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FishTwoO 07-23-2008 11:21 AM

Alllow only three or four to be sold per day,maybe open sale days every other or every third day for out of staters.

likwid 07-23-2008 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FishTwoO (Post 607044)
Alllow only three or four to be sold per day,maybe open sale days every other or every third day for out of staters.

So they high grade and only sell the big ones out of the freezer and hock the rest at the local chinese food joint.

Which is pretty much what they do already...

Flaptail 07-23-2008 11:27 AM

Make it a gamefish with no sale! You can always pump gas or serve burgers at McTomaines for xtra cash!

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! :devil2::hidin:

likwid 07-23-2008 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Flaptail (Post 607051)
Make it a gamefish with no sale! You can always pump gas or serve burgers at McTomaines for xtra cash!

Well when there's no more fish then where are all the "oh i do it to offset my gas costs" comms gonna get their money?

And yes, I'd like fries with that.

Crafty Angler 07-23-2008 12:11 PM

Christ, I always thought this was a winter sport - guess the season is going long this year :rolleyes:

GattaFish 07-23-2008 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Crafty Angler (Post 607060)
Christ, I always thought this was a winter sport - guess the season is going long this year :rolleyes:


:agree::agree::agree: :rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:

Clammer 07-23-2008 12:26 PM

The Mass quota is/was based on [OLD] landings >>> which were made up by a good percentage of Ri Anglers /selling in mass // otherwise the Mass quota wouldn,t be 30 fish on the days that,s its open & the 5 on sunday ;;

many moons ago > you just caught fish & sold them /only restricting was they had to be 16"
you didn,t need a commercial license in either state ;;

NOW {{ MASS }} still allows you to get a license // to anyone one from any state / one reason there are approx 6000 mass commercials ;;
In RI you CAN>T get a Commercial license to catch anything .......
they have one lincense available / which allows you to catch /some no value fish //bluefish . dabs, etc.

SOOOOOOOOOO its not just the Mass commercials that can,t get the license /its ANYBODY .>>>>>>>>>
the only way to get a RI license is >..supposely if 3 or 4 are not renewed in a given year the state mat opt to open one >..even though I,ve never heard of it ::
The other way is to buy a guys business / boat / pots , etc &&&& only if he has enough landings ;;

there are hundreds of fisherman who are kicking themselves in the ass for not keeping their licenses during the mo[SP} not just R/R but mainly shellfisherman ;;

Also RI season is a joke / it open is open 5 days a week w/a 5 fish limit stating in june / &&&&&&& every year the state of RI closes it early //[this year] less than two weeks / because the estimate that we are nearing the quota // [f%^&*() guessestimate

Then they open for 3 days around labor day ...with only a 3 fish limit && then close again 7 open sometime in october with either a 3 or 5 fish limit & THAT DEPENDS if the fish god got laid the nite before ;; &&&&&&&&&&& In the last 3 seasons / the RI limit was not reached by R/R .. the let the traps & draggers finish it off ;;


With this being said .. Mass has the larger quota thanks to many old time RI commercial fisherman & the mass commercial season is a f $%^&*()&^ zoo because the state lets anyone with the money become a commercial fisherman ;;

take all the fish solf in the RI & Mass commercial seasons && it doesn,t equal #^&#^&#^&#^&-%$%$%$%$ to the by-catch kill/rec >.take home & bucket brigrade ;;
add the slaughter that goes on down south in the winter fishery ....... & this whole thread isn,t a drop in the f $%^&*()(*& bucket >:wid:

Flaptail 07-23-2008 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Clammer (Post 607064)
The Mass quota is/was based on [OLD] landings >>> which were made up by a good percentage of Ri Anglers /selling in mass // otherwise the Mass quota wouldn,t be 30 fish on the days that,s its open & the 5 on sunday ;;

many moons ago > you just caught fish & sold them /only restricting was they had to be 16"
you didn,t need a commercial license in either state ;;

NOW {{ MASS }} still allows you to get a license // to anyone one from any state / one reason there are approx 6000 mass commercials ;;
In RI you CAN>T get a Commercial license to catch anything .......
they have one lincense available / which allows you to catch /some no value fish //bluefish . dabs, etc.

SOOOOOOOOOO its not just the Mass commercials that can,t get the license /its ANYBODY .>>>>>>>>>
the only way to get a RI license is >..supposely if 3 or 4 are not renewed in a given year the state mat opt to open one >..even though I,ve never heard of it ::
The other way is to buy a guys business / boat / pots , etc &&&& only if he has enough landings ;;

there are hundreds of fisherman who are kicking themselves in the ass for not keeping their licenses during the mo[SP} not just R/R but mainly shellfisherman ;;

Also RI season is a joke / it open is open 5 days a week w/a 5 fish limit stating in june / &&&&&&& every year the state of RI closes it early //[this year] less than two weeks / because the estimate that we are nearing the quota // [f%^&*() guessestimate

Then they open for 3 days around labor day ...with only a 3 fish limit && then close again 7 open sometime in october with either a 3 or 5 fish limit & THAT DEPENDS if the fish god got laid the nite before ;; &&&&&&&&&&& In the last 3 seasons / the RI limit was not reached by R/R .. the let the traps & draggers finish it off ;;


With this being said .. Mass has the larger quota thanks to many old time RI commercial fisherman & the mass commercial season is a f $%^&*()&^ zoo because the state lets anyone with the money become a commercial fisherman ;;

take all the fish solf in the RI & Mass commercial seasons && it doesn,t equal #^&#^&#^&#^&-%$%$%$%$ to the by-catch kill/rec >.take home & bucket brigrade ;;
add the slaughter that goes on down south in the winter fishery ....... & this whole thread isn,t a drop in the f $%^&*()(*& bucket >:wid:

:rtfm:Truer words have yet to be spoken! Add piss to the right and Mikey nailed it.

Hey Mike, hope your doing okay! Kill a bluefish for me, we haven't seen that many up this way ( don't want to make you jealous or anything but I have only caught four all season so far!)

JohnR 07-23-2008 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Flaptail (Post 607074)
:rtfm:Truer words have yet to be spoken! Add piss to the right and Mikey nailed it.

Err, that's kinda what I was trying to say but I wasn't as detailed, clear, or eloquent as Clammer :lama::fishslap: :hee:

animal 07-23-2008 02:59 PM

Just to add a little clarity on a point that was skirted around.As far as reciprocity goes,there are NO NEW PERMITS in RI.It doesn't matter if you're from RI,Mass,or South Dakota.

Mike P 07-23-2008 03:35 PM

With all due respect MIke--historical landing figures are just someone's best guess. As many New Yorkers as Rhode Islanders fished Mass. No one was licensed, no catch figures were ever accurately recorded, most of the bass was shipped to Fulton Fish market, and guessing what the distribution was among Mass/RI/NY/CT/anywhere else.....:huh:

Clammer 07-23-2008 04:48 PM

MIKE

your right .. the NY boys did a number in the surf on the cape //

what I meant was , Mass, RI, NY or Conn fishmen sold most of thire fish to mass dealers . the guys fishing the outer cape .. really had no rational choice / && I., pretty sure CoNn had already started to stop the sale of bass in that state & we in RI .it was strictly a finincial [sp] move . Mass was paying much higher than RI .
you could go to Spooners in westport & get good money & wait for the check && then many of us got nailed by the IRS .. or you could go to N/B & get paid less /but got paid on the spot ;
So when they were figuring out the quota,s //mass was way high to some degree of the infux of fish caught out of state & sold in Mass>>>
&&&&&&&& ya had to piss to the right >><><

FishTwoO 07-23-2008 04:53 PM

Re; the original question.The Fisherman Mag. Under Snug Harbor reports two guys with a hefty catch from the Vineyard 40,41,45,48,49,52,and 53.Are they the same guys or is it just a coincidence?

Jenn 07-23-2008 05:33 PM

SOOOOOOO....Who was it already!!?????

Clammer 07-23-2008 06:10 PM

Fish2

I havn,t read that yet / but I,ll bet my rig /those arn,t MAss BAss ....... many of the mass commercials are fluking .. the bass have been WAAAAAAAY off ><><><

likwid 07-23-2008 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Clammer (Post 607064)
add the slaughter that goes on down south in the winter fishery ....... & this whole thread isn,t a drop in the f $%^&*()(*& bucket >:wid:

It doesn't matter how many or how few.

Someone has to take a stand somewhere.

If you're just gonna sit back with the "well everyone else is doing it" excuse then you're just another part of the problem.

Mr. Sandman 07-23-2008 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P (Post 606876)
but I suspect that there are more than a few RI fish hitting the Mass markets since our season opened :doh:


ya think? I don't understand the logic in this ruling. They can fish in our season but we can't sell into there's? MA DMF is F'ed up.

If you saw how much RI bunker is dumped into Gay Head waters you would be amazed...truck loads....every comm day.

Mr. Sandman 07-23-2008 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Clammer (Post 607198)
Fish2

I havn,t read that yet / but I,ll bet my rig /those arn,t MAss BAss ....... many of the mass commercials are fluking .. the bass have been WAAAAAAAY off ><><><


It's waaaay off cause they have been pounding the same spots HARD for years! ...Commer'l guys just don't get it. Some have the gaul to complain about the fishing. Gimmeabreak I spoke to a comm lobersterman who was whining about how poor the lobsters are and wants to double the number of pots he has....I asked him...do you think that will solve the problem?...He said, that will solve MY problem. Herein lies the real problem.

Sea Dangles 07-23-2008 07:55 PM

Many RI anglers will fish MA for fluke and then move right on for bass. The angler is a member of team striper in the OTW contest. I think the 56# will squeak into the top 10. That combined with another members' recent shore caught 48# should put us in good position for now.

FishTwoO 07-23-2008 08:20 PM

Sea Dangles, That should make Bruce happy!

FishTwoO 07-23-2008 08:24 PM

Oh Ya,Can't you at least give the initals.DF,RJ,BGWho then?

Slipknot 07-23-2008 08:36 PM

I'm confused now, was it 76 pounds or 56 pounds?

I guess maybe this thread strayed off course.

maybe Greg was just yanking us a bit

J-golden 07-23-2008 09:09 PM

so, now we got people bragging about catching the same fish in two different states. that block island has some big fish.....

inTHERAPY 07-24-2008 10:40 AM

Wow has this rumor/story grown. Last week @ said fish house I am told by a worker of a nice catch of 17 fish, 3 over 50#, with a 42 # average. Now it's 30 fish 76# whopper. Fish stories. If that catch is real and from the Vineyard, fantastic catch of big fish doing what few/no others are doing right now. Can't wait to see who the angler(s) is. Team Striper is kickin ass. Art

Mike P 07-24-2008 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 607238)
Many RI anglers will fish MA for fluke and then move right on for bass. The angler is a member of team striper in the OTW contest. I think the 56# will squeak into the top 10. That combined with another members' recent shore caught 48# should put us in good position for now.

Unless things pick up for our North Shore members, I'd say you guys are in a good position, period. ;)

Especially if you keep paying off those sharks to chop TOs fish when he's with you guys :laugha:

Got Stripers 07-24-2008 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BobT (Post 606872)
Not to change the subject, guess I did, but is Bob Sirois still alive and around? Sorry.

Yeah I'm still around, but you wouldn't see me weighing in any large. First I don't have a commercial license, I've never felt I wanted to contribute to the decline of the fishery. I keep my fair share of the small keepers for the grille throughout the season, but the larger breeders I release. The exception might be if it were state record size, that old girl probably isn't breeding and that's a fish I think everyone keeps.

I don't post much anymore, I don't have the free time I used to and what's the point; some things just don't ever change.

Slipknot 07-24-2008 11:55 AM

Hi Bob:wave:
I can coroborate however you spell that, that Bob does indeed release the breaders and he is alive, last time we fished he pulls up to a spot and bangs a 30 pounder first cast while I get bluefished :hs:
Thanks again for that trip Bob, I hope you had a good vacation fishing with your brother in law.
Let's go again sometime

Crafty Angler 07-24-2008 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 607420)
Yeah I'm still around, but you wouldn't see me weighing in any large. First I don't have a commercial license, I've never felt I wanted to contribute to the decline of the fishery. I keep my fair share of the small keepers for the grille throughout the season, but the larger breeders I release. The exception might be if it were state record size, that old girl probably isn't breeding and that's a fish I think everyone keeps.

I don't post much anymore, I don't have the free time I used to and what's the point; some things just don't ever change.

Hi Bob :wave:

Good to see ya around, glad to hear you're still above ground :hihi:

WoodyCT 07-24-2008 03:23 PM

Mass Quota for 2008?
 
Just found this info about the 2007 Mass comm. fishing for stripers on the ASMFC site:

Massachusetts 34” min.
Hook & line only
998,063 lb. Quota
7.12 until quota reached
5 fish on Sun, 30 fish/day Tues-Thurs

What is the 2008 quota?

Thanks,

Woody

striperman36 07-24-2008 03:27 PM

1.1 million lbs
Its on the DMF
http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dmf/comme...ndex.htm#frame

WoodyCT 07-24-2008 03:36 PM

Got it
 
Thanks
W

BobT 07-24-2008 03:46 PM

Good to hear you're still alive and kicking Bob. I'm still enjoying the hell out of that rod.:thanks: The kid still has a large tote of your rubber that we still use.

Clammer 07-24-2008 05:18 PM

all kids should use rubbers ><><:lurk:

FishTwoO 07-25-2008 03:54 PM

Looks like we have to wait till next week to see who the luckey angler was.OTW is a week behind in their postings for the Striper Cup??????

BMEUPSCOTTY 07-25-2008 04:00 PM

Looks like they updated today. We were bumped to 6th, risaa didn't move, and team striper extended their lead. no sign of a 70 yet.http://img200.exs.cx/img200/7135/eyebrow1qb.gif

Green Light 07-25-2008 07:07 PM

The word "avarice" comes to mind.
"Take only what you need."


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