Drugs....

lol
 

how do you get Bush for two tours, asks NIB


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you have the best replies to most threads out here!

I say legalize it, its not worse that booze. I cant say it has no downside, I have seen a lot of friends waste there lives away in front of the tube doing bong hits all day. But I guess I have seen worse with alcohol.

Zero evidence that pot is dangerous, no matter the strain.

But I suppose if falling over passed out is dangerous, then you're right. :hihi:

agreed likwid
 

actually inhaling smoke (of any kind) which is a form of dust and not much different then real fine sawdust, can clog the lungs.... which is an obvious conclusion... and no offense meant

but on the other hand the new method of zero smoke vaporizer's
solves that problem....not that i have ever tried one... :huh:

what most people don't realize however is that the compound in cannabis called "canabinoids" is also produced by the human body
for the purpose of pain relief, which is sorta why it's as harmless
as it is physically.:uhuh:

OxyContin bust nets 56 Miami-Dade government employees
 

LEGAL drugs are more destructive than alcohol
yet they are all LEGAL ....

alcohol is killing people every single day

yet herb is illegal

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/06/...ing/index.html

I heard a story once that when Dupont invented nylon, they lobbied DC hard to make pot illegal and funded 'reefer madness'.. the movie that painted the picture of herb as an evil drug.

the reason?? Nylon was perfect for making rope.. Hemp rope was the most popular and cheapest rope at the time and Nylon could not compete...
or so the story goes.

I could use some right now.:smokin:

Got any? :tooth:

hemp..... alone could solve the ENERGY crisis....

it isn't even the variety of Cannabis Sativa that produces
cannabinol in sufficient amounts to obtain a "high"

even though it was reported that in the old days
Sailors were known to burn ends of the rope.

the quality of the OIL contained within the seed
however is perfect for making biofuel or a diesel
substitute and AMERICAN farmers would have a crop
to grow "to achieve energy independence overnight"

but the politicians can't seem to pull their collective
heads out of the sand or their ASS to see that.

not to mention that hemp fiber could completely
transform the clothing industry and has countless other
material applications...

BIG oil doesn't want hemp to be re-instated as a
viable resource.....because where as corn can supplement
their petroleum products...in the form of ethanol

the legalization of hemp
could essentially put them out of business.

keep on makin 1500 bucks per second you bastards :af:

Hemp has nothing to do with marijuana.

http://naihc.org/hemp_information/content/hemp.mj.html

reading that page

the main thing to note is
quote
Instead the DEA, unlike its predecessor, the Bureau of Narcotics, is aggressively trying to persuade
Americans that hemp and marijuana are identical plants. We can speculate about the reasons.
The results are widespread confusion and the inability of America's farmers and manufacturers to take
part in the worldwide resurgence of hemp cultivation and use.

Blame the REGAN's and or big oil companies lobbyists

also there is no mention anywhere that i saw, anything that would suggest that hemp seed
would be a good source of bio fuel... it was purely a distinction of
hemp has no THC
and cannabis sativa does...

For all intent and purpose marijuana has been decriminalized. At the most in court an offender gets a $50.00 or a $100.00 fine and it is dismissed. The only thing left to do to make it completely decriminalized is to put to form a citation that can be issued for mere possesion.

You know, all of the pro-pot sentiment here is just fine. Buy not everyone stays homes and eats twinkies and chips when high. Some people can't seems to stay out of the driver's seat and thats is what worries most people who don't smoke. There is no scientific way to determine what amount of marijuana use places someone who is actively smoking it while driving "under the influance." Any marijuana usage places the smoker "under the influance." And there is somewhat of an oxymoron involved here, which is, to smoke pot is to get high. So you get high before you get in the car and then travel say to a movie theatre or eatery to have dinner or watch a movie, or just go to and from the 7-11 to buy 12 bags of doritos. I don't know how that is any safer than drinking alcohol and driving. What is the difference?

Smoking marijuana isn't any different than smoking cigarettes. They both are carcinogens and cause cancer.

If you pull over a person with a bag of pot, don't they get arrested, get their name in the paper, and get their car towed?

The smoking part is the bad thing about it. Any type of smoking is bad for you.

But, did you know, that by town ordinance in Provincetown ( of course) it's legal to possess an oz. or less? Course the state laws supersede it.

I heard they enacted that law because people there enjoyed a body cavity search.

nobody is saying to legalize stoned driving. you can have legal pot and still have dui laws. just like we have leagal booze and dui laws.

that would not make it completely decriminalized. no, the only thing left to do is to legalize it, tax it, and sell it in stores to people over 21.

YES, THERE IS A LARGE DIFFERENCE
nicotinic acid is the only bug pesticide that will kill
the cotton destroying big bo weval lol Hi big bo :wave:

that being that cigarettes contain Nicotine and about
90 other chemicals used to make tobacco taste better,
smoke smoother.... and all that baloney

where as weed has NO nicotine ...in it...
it does contain tar...
the only plant containing nicotine is tobacco period

i won't argue about the fact that
smoking is bad for human lungs
because after all as i have said previously
what is smoke...? but super fine dust...
dust clogs lung tissue... no question about it.

It will be great when it's legal for the firefighter, EMT, truck driver or anyone else to get stoned the morning before showing up for work and it's all legal. It's going to be great when your kid is smoking pot on the deck all the time and it's all legal. I see the brilliant group that shows up for the legalize pot rallies now. Ya' it's going to be a much better America once we can all get high. I can hardly wait to hire some pot heads. Production should go through the roof.

where are you living? everybody that wants to get stoned is already getting stoned.

and i'm not sure how legalizing pot would make it legal for emt, truck driver, etc.. to go to work stoned.

They shouldn't be going to work Drunk....or stoned. Legal or not.

And its illegal to operate a motor vehicle while impaired...whether its on a legal substance or an illegal substance.

If that happens then its my fault as a parent for not making sure he knows what substance abuse is about...whether it be a legal substances or not....I'd feel the same if he were just sitting around s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g down a case of bud every day.

Ummmm, in case you haven't noticed we pretty much already can....if we so choose to. The key is to make the choice NOT to....at least when we go to work, or drive our cars.

OK to hire drunks then I guess.....no stigma there :rollem:


any substance, whether it be legal, illegal, or prescription will be abused if a person so chooses to. Hell, we have to put sudafed behind the counter nowadays and get carded when we buy spray paint.

People have been trying to alter their reality one way or another since the dawn of man, why weed is so evil for us but drinking a case of bud light should get me laid (It's true isn't it, that's what the advertisers tell me at least) is the most hypocritcal reasoning I have ever heard.

Ever heard of a safety meeting? :hihi:

And truck drivers?
You mean speed/meth junkies?

Is there any way for a police officer to know how much pot someone has smoked (or whether they have smoked at all) before the person got behind the wheel? With alcohol, they can do a breathalizer. Also, some people may smoke a small amount and be perfectly fine, but they smell like Cheech Marin. How do you decide if they are "too stoned" to operate a vehicle?

I had one the other night. She wouldn't give him money from the food funds to go buy a bag so he beat her. Don't tell me guys and gals don't get cranky while high.

No sometimes they get what they have on them confiscated and summons into court.

well said TDF

huh
 

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I don't know about putting it up there next to the Marlboros - just don't cite or bust people for it. If people want to grow some - I don't see a problem with that either.
If people smoke pot and become unproductive, fire them. Then there will be greater opportunities for people who make better lifestyle choices.
We should be able reduce the size of the DEA, Coast Guard, and law enforcement overall.
Greater personal responsibilty and smaller government.

Good question? I'm sure we will have a good answer from the pro-drug side. They have all the answers.

The test would be to sing Iron Butterfly's Inagoda Divida.. the better you do it..

Unfortunately - in the age of systemic policy failure - you get to a point where you don't need answers.
Just a promise of change will suffice.

Well put Zacs. People are going to do it anyway's I'm not sure putting it in stores will really help "society" that much.

I actually spent some time where it was legal. Amsterdam in 2002. I could honestly careless about what people do on there own but I'll admit didn't like seeing it legal and promoted. I didn't like seeing the Prostitution out and about either by the way.

If I walk by 10 guys pounding beers or walk by 10 guys passing around a splif I think the later would be less likely to act like a bunch of as&$&LE IMO.

I'm not....:(

keep it that way.. otherwise you will be voting for obama :hihi:

next stop...Psilocybin mushrooms

"Today pot, tomorrow heroin!"

Seriously, give it a rest.
Its apples and oranges.

Gonna quote Reefer Madness next?

I was being sarcastic...

...and as far as mushroom mtn is concerned, its natures finest psychotherapy, but be forewarned for this distinctive form of therapy is not for everybody. Really puts those cliche aphorisms like seeing is believing to the test.

My bad then.

DON'T WATCH PEARL HARBOR
I REPEAT.
DO NOT WATCH IT.
Towards the end they're on the carrier deck and the ocean is amazingly technicolor blue.

I repeat.
Technicolor bluuuuuuuue. :spin:

Spiritual Effects of Hallucinogens Persist, Johns Hopkins Researchers Report




Johns Hopkins Medicine

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July 1, 2008

In a follow-up to research showing that psilocybin, a substance
contained in "sacred mushrooms," produces substantial spiritual
effects, a Johns Hopkins team reports that those beneficial effects
appear to last more than a year.

Writing in the Journal of Psychopharmacology, the Johns Hopkins
researchers note that most of the 36 volunteer subjects given
psilocybin, under controlled conditions in a Hopkins study published
in 2006, continued to say 14 months later that the experience
increased their sense of well-being or life satisfaction.

"Most of the volunteers looked back on their experience up to 14
months later and rated it as the most, or one of the five most,
personally meaningful and spiritually significant of their lives,"
says lead investigator Roland Griffiths, Ph.D., a professor in the
Johns Hopkins departments of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences and
Neuroscience.

In a related paper, also published in the Journal of
Psychopharmacology, researchers offer recommendations for conducting
this type of research.

The guidelines caution against giving hallucinogens to people at risk
for psychosis or certain other serious mental disorders. Detailed
guidance is also provided for preparing participants and providing
psychological support during and after the hallucinogen experience.
These "best practices" contribute both to safety and to the
standardization called for in human research.

"With appropriately screened and prepared individuals, under
supportive conditions and with adequate supervision, hallucinogens
can be given with a level of safety that compares favorably with many
human research and medical procedures," says that paper's lead
author, Mathew W. Johnson, Ph.D., a psychopharmacologist and
instructor in the Johns Hopkins Department of Psychiatry and
Behavioral Sciences.

The two reports follow a 2006 study published in another journal,
Psychopharmacology, in which 60 percent of a group of 36 healthy,
well-educated volunteers with active spiritual lives reported having
a "full mystical experience" after taking psilocybin. {See
http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/Press.../07_11_06.html }

Psilocybin, a plant alkaloid, exerts its influence on some of the
same brain receptors that respond to the neurotransmitter serotonin.
Mushrooms containing psilocybin have been used in some cultures for
hundreds of years or more for religious, divinatory and healing purposes.

Fourteen months later, Griffiths re-administered the questionnaires
used in the first study -- along with a specially designed set of
follow-up questions -- to all 36 subjects. Results showed that about
the same proportion of the volunteers ranked their experience in the
study as the single most, or one of the five most, personally
meaningful or spiritually significant events of their lives and
regarded it as having increased their sense of well-being or life satisfaction.

"This is a truly remarkable finding," Griffiths says. "Rarely in
psychological research do we see such persistently positive reports
from a single event in the laboratory. This gives credence to the
claims that the mystical-type experiences some people have during
hallucinogen sessions may help patients suffering from cancer-related
anxiety or depression and may serve as a potential treatment for drug
dependence. We're eager to move ahead with that research."

Griffiths also notes that, "while some of our subjects reported
strong fear or anxiety for a portion of their day-long psilocybin
sessions, none reported any lingering harmful effects, and we didn't
observe any clinical evidence of harm."

The research team cautions that if hallucinogens are used in less
well-supervised settings, the possible fear or anxiety responses
could lead to harmful behaviors.

These studies were funded by grants from NIDA, the Council on
Spiritual Practices, and the Heffter Research Institute.

Additional researchers who contributed to this work include Matthew
W. Johnson, Ph.D. and Una D. McCann, M.D. of the Department of
Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, Johns Hopkins University School
of Medicine; psychologist William A. Richards of the Johns Hopkins
Bayview Medical Center; and Robert Jesse of the Council on Spiritual
Practices, San Francisco.

OOOOOPS::

I heard that the scouts in Massachusetts @ camp when tending the gardens >ARE really caring for the {GRASS}

&& at crafts class they are learning the art of different forms of rolling paper & the craft that comes with it ...:wavey::angel: