John,

I am in for 3

Whatever design you make i will take 4. Sure we all have opinions on what the shirt should look like, i for 1 will take whatever you decide on. Whatever it looks like we will all know it represents S-B. We dont need a logo to spell it out for us.

Those Raiders fans sure do cry when things don't go their way!:bc:

I know one or two boat guys that fish plugs!:huh:

How about a pic of plugs on the back and a guy wire line jigging on the front?:rotf2:

im kinda with RR on this one in that it ,looks like a dedication to the great plug builders on this site. (which is fine if thats what you want).

I may have missed it but this is a s-b shirt, not a thank you to the sponsers/plug builders shirt right?

I will buy 1 or 2 to support s-b. but it doesnt look like the SHIRT is supporting s-b.

i'd personally like something that isnt so "loud". If the majority of people on here use the sponser plugs than you will probably do real well with the shirt. I suspect the farther north you go, the interest will drop off a bit.

Alot of times great statments are made with the simplest of designs. look at apple... white on white with and apple and chunk bitten out. I personally am not a fan of apple but you know the logo. linux have a dopey looking penguin. not everyone knows what it is but if you are in the industry you do. Same can apply here I imagine...

Not trying to step on creative toes... and, after 200 hrs of work put in, im sure its hard not to take constructive criticism personally.

Great plug shirt though! Whats the front look like?
just my .02 TIFWIW

Do two shirts and double your money!:uhuh:

not a bad idea.

Put the S-B logo with the flag on the front and keep the back as is. It looks great John. I am sure it took some effort. I will take a few as well. Start a pre-order to cover some of the expenses.

If the design is really that complex it had better cost a mint or it's not going to look good!

-spence

Yeah.. what freak said..

art's nice and all, but a bit much IMHO.. keep it simple and classy.
Beefy T definately.. NO pocket
pale clammer blue would be fine,
or pale green :D

John,

What's on the front ?

Duh me :sick: sworry Still way too busy for me... looks like an ad for those sponsors....

Its def a shirt for the Sponsers, the first thing you notice about the shirt is the sponsers, i had to look hard to see the Striped-bass.com on it! Let the sponsers put out thier own shirts, and let the site have a shirt thats just for SB.com. To over the top, i'd walk around feeling like a freakin car at a Nascar race with all the damn sponsers and adds posted on my back!!:hihi:

This shirt shouldnt be dedicated to one group or a few sponsers, it should be a shirt that includes ALL Sb.com members and isnt a walking advertisment for Sponsers and Plug builders. The Striper/American flag is simple, yet classy, and includes ALL Striped-Bass.com members. And its our offical logo after all!! And is focused on the site ONLY and not Sponsers.

I'm with RR on this, as much as i like the she current design on the shirt, its to over the top for me to actually wear.

And the fact that Skitterpop and I actaully agree on this, should tell you something is seriosly wrong with the concept of the shirt!

Sorry but no thanks do not like it. Seems to be a ad for plugs not SB.com I know they put up money but so have many others here year after year and they do not ask to have a shirt for it. I may be getting old and cranky but I am disappointed in the design:yak5:

And that is the whole thing. One simply cannot please ALL groups on this site. I figured that if I went with something above and beyond the norm that it would overcome this. I figured if S-B had a shirt that was different then just slapping a logo and a phrase - which everyone else does - would be more universaly accepted - apparently I was wrong.

At this point I'm ready to %$%$%$%$ can the whole shirt thing. I'll keep this up for a few days before deciding if this is worth doing or not.

As for the sponsors helping by sending some dough to help produce this shirt - is that the problem? It makes it too "Commercialized"?

john,
the shirt looks like this is STRICKly a plug building website, not a striped bass website

plain logo.....classy.....gives the website free advertisment

just my opinion

if it was a plug building website, that shirt would be great

I read this post this morning and didnt respond, I felt lousy being critical since John does SO much work to keep this thing running. Like many, I'm not crazy about the design, too busy and it is too plug-centric.
I would love a shirt with just a logo, plain and simple.

I like the shirt, these guys are sponsors and plug builders we all look up too. Just do the shirt John.

John--I like it and I'd take at least one, maybe two.

It's a friggin' T-shirt, fer crissakes. I'm not gonna wear it to the Coonamesset Inn or to court.

Yes I will John. Let me know when?

John, perhaps make two. One with a simple logo and one with your design.

John, who would object to a simple White T shirt with the official SB logo on the back?? Thats all i'm saying, you can't go wrong with that design. Its simple and straight to the point. Simple is always better, alot of people dont like flashy stuff.

I have a few TheHullTruth tshirts,
They make it very clear of what the hull truth is even for someone who never heard of that site.
It comes down to this,
Are we doing a shirt desigh for the site or plug building ???
If you (John) are doing a shirt for plug building it's awesome, and I don't want to make you think all the time & work you put into it is not appreciated,
But I thought this was a FISHING site !!!
Not one that caters to only 1 portion of it's members !

The thread asked if we would buy one of these and then when some say no we do not like it some find they must get testy? All they did was give their answer to the question. I think Johns idea is to have a shirt that will sell to the LARGEST number here or am I missing something here? If the shirt is not to help bring money to the site then yes any design would be fine. But if it is to bring $$$$$$$ to the site then you would want a shirt that would give you the best sales to the MOST number of members. To that end John I would be willing to donate up to $500.00 for the print work of a SB.com logo shirt that sells SB.com only and I will not ask to have my name put on it:uhuh: just want the first shirt.

Damn - who knew this would hit 3 pages faster than an #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& thread :hf1: ?


OK moneybags ;) - Maybe I'm just beating myself over the head a little with the whole shirt thing. And no, I would not have you do that ;) :tooth:

If this were the plugs, and not "sponsored by" yadayadayada , with the Normal S-B logo over the front pocket, would that seem "less commercial" ?

As for this appearing just for the plugs, we have ALL different kinds of anglers here and one of the most consistant threads in our community is the custom plugs beacuse a lot of people fish them - not talking about building - but fish them, from surf, canal, boat, yak.

"You can please some of the people some of the time...but you can't please all of the people all of the time"!

John,

Please understand that I am in no way attempting to take away from what you've done. It can be tweaked though and I'm willing to help.

Very simple design:

Front of shirt says: "Support your Local Hookers" small print bold/font

Back of shirt has the sb logo same as the automobile stickers. Humor and you deliver your message in one color ink. ;)

Or you could do a picture of a guy hooked up to a fish on the back.

The design shown:

John the design you show looks very busy and Im getting the idea that the main focus are three dif. things but they realy dont all play well together. 1. the sb logo. 2. the lures, looks great! but as was mentioned maybe a bit much I mean I love it, but not tied together with 1 & 3. Section three looks like it was tacked on as after thought. Again Im not attacking your work just giving my opinion. If anything I'm willing to help you work on this :)

Suggestions for the current design would be to increase the font size of the logo name on the back, and remove the sponsor names from the back of the shirt. This makes section 1 and 2 place a little nicer together.

Take the sponsors names, every sponsor: Have them run listed horizontally but in clear text on the sleeves of the T's.

Or have the art work on the front of the shirt, and the sb logo, same as the stickers on the back of the shirt with a listing of the sponsors on the back of the shirt. This would make soo much more sense with mock ups. If I have time today I'll hop on it.

I feel the same way, I think if you put the Sponcers on one of the sleeves and a simple design

What ever you do John, please put me in for 2 xxl
What no Antique Lures ????
lol... only fooling around
VB

ya make 500 shirts =====once ya figure out // what its gonna look like ;;
Put the sponosors anywhere ya want --------- & watch ------------------- sponosors drop out // new ones come in & want [On] the shirt ;;;

one of the clubs I,m a member in states it real clear;;;

KEEP IT SIMPLE :eyes:

I second that idea.
Now that I think of it John, it's nice but it really doesn't represent the site to me.
I think u should make an #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& shirt too, bet you'd sell a lot of them. Maybe like my avitar with a pic of #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& in the middle..Sorry Bill, couldn't resist.:rotf2:

I suppose it could be worse,
John could put a pic of Clammers ass on a shirt !!!:spidey:

good point :claps:

oh and the SAMPLE going across the whole thing.... awful! ruins the design :rotfl::rotfl:

I don't like that
I'd gladly pay the extra 5 bucks to not have those names or ads on the bottom. I won't be buying that one with the names, nothing against those guys, I just don't feel it belongs.

It was supposed to be a batch of shirts for the plugfest we always have every winter, but I guess it evolved into that.

A nice t-shirt with maybe the S-B logo from the site up in the left top corner on the front and the pic of plugs without the sponsors would be a much better choice.

my 2 cents

Agree with most of what ThrowingTimber said...although I'm pretty sure I could design a better shirt than he could :hee:

-spence

John, you will never please everyone. I'm in for three lg's whatever the final design.

No offense John, but I figured an official site shirt would be a simple and to the point logo. That one is way too busy and doesn't really promote the site. It's more like promoting the sponsors. Nothing wrong with that, but a site only shirt is what I'd want if I had a choice.

I'd pay whatever you asked for a couple with this on it, and maybe the bumper sticker logo on the other side.

JOhn,

Let spence and I deliver a few designs/ideas.

If Im understanding this the design was meant for the plug fest we have in the first few months of the season. If thats the case The shirt is great for that. I dont think it would be something that woud encompass the membership as a whole.

Looks like a lot of the work is done for the plug fest shirt though. Sb logo on the front. Plugs n stuff sans sponsors on the back.

What Im feeling for an sb shirt that would emcopass all the membership would be a simple small design on the front. And the sb suto sticker logo on the back.

So, it breaks down to a simple bread and butter shirt. Small design on the front, and the auto ab logo on the back. Sponsor listings on the sleeves of the shirt, I figure 4 or 5 sponsors (do we even have that many?) listed horizontally on the sleeves of the t shirt small logo on the front and large sb suto sticker logo on the back. Very simple shirt, but it emcompasses the membership, if I'm reading correctly peoples responses.

Again, John not to take away from your efforts or what youve done, but I think the simple/r shirt is what folks want. And I mean yeah its a simple shirt, but folks will still pay a premium for the shirt because its going to support the site and we're all aware of this.

The plug fest shirt for the early spring is done, pretty much. You've done just about everything for and just having the plugs on the back of the shirt, and an sb logo on the front will cover that no problem. And with all the colors etc involved in that shirt that would be more of a price hike, but again, we all know its to generate funds for the site so I mean personally I would be willing to pay 25+ for a shirt done up that way.

Yes, I will buy one of this design, and will probably buy subsequent design shirts, assuming they still help keep the lights on.

Some make this seem like an end all prom dress decision........print 'em and they will sell, just watch.

i agree its kind of silly to be arguing about the design of a shirt. i do however think it shows how much this community cares about s-b

I think the main concern is what being represented. I want to wear a shirt that repsents s-b, not AH or HABS etc etc... (no offense to the sponsers) I kind of think its the sponsors jobs to sell their own duds.

This time John, I don't think anyone will fault you for being selfish in your design to being about your creation... that we all truly appreciate.

again, i'll 1 or 2 of whatever to keep the lights on!

Don't think anyone is arguing...aside from Skip who just thinks he'll be more credible in the political threads if he actually is wearing in the flag :hee: :laughs:

Some good feedback, it's only because we care :)

-spence