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Clogston29 03-03-2008 03:27 PM

To me, the problem isn’t the asking of questions, its that a lot of people want there to be only one answer to their question and they want it to be easy and something that they don’t have to think about and experiment with.

Example: What’s the best lure for stripers? They want someone to tell them what it is and how to fish it and they want that to work. They don’t want to hear that it depends on conditions, structure, current, etc. They don’t want to accept that it’s an ever changing thing even in a given spot and that they’re going to have to spend tons time and experience lots of failure in order to figure it out.

Questions and opinions (stress that opinions, not facts) offered in response to questions are great if they are taken, thought about, applied, evaluated, tweaked, applied, evaluated, etc.

IMHO the problem isn’t people asking questions, its people wanting it to be easy. Its not, and that has to be accepted and enjoyed or you should just pick something else to do with your time.

OffTheHook13 03-03-2008 03:29 PM

Did you know????:lm:

eelman 03-03-2008 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fishbones (Post 570699)
I learned from fishing with my father and grandfather. I certainly didn't learn to be a "sharpie", but I learned enough to go out and become addicted to fishing and have a lot of fun. I also learned by going into the local B&T's when I was old enough to drive myself around. When I joined this site, I was amazed at the knowledge a lot of the people here had, and I lurked and paid attention. I took information and used some of it and disregarded a lot of it. What I have learned most here is that a lot of people will be very helpful and gladly share things...especially if you contribute to the community here. I also learned that most people have opinions about what gear to use and what bait/lures to use. And, we all know what opinions are like. The best advice that I have picked up here though is to just go out and fish as much as you can. The internet is great and has tons of information, but there is no substitute for being out there experiencing it.

I understand people asking questions, but it's too often that someone signs up here and then starts threads about every aspect of striper fishing "what, when, where, why and how" under the sun. The search feature here will probably give most people enough information to keep them busy until the spring migration. Too many people want instant gratification and don't want to do the research or work themselves.

Maybe John R could set up the site so that new members could only start a thread if they had a certain # of posts under their belt? That way, they could really become familiar with the site and could contribute to threads started by other members.

Awesome post and said better than me! Exactly The everything under the sun stuff should be on another board and made a sticky or something, so you dont have to answer the same question 10 billion times...But good post

eelman 03-03-2008 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Clogston29 (Post 570702)
To me, the problem isn’t the asking of questions, its that a lot of people want there to be only one answer to their question and they want it to be easy and something that they don’t have to think about and experiment with.

Example: What’s the best lure for stripers? They want someone to tell them what it is and how to fish it and they want that to work. They don’t want to hear that it depends on conditions, structure, current, etc. They don’t want to accept that it’s an ever changing thing even in a given spot and that they’re going to have to spend tons time and experience lots of failure in order to figure it out.

Questions and opinions (stress that opinions, not facts) offered in response to questions are great if they are taken, thought about, applied, evaluated, tweaked, applied, evaluated, etc.

IMHO the problem isn’t people asking questions, its people wanting it to be easy. Its not, and that has to be accepted and enjoyed or you should just pick something else to do with your time.

Kind of what I said but get in trouble for, but basically I agree and its what I am saying in general...I said they ask the question multiple ways to get the answer that suits them

OffTheHook13 03-03-2008 03:38 PM

Maybe some of the newbs are trying to fit in.

Why criticize?

The whole purpose of these boards is to post BS.

Get you through the winter.

No need to try and make anyone feel like they are an idiot if they ask a question you may think is stupid.

eelman 03-03-2008 03:39 PM

All Barts investigative work shows is that I do infact help people the best I can...

bart 03-03-2008 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& (Post 570697)
You make no point at all

in one post you say that people should learn on their own and then in another you say you will tell people anything they want to know....i wouldn't exactly call that learning on your own. but in your world, two opposing statements tend to mean the same thing. :confused:

on another note, this is getting ridiculous. the people that bitch about the internet are the ones who profit the most from it. and the people saying that this site is going downhill are the same ones that are contributing to the downfall.

i personally love this site and i think John does a great job. it's the self proclaimed sharpies/internet heroes that are bringing it down IMHO

The Dad Fisherman 03-03-2008 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& (Post 570706)
so you dont have to answer the same question 10 billion times...But good post

Thats one of the points I'm trying to make....you don't HAVE to answer the same question 10 billion times....you can always just ignore it.

someone who wants to answer it is more than welcome to....

and the people that come here for instant gratification you can simply point them to the search feature..... and if they don't want to bother with that....once again nobody's twisting anybodies arm to answer their question.

and you can't realistically run a board where you won't let people ask questions....nobody will stick around a board like that.

Goose 03-03-2008 03:42 PM

If everything is cut and dry then there will be nothing to discuss and bitch about. I think a lot of the guys who"fished all their lives" won't admit it but they learn chit when all the new-bees ask and remind them of this and that. It seems like you wanna communicate and interact so much that it bugs you that its same questions that come up and you can't make them see it your way, hell i like putting in my .02 just as much as anyone else. If your sitting at your favorite tackle shop and some knew-bee asks an old or dumb question let some else answer.

eelman 03-03-2008 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bart (Post 154710)
this may sound like a stupid question, and i've already had it answered once by a knowlegable fisherman, but i just wanted some other opinions. i've never chummed herring before, this year i'm planning on doing so while throwing plugs. i have a mesh eel bag that i was going to load up with little chunks, tie to my wader belt, and then wade out there on the bar(most of you know where i'm talking about). is this a good idea? basically i wanna know if i should worry about sharks at all. i was told that they aren't many inshore species of shark and that the most i'd have to worry about would be gettting bumped by a big fish(this happened to me last season in the dead of night, freaked me out! but i've been thinking about it more because of the shark sightings last year. i was actually wading out there this past fall when they were seen, helicopters and boats everywhere. talked to a surfer that said he saw about six of em. for my own peace of mind what do y'all think. thanks in advance.

:lurk: Great question

OffTheHook13 03-03-2008 03:46 PM

Bottom line....

If you don't like it, don't read it.:thanks:

ThomCat 03-03-2008 03:46 PM

:rotflmao:Hang in there, Bill, winter's petering out and the cabin fever's going to start disapating. :cputin::lossinit:

eelman 03-03-2008 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ThomCat (Post 570718)
:rotflmao:Hang in there, Bill, winter's petering out and the cabin fever's going to start disapating. :cputin::lossinit:


:bl::bl:

I should be working with you soon:cputin:

well at least we have some chatter

bart 03-03-2008 03:50 PM

ok so what is your point. that was like my first post here 4 yrs ago.

and if anyone would like to read a nice piece on how to ruin your life by fishing check out #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s article on the SWE site. :rollem:

eelman 03-03-2008 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bart (Post 570720)
ok so what is your point. that was like my first post here 4 yrs ago.

and if anyone would like to read a nice piece on how to ruin your life by fishing check out #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s article on the SWE site. :rollem:

its on this site also, your so good at searching(better than fishing acuallly) I am surprised you missed that:hihi:

Its down in the articles section

chris L 03-03-2008 03:53 PM

hep me hep me hep me . Im on fire . hep me hep me

I only say stupid things never ask too many questions smart or stupid . Im not stupid Im with stupid .

now back to saturday night .
how many beers did I have ?

fishsmith 03-03-2008 03:55 PM

So what is better mono or braid? :faga: :rumble:

bart 03-03-2008 03:56 PM

....This is what PM's are for, Please

fishbones 03-03-2008 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fishsmith (Post 570725)
So what is better mono or braid? :faga: :rumble:

I'm not sure about braid, but I had mono in high school and it was awful. I missed the beginning of the baseball season because of it. My friends told me that chick was bad news, but I had to find out for myself.:sick:

chris L 03-03-2008 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fishsmith (Post 570725)
So what is better mono or braid? :faga: :rumble:

no right answer with out more info like where , when , why , how come , and do you lower the toilet seat .
we dont give info for freee . thats fity sent thank you

OffTheHook13 03-03-2008 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& (Post 570721)
its on this site also, your so good at searching(better than fishing acuallly) I am surprised you missed that:hihi:

Its down in the articles section

I wana read the article.

Where is it?

bart 03-03-2008 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bart (Post 570726)
....This is what PM's are for, Please

why was that edited? i basically quoted an article he wrote for the public to read on this site.

this is so lame. people need to grow some brass around here. people feel the same way as myself. i know this because i get Pms about this every time #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& starts spouting off or whenever i get together with other fisherman from the site. but no one has the balls to say it here. f'n lame. bring back Krispy!

Flaptail 03-03-2008 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fishaholic18 (Post 570692)
Really..:smokin:

Well I heard it on this site, so it's got to be true, maybe.

eelman 03-03-2008 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bart (Post 570733)
why was that edited? i basically quoted an article he wrote for the public to read on this site.

this is so lame. people need to grow some brass around here. people feel the same way as myself. i know this because i get Pms about this every time #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& starts spouting off or whenever i get together with other fisherman from the site. but no one has the balls to say it here. f'n lame. bring back Krispy!


Grow brass?? Krispy:musc::musc: only on the internet...Grow up

Take the others advice...You dont like what I post dont read it..Dont cry and ask for krispy to be the internet super hero of words...If you really get those pms...just post them right here in the open...Copy and paste is easy

fishaholic18 03-03-2008 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Flaptail (Post 570734)
Well I heard it on this site, so it's got to be true, maybe.

It must be then..I'll have to keep an eye on them..:scream:

OffTheHook13 03-03-2008 04:08 PM

WHAT ARTICLE

chris L 03-03-2008 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flaptail (Post 570675)
that women from Brockton, when they turn 30 grow hairy arms, mustaches and their butts blow up twice the original size.

Where else would you be able to go to get valuable info like that?

I hate when their butts blow up . gets really shi t ty really fast .

cough cough choke choke . ah there it is

fishaholic18 03-03-2008 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bart (Post 570733)
why was that edited? i basically quoted an article he wrote for the public to read on this site.

this is so lame. people need to grow some brass around here. people feel the same way as myself. i know this because i get Pms about this every time #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& starts spouting off or whenever i get together with other fisherman from the site. but no one has the balls to say it here. f'n lame. bring back Krispy!

Stop takin' sh!t personal bud...Lighten up and have some fun..That all comes with age I guess...:hihi:

The Dad Fisherman 03-03-2008 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bart (Post 570733)
why was that edited? i basically quoted an article he wrote for the public to read on this site.

this is so lame. people need to grow some brass around here. people feel the same way as myself. i know this because i get Pms about this every time #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& starts spouting off or whenever i get together with other fisherman from the site. but no one has the balls to say it here. f'n lame. bring back Krispy!

It was edited because you got personal,...if you want to have a conversation with #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& about it then that is what the PM's are for.

Slingah 03-03-2008 04:12 PM

this is b.s.
time to watch F-Troop....

eelman 03-03-2008 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 570743)
It was edited because you got personal,...if you want to have a conversation with #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& about it then that is what the PM's are for.


Glad the truth comes out...F18 Is right...grow up no one is making personal attacks here...He is right comes with age

bart 03-03-2008 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& (Post 570735)
Grow brass?? Krispy:musc::musc: only on the internet...Grow up

Take the others advice...You dont like what I post dont read it..Dont cry and ask for krispy to be the internet super hero of words...If you really get those pms...just post them right here in the open...Copy and paste is easy

i don't need to post them. you get the gist of it. "#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&'s full of %$%$%$%$, he's the biggest hypocrite on the web, internet hero," etc....

fishbones 03-03-2008 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OffTheHook13 (Post 570737)
WHAT ARTICLE

Go to the front page of the site, and go into the "Articles" section. It's waaaaaay down at the bottom, under all the sponsor pages.

By the way, John R. It's nice how all of the sponsors have their owns sections now. Much easier to look for specific things.:btu:

eelman 03-03-2008 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bart (Post 570747)
i don't need to post them. you get the gist of it. "#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&'s full of %$%$%$%$, he's the biggest hypocrite on the web, internet hero," etc....

grow up...now go change your diapers...your getting to worked up and you have no clue what your talking about..how can you or anyone call someone something when you have never even met them...is that how you were braught up ?of did you learn that from the grand "Jedi master" of the net

striperman36 03-03-2008 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Flaptail (Post 570675)
I found out that spinning rod and reel combos make you grow breasts and that if your 6'-6" tall the real dilemma when buying waders is not if they are breathable or neoprene but where the crotch of the wader is as opposed to your own that make them the best for you and that women from Brockton, when they turn 30 grow hairy arms, mustaches and their butts blow up twice the original size.

Where else would you be able to go to get valuable info like that?


I've seen both of these happen

The Dad Fisherman 03-03-2008 04:19 PM

All Done...If bossman wants to re-open he can...but its hit rock-bottom

JohnR 03-03-2008 10:00 PM

If I was reading it earlier I would probably close it too. I think everyone needs to lighten up a little here.

This is supposed be parts fun, educational, funny and interesting. When people make it un-fun, un-educational, un-funny, and un-interesting - it really makes it "un-worth" doing...


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