Originally Posted by Ed B (Post 468015)

A few thoughts:
1. June = cool water, Moderate surf = plenty of Oxygen and frisky fish. Fish in the 30 lb class and bigger in the spring after the spawn are big+long for their weight and fight well. You won't yank any of them across the surface on 20 lb line if your drag is set where it should be. So it's going to take a while to get them in.
2. Three hours into the drop with a swell tells me there's a good chance you have a good current where your at and the fish are sitting nose into the current looking to feed. You'll probably have to present your plug properly like a small fish gets overtaken by current or they won't grab your offer, as a steady pick but no blitzing indicates that, at least to me anyway. The guys who've got buck-fever and are casting and reeling like crazy won't catch much (maybe one or two fish, but they won't get more than three).
3. Flap, you don't say how many other guys you have to share the action with, but since you don't mention it, I'll guess it won't be a factor and they won't be in the way. With current and thirty pound plus fish they'll take some line and you'll have to move down the beach some after you hook up.
4. I'll estimate five minutes of casting before the hit on a steady bite, + ten minutes/fish = 8 fish but if you account for time to retie once plus one likely tackle screwup, bent hook, plug change or tangle or pilot error, your down to 7 fish.
5. My final answer is 7 fish for those conditions listed for a 2 hour period. If you spend time on the release, which can be a pain in the swell, you may likely end up with less than this.

Ed

Originally Posted by numbskull (Post 468086)

After the fourth fish I'd probably move looking for bigger ones.....and come up empty.

Originally Posted by DZ (Post 468078)

Those damn engineers. Always have a formula or equation. That's why I like fishing with Ed. He's got the angle figured out.

DZ

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 467937)

I'd be happy with one......

Originally Posted by BASSTracker (Post 468413)

This year............ZERO!!

Am going the All Trophies Route this year. Will catch the belly fillers inbetween the BIG GIRLS for the fridge............but this year I'm taking the Crazy Al approach and am WALKING AWAY!!!

I know, I know it sounds very foreign to the adrenaline, excitement, and "they're here" factor that consumes us; yet, do you want to catch and release quantities of feesh, or do you want to target that TROPHY or Quality Large that only come few and far between. And then again, if one does become a genuine Trophy Hunter wouldn't the number of landed COWS increase ~ya know, not be so few and occur more often~ by the very nature of solely targetting the 50# class and up?

Gonna be tough, but iffin you're spending that much time where ya know there are 30's, why not move and go git that 50+, somewheres? Don't get me wrong it would be a BLAST, but if I only have so many feesh in me, why not focus me efforts on the BIGGUNS, give them a quick pic, and safe release or mount if she truly is the Striper of a Lifetime?

Originally Posted by Rockfish9 (Post 468442)

I tend to leave "smaller" fish for bigger ones, myself, I'm not interested in numbers, just quality, but if I recall the post correctly, it was 30 and up.... that size fish just might have a big one in it, I just might go to a bigger bait..... I've been there.

Originally Posted by NIB (Post 468512)

Sometimes it is harder(takes longer) to land a fish on a sandy beach than from a rock.Any kinda of surf making undertow an u have alot of give an take till the job is done..

Originally Posted by Joe (Post 468565)

But anyways - I guess we need to be very skeptical when people claim to have 500# nights or better....

Originally Posted by Slipknot (Post 468577)

skeptical I guess is just part of being a fisherman I guess. I have a poor memory so I don't have to worry about remembering my lies since I tell the truth. Speaking of 500 pound nights, I and a good friend have had 500 pound nights in about 3-4 hours of a tide a couple of falls ago. fish from 15 to 30 pounds, the average was between 20 and 25 lbs, we each had almost 3 dozen fish a piece. Fished till our arms ached, put them all back too. It was a night I'll not ever forget. 600 pounds of fish each was a lot of fish. We had a good week or 2 and that night was the peak. You can believe it or not.
I bet if our other friend K was there, he would have done just as well too :)


Flap, I hope that scenario happens this year and I am there, because I'd be happy with just 1 30 on a needle.:ss:

Originally Posted by Slipknot (Post 468577)

skeptical I guess is just part of being a fisherman I guess. I have a poor memory so I don't have to worry about remembering my lies since I tell the truth. Speaking of 500 pound nights, I and a good friend have had 500 pound nights in about 3-4 hours of a tide a couple of falls ago. fish from 15 to 30 pounds, the average was between 20 and 25 lbs, we each had almost 3 dozen fish a piece. Fished till our arms ached, put them all back too. It was a night I'll not ever forget. 600 pounds of fish each was a lot of fish. We had a good week or 2 and that night was the peak. You can believe it or not.
I bet if our other friend K was there, he would have done just as well too :)


Flap, I hope that scenario happens this year and I am there, because I'd be happy with just 1 30 on a needle.:ss:

Originally Posted by zimmy (Post 468785)

I hope I am lucky enough to have that happen to me once or twice in my life . I can't imagine anyone actually walk away from that :eek5: ... I think for most fishers, especially those of us who have only been serious at this in the recent decades, a 2 hour solid bite by 30lb plus bass would be a night of a lifetime. Maybe if they were mostly 10-20 lbs you might leave after a bit, but 30lbers?

I would be interested to know how many people have had a night of legitimate 2 solid hours of 30lbers (say 6-10 fish @ 30lbs+) in the last 15 or 20 years from shore. Man that just seems like an unusual event these days. But maybe I just don't fish enough and the right places :cool: .

Originally Posted by jim sylvester (Post 468798)

zimmy
decksweeper and i got into 25-30 lb class for 3 hours straight last year. A night i will NEVER forget. He was picking up fish cast after cast, I was into 2 fish to his 6, and i was 50 yards south of him.
He calls me over to get to the rock he was on, which put me in a sticky situation going neck deep to get there for about 20 feet. I knew it was worth it, had to get there. When i finally got to the rock, a helping hand got me out of the water and the games begun

these fish were in front of us for A SOLID 3 HOURS, cast after cast. It got to the point where we were laughing like school children.

end of the night, exhausted, we enjoyed a couple of cold ones reminicing.





sorry to bring this night up again Joe figulero, I know hearing this makes you go back to therapy

Originally Posted by zimmy (Post 468785)

I would be interested to know how many people have had a night of legitimate 2 solid hours of 30lbers (say 6-10 fish @ 30lbs+) in the last 15 or 20 years from shore. Man that just seems like an unusual event these days. But maybe I just don't fish enough and the right places :cool: .