fish..good one

You have got to be kiddin me throwing bait in the canal any sissy can do huh? They better have some coin because it's gonna cost em alot of rigs. Don't knock sittin in a chair throwin chuncks drinkin beer just because you don't consider it "angling". There is 1001 different ways to catch fish in the canal and nobody can positively say one way is better than another. It is not Surf fishing everyone knows it's Canal fishing and to each their own. Jiggin, Pluggin, Chunkin what ever is producing is all that counts. Try throwing a chunk in a spot someone else has not told you about and get hung up. Yeah it's that simple. The Canal has been passed on for years showing there really is no spot that is his "own". Anyway not to get distracted it is not Surf fishing there's no waves.:poke:

i wish i would have said that.......its the same only different

Skitterpop, I love you! Great line and for this thread it was brilliant!

Canal fishing is a genre all it's own. There are methods there and plugs that were designed and made strictly with canal fishing use in mind ( Stan Gibb's pencil poppers, Cast-a-Lures slant face popper and Polaris were designed for canal fishing before anything else)

There is another place where the smae type of fishing exists on the east coast, the Delaware Canal. Our railroad bridge and thiers are twins built and designed by the same company. The tide extremes are no where near as great but the do have "breaking tides" and guys do fish them as we fish ours. No it's not surfcasting and it does alighn itself with shore fishing but's it's an entrely unique experience in bass fishing to be sure.

True surfcasting is done on sand beaches facing the open Atlantic where the structure changes day to day and the surfcaster has to constantly rethink his/her approach. Fishing the rocky ledges of the Elizabeth Islands and RI is a type of surfcasting but not surfcasting in it's purest form. The terrain once learned is easier to master as there are no major structural changes from day to day or week to week or season to season only the availability of bait and fish dictates success, once learned, affect the outcome. Change there is only significantly realized after a major weather event most likely being a hurricane and that is a rare occurence, yes standing on a slippery ledge in a high surf is very close and at times dangerous but the amount of guess work in figuring out the how and where is much less. Same goes for the canal and add live bait, fresh dead bait and it gets even easier,the hardest part being getting to your spot, which through little or no access and weather conditions, can be a dilemma.

A high surf fisherman, on an open Atlantic sand beach as we have on the outer Cape, Monomoy,Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard, the southern shores of eastern Long Island, New Jersey, the eastern shore of Maryland, Virginia and the Outer Banks is surfcasting in it's highest form and I firmly believe taxes the skills and knowledge of a fisherman more than any other type of fishing thereby making it the most rewarding when everything you know, have learned and is put before you and analyzed and a decision made, lays a gleaming bass at your feet in a rush of white foam and sand.

But this was a discussion of the canal and I do love the canal and was once a confirmed rat but it isn't the most challenging place to fish that we have.

#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& sure knows how to draw a crowd !

Is it called

Surf fishing or Surf catching

Canal fishing or Canal catching

Or ENJOYMENT !

Must be something here to get 5/0 to speak.

Cold Fog, warm fog, night birds and snakes,