according to earlier in the thread we have a new big fish weighed in, so that fish is being bumped...

I just noticed Tobias had one for ur team.
I rememeber some thread about bent hooks..
He kinda slipped it in there.Or maybe I was not paying attention..
Anyways.......
Nice fish andy..

Thanks Tony:hidin: Lots a big fish that night. That was the largest I was able to land that night. The others, well you saw the hooks and split rings. Wish I could have landed the others. I hope to weigh in one larger before the end of the tournament.

Just saw this in projo.com....this guy is on team striper...

60-Pounder

Big-bass specialist Ray Jobin brought a bass to Breachway Bait & Tackle that weighed 59.75 pounds this week, said Ron Mouchon, owner of the store.

Everywhere. Mainly CT, RI, and MA.

Well I hope u get one also.
On 9/17....:hihi:

take a Troll fishing ....:angel:

Anyone know what our bottom fish is know???

35.2 as far as I know, anyone know when they post updates

:cheers:

1.Striped-Bass.com 519.76
1) Michael Ludlow 59.28 45.6 shore
2) Joshua Clogston 57.52 44.25 shore
3) Jim Sylvester 54.44 41.88 shore
4) Michael Ludlow 53.45 41.12 shore
5) Craig Stockwell. 53.11 40.86 shore
6) Stephen Kasabula 52.49 40.38 shore
7) Tony Orlando 49.79 38.3 shore
8) Sandro Tobias 49.20 37.85 shore
9) Tyler Rhoads 45.76 35.2 shore
10)Mike Luccini 44

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Club Leaders

1.Striped-Bass.com 519.76
1) Michael Ludlow 59.28 45.6 shore
2) Joshua Clogston 57.52 44.25 shore
3) Jim Sylvester 54.44 41.88 shore
4) Michael Ludlow 53.45 41.12 shore
5) Craig Stockwell. 53.11 40.86 shore
6) Stephen Kasabula 52.49 40.38 shore
7) Tony Orlando 49.79 38.3 shore
8) Sandro Tobias 49.20 37.85 shore
9) Tyler Rhoads 45.76 35.2 shore
10)Mike Luccini 44.72 34.4 shore

2. Team Jersey Shore 497.36
1) Bill Bertsch 52.00 40 shore
2) Mel Martens 51.50 39.62 shore
3) John Abrams 51.35 39.5 shore
4) Jerry Van De Sande 50.99 39.23 shore
5) Bill Cuba 50.70 39 shore
6) Tony Grubiak 48.75 37.5 shore
7) Bill McFadden 48.42 37.25 shore
8) Brian Biedenger 48.10 37 shore
9) Mel Martens 48.10 37 shore
10) Tony Grubiak 47.45 36.5 shore

3. Team #^&#^&#^&#^&s 469.86
1) Nick Warburton 51.90
2) Nick Warburton 51.60
3) Whitney Brush 50.70
4) Miles Whyte 47.80
5) Mark Sherer 47.56
6) Lev Wlodyka 47.10
7) Greg Tayntor 44.60
8) Madeline Bourcier 44.40
9) Alec Gale 43.90
10) Joe Thompson 40.30

Nice work guys!

Minimum is now a 35ish Shore and a 45ish boat :btu:

I have another on the way (weigh slip didn't make it in on time) from last week. So 35.2# surf is the minimum.

Maybe we should try to keep our own unofficial track of our top 10, just to keep from weighing in fish unnecessarily during the week between official updates?

Nice work. I bet they trim the 1.3 surf factor a little next year, I would bet some feel the boat guys are out of it.

Wait and see how Team Striper finishes ;) Ray Jobin's 60 is still worth more than any of SB's fish. If #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& was in, RISAA would have a 60 and a 50+ in their column, too.

If Team Striper breaks 500 points, I'd say the field is pretty level.

[QUOTE=Mike P;518467]If #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& was in, RISAA would have a 60 and a 50+ in their column, too.
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I thought #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& caught both of his in the same week? If so, only the 50 would be on the board.

weather we win or not, I think you guys have proven that S-B has some of the best surfcasters out there to win over the boat guys would be freakin' awesome though. I guess I need to catch some fish...

How many members do s-b have on the team? Is there a limit to the number of members a team can have? In all fairness the score should be normalized by the size of the team.

Wow - some impressive catches. That Team Striper roster looks like the Who's Who of pinhookers. Also recognize a few names that were "free agents" after last year and signed on to new teams looking for a shot at glory. Still not crazy about this thing but good luck to Striped-bass.com.

DZ

I would guess there are somewhere between 30 and 40 sparticipants from this site that indicated they were part of the team. I would also think some of the larger groups like rissa and msba would be competive size wise. There were some other groups that looked like they could be big too who knows. I would hope OTW would put a cap on it for next year if we somehow had a much larger team than everyone else.

the other thing is, we're not the only web site around, I'm sure nothing is stopping other sites from fielding a team if they wanted to, so I'd say it's fair

I would say we have about 30 registered for the Tourney. So some more and some less than other teams.

Team S-B's advantages could be:

• We have a good collection of anglers competing
• We are benefiting from the "shore bass" ratio
• We are benefiting from having anglers all over though the fish have come from 3 predominant regions this year: RI shore, Ditch, Mass North Shore (we also don't place in any location specific categories because of this)

Advantages Team S-B is not having:

• No boat "Ringers"
• No Commercial Boat Pros
• No Large registrations

Other groups well represented by Shore guys:

Team Jersey Shore 497.36
all 10 from Shore

Martha's Vineyard Surfcasters 466.88
9 of 10 fish from shore

RISAA 357.58
4 of 10 from shore

Jersey Shore Surfcasters 348.47
9 of 10 fish from shore

"Fair" will certainly be a moving target in this competition. Last year the boat guys, especially heavy commercial boat guys, dominated this tourney. So last year the fairness was questioned by the disadvantage to the shore guys and the non commercial guys. Changes were made for the points ratio (I wouldn't be surprised if some boat guys are complaining hard about that this year). This year, Jersey fielded two good teams with mostly surfcasters and those results speak too. The time range of the Tourney seems to favor the boat guys too.

If the scoring was normalized by the amount of members, where else should it be normalized? Boat -v- Shore was done (and could be further tweaked), Rec -v- Comm?

I think every year there will be factors that contribute to how well a team does or not and those factors will change yearly too. This year the Jersey guys had a ton of pogies. Did that stop fish that should have gone from the Chesapeake to the Cape? what other facotrs could change the balance next year? No pogies in RI but all in Buzzards Bay or off the Islands? All in Boston Harbor?

[QUOTE=Steve K;518479]I guess it might depend on when in the week he caught it. ;)

I'll have to check the rules. I know that the MV Derby has a rule that a fish must be weighed and entered within 12 hours of the time it's caught. Dunno whether OTW has a similar rule. :huh:

And I still haven't weighed a decent fish in for team s-b.com, sorry guys.. :(

me neither johnny....but Im trying like hell...and hope to soon...:lasso:

I wish I could help with the points, But I am just to lazy to go and fish:gu:

We had a pretty big team also..Yet some of the guys who I fish with did not enter.
That does not matter if u ask me.
Nice fish Luds..U did the right thing an it paid off for ya..
I'm happy to see it..

I think the only thing they may do is change the conversion rate on surf fish to 1.2. As far as limiting the size of a team, I don't feel that will happen as it discourages participation and entry fees.
With regard to who has the advantage, its only the second year of the tourney and while s-b is primarily surf fishermen and a number of guys have had a good year, that doesn’t mean next year will be the same. We could suck wind next year because that’s how surf fishing is.
I think the tourney is pretty fairly set up overall, and OTW will make changes as needed to keep things equitable for both sides. (boat and surf)
Disclaimer: I am not an OTW employee, just another squid with a point of view.

Real nice job guys. Some very nice numbers there.

i agree with all of the above

[QUOTE=Mike P;518535][QUOTE=Steve K;518479]

I guess it might depend on when in the week he caught it. ;)

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Exactly

[QUOTE=Steve K;518783][QUOTE=Mike P;518535]I re-read the rules twice, and I see nothing there that would make it illegal to weigh a fish in a day or two after it was caught--as long as it was caught in accordance with state regs on bag limits :huh:

Angler’s are allowed to enter and weigh only one (1) fish per week

I know. Steve and I were wondering about whether it would be Kosher for someone to say, catch two nice fish on a Saturday, enter one, and then enter the second the following Monday at the start of a new week ;)

I don't see anything that specifically says you can't :confused: :huh:

Rhode Island Mobile Sportsfishermen has a team in the tourney and their membership is capped at 600 members. Whats to stop all the membership from going out and giving it hell :buds:

Thats true Mike, it says "enter" nothing about when it was caught!

Sounds like the "Barry Bonds" defense

I'm a shore fisherman and have to say that the balance has shifted too far to the shore fisherman this year. The boat fisherman had an advantage last year, but this year now the shore fisherman do. 1.3 is too high a number and unrealistic for boat fisherman. I agree with the 1.2 or even 1.15. A 52# average is not realistic. I'd like to see a cap of 25 per team, that way the playing field is leveled and there is nothing that can be done about the range, i.e. having members from New Jersey to Maine.

Another great thought would be to have a shore striper cup and a boat striper cup and get rid of the conversion ratio all together. The MV Derby has created two seperate events for just this reason. It is too hard to get the shore and boat fisherman to get along or to agree on anything. A 52# bass from the shore is a great fish, but not unlikely. For a boat fisherman to catch a 67.6# bass is HIGHLY unlikely. How has the playing field been leveled or fair?

They DEFINITELY have to work out how the weigh slips are handled. If a tackle shop wants to be a weigh station it must be mandatory that they have a fax machine. Go spend the $100 or less, buy a fax machine and fax those weigh slips at the end of each day. If a weigh slip is not faxed within 24 hours that fish is disqualified and that weigh station is no longer able to be a weigh station. It is absurd that these weigh stations are holding their slips for over a week and discarding a weigh slip if a guy caught a bigger fish that week. It is happening. 24 hour time limit and the time and date need to be on the weigh slip.

It is also crazy that you can ONLY fish from boat or shore. I love to fish with my friends from their boats. If I catch a big fish from the boat I can do nothing with it. Ooo, I can get a pounder pin, but I can't contribute to my team. They say it discourages cheating, but wouldn't this encouraging cheating even more?

It is only the second year of this tournament so they still have some bugs to be worked out, these are some of them. I like this tournament, it gives me motivation, especially in late July and August and I like the competitive nature in it.

i dont agree with 25 man per team cap.there are clubs with hundreds of members.a 52lb from the surf is rare. correct me if iam wrong but theres only 1 surf 50lber while thers quite a few boat 50,s

Go Trolls !!!!