The religeous right is more tolerant then you give them credit. They will welcome her daughters decision and commend the young man for taking responsability.

Yet the religious right went out of their freaking minds about Gloucester.

You can't have it both ways.

You should be out of your freaking mind about Gloucester.

Wow, is this what you've degraded to? C'mon man, come up with a reasonable response.
And they're not my kids. Its not my problem.

funny how alot of you are stating that its nobody's business but her and her family's and why are the Dems bringing this out and the liberal media yada yada yada

I thought the same thing about a certain president getting a hummer from a certain intern....didn't think it was anybody's business but his and his wife's....but that got slung across the news for weeks on end.

This is the reason you will NEVER have a good presidential candidate again...no one with any common sense would put themselves and their families through this

It is when the hummer becomes a distraction for a nation and a risk to national security taht makes it news. I think at the time we could have had Osama from Sudan. And what the President does in the White House (and the judgement it showed) and what a 17 year old kid in Alaska does, is not quite the same. I wonder if any of the canadates or their immediate family, had unprotected sex before they were 18. Besides Obama's Mama.

Spoken like a true Liberal. Their the goverments problem:bshake:

No, they're the parents problem since they're minors.
Jesus, have some personal responsibility.

This sadly cracks me up.

As I sit on the fence that runs between Dems and 'Pubs I see vast seas of people on both sides launching arrows, mooning each other, spit balls and reading talking points from the Scritpers on both sides. I realize a few things:

I love America

I wish we would grow the bleep up.

OK, 'nuff said, back to our regularly scheduled program; "Is Palin's unborn grandchild really a surrogate son? Tune into CNN at 9 for the latest. Afterward, Larry King interviews the Personal Trainer for the Uncle of the next President (pending elections), Barry Obama with leaking news that VP candidate of the loosing party (pending elections) Sarah Palin is actually a cousin to President (pending elections), Barry Obama, several generations removed..."

FOX News will be next

It only became a distraction because certain individuals spent millions of dollars trying to prove it instead of just saying "Yikes, I'd hate to be him when Hillary finds out" and moving on.

personally I think that it has nothing to do with Liberals vesus Wingers....its just one group of childish a-holes trying to make another group of childish a-holes look bad. They're like a bunch of Prep-school cheerleaders.

They ALL play the same crap and its pretty friggin disheartening.



....and a risk to national security, give me a break, what, was there microfilm hidden in that cigar.

Is this the best our country can do, on both sides... its depressing

Please return your basket to its upright and locked position.

I think Obama handled it the right way. The media pounced, on both sides, and it wasn't right.

What it does raise, is any middle of the road people with mixed feelings or no opinion on abortion, is that if McCain/Palin is elected and appoint the judges they want, then another parent or child in the same situation as Palin's daughter will have less options down the road. I'm not for abortion as birth control, but the choice and option should be there. Not every 17y/o is ready for kids and marriage!

you guys confuse the religious right with the repub party. Thats like saying the pink army (or whatever those berkely cooks are) are representative of the Dems.
How is this an ethical issue? Who lied about it? How do you know what her parents preached? The daughter is old enough for the age of consent, made her decision and now has to live with it. What I preach is ACCOUNTABILITY, don't make me pay for the support of that child.

So it looks like we have a woman with a bunch of kids, one on the way to Iraq, one with Down Syndrome, one pregnant. Sounds like you cant find someone more in touch with America than that!

I can care less, but he lied under oath in a case against him by another woman he was banging. That I have an issue with as a President and a lawyer.

Of course, Bristol Palin is not the first vice-presidential child to be pregnant out of wedlock. That honor goes to Mary Cheney. (Perhaps this is something the GOP vetting committee looks for?)

But at least Bristol is allowed to get married!!

Actually from a strategy perspective, looks like this may have been a brillinat choice by McCain
ST. PAUL, Minnesota (CNN) -- Key evangelical leaders rallied to Sarah Palin's support Monday amid news that her 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, was having a child.


Sarah Palin confirmed Monday that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant.

"Before, they were excited about her, with the Down syndrome baby," conservative, anti-tax activist Grover Norquist said. "But now with this, they are over the moon. It reinforces the fact that this family lives its pro-life values."

And completely ignore her ABSTINENCE ONLY stance that she is ADAMANT about.

Worked great for her family!

Those evangelicals all come from that uptight town in Footloose.

This would be a non issue with most liberals. They would have aborted this baby long ago.

um... no.

According to who?

agreed, no.

They would have the baby, blame society for their problem, go on welfare and then have more children with different fathers. :angel:

Good to see people here are no better than those on 'that other site'.

what other site?
You are constantly poking at the extreme of the right wing, can't take a little of it back?

Is she pretty:love:

Oh I can take it, its just getting tiring.

Come on. Lying in a deposition? As a lawyer you should know better. When was the last time you remember anyone being prosecuted for perjury arising out of a deposition in a civil lawsuit? I'm no big fan of Slick Willie, but to waste all that money on a political show trial, where the outcome was a foregone conclusion, was more of a crime than what Cigar Boy did. The GOP knew that there was no way in hell that 2/3rds of the Senate would ever vote to convict and remove him from office. But they went ahead tilting at windmills--why? To damage a lame duck President who was within 2 years of the end of his term? Wasn't McCain one of the few Republicans who voted to acquit, after all?

"The adversarial system rests on the naive assumption that out of the battle of lies, the truth will somehow emerge". Not my quote, but it sums it up pretty well.

Absinth (?) would be a good start.

What I love is that the comparisons are being made between her as VP, and Obama as President.
I heard an analogy that made me laugh, regarding this type of comapring and debating:
"I'll let you sprain my 2nd string quarterback's throwing are if I can do the same to your starting quarterback."
As for her being the breadwinner, I believe she and her husband started their own fishing business before she went into politics.
We don't need to rehash the "experience" angle any further, do we?

Mike - sorry, I meant Clinton as lawyer, I am not a lawyer.

Very late 80's goth. Sparks maybe.

No, they didn't start their own fishing business.
Its her husband's family's boats.

Seriously the speculation about that is out of control and she's got Bristol Bay in her crosshairs to SCREW UP.

I wish you could step back and see how you and Nebe look.

You first.

ok, I'll play nice...

I just read this - "Palin Supported Penalties for Using Skateboards on Public or Private Property in Wasilla."

Ouch, that will piss off abut 45% of Obama's supporters :laugha::laugha::laugha:

46% now
I urban freeride.
Yes, mtn bike built for it, disc brakes, partial body armor and full face helmet.

Concrete effing hurts.

Private property, thats fine with me. But banning it from public property when responsible/there at off hours, thats crap.

Sounds like one of my in-laws. She is no liberal, but she is from Brockton.

remember that about 60% of what I post is serious..
oh look a chicken!

True. Welfare recipients are largely apolitical as a voting block, though they characterize themselves as democrats - they tend not to show up on election day.
The "Liberal Elite" and the "East Coast Establishment" are not on welfare - they have education, jobs and their fingers on the buttons of most of our institutions - otherwise they would not be elite or part of the establishment.
Not all democrats are liberals. Just like not all conservatives are evangelicals.

Kool-aid ???
Maybe they are smoking from the same crack pipe Obama used !!!

That's just a little needling. Jim Jones got over 900 people to commit suicide in Jonestown approx 30 years ago. His followers believed him to be a prophet or messiah.

I see some of Obama's followers thinking like Jones "flock".