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Nebe 09-06-2008 06:52 PM

Your no fool Buckman. This country is so divided right now, no matter who wins, there is going to be a lot of pissed off people.

spence 09-06-2008 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 618083)
If Obama gets in with party in charge and he is able to appoint any justice they want, unchallanged, we will be screwed. And that damage could last a generation or more and do more harm to this country then you can imagine. And that alone will prevent me from ever putting one party in charge of everything.

Bush did everything he could to stack the courts to the Right, so I'd have no issue with some moderation on the bench. The courts above all should be as neutral as possible, and yes I understand that how I worded that is a loaded statement.

And I agree on your second point, even arguing to some friends that a vote for McCain might be prudent simply to keep balance with the most likely very Democratic US Congress. This assumes of course that we actually get the "old" McCain who's apt to bridge party lines in favor of pragmatism, vs the "new" McCain who would owe a might debt to the far Right for getting him elected.

-spence

buckman 09-06-2008 08:03 PM

Do you guys kbnow how many Justices will be apointed by the next President. I think it's 3 but I may be wrong. If it is three and Obama picks them then we are heading down a path of socialism. I trust McCain to pick more moderate justices and the Dems will not pass anyone who is too radical right.

Nebe. We're agreeing on way to much lately, knock it off

spence 09-06-2008 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 618124)
Do you guys kbnow how many Justices will be apointed by the next President. I think it's 3 but I may be wrong. If it is three and Obama picks them then we are heading down a path of socialism. I trust McCain to pick more moderate justices and the Dems will not pass anyone who is too radical right.

No, and that is probably a good thing. I liked Roberts as he looked like the real deal, but Alito was a bit of a sham.

Remember there are three branches of government for a reason, and it would take many, many consistent Adminstrations to really lead us very far down that path. Even Obama with a Dem Congress wouldn't lead to socialism. It may lead to some liberal legislation but this is a pretty tough country and some of it may actually be a good thing.

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Nebe. We're agreeing on way to much lately, knock it off
It's like you have your hand on his thigh.

-spence

Nebe 09-06-2008 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 618124)
Do you guys kbnow how many Justices will be apointed by the next President. I think it's 3 but I may be wrong. If it is three and Obama picks them then we are heading down a path of socialism. I trust McCain to pick more moderate justices and the Dems will not pass anyone who is too radical right.

Nebe. We're agreeing on way to much lately, knock it off

well.. socialism is one thing, but it has seemed to me that after 9/11 this country has gone down the path to fascism.

In regards to agreeing with you, I tend to sound extremely liberal on here, but in reality I am not...i am just a person who pays very close attention to what is going on.... Also, I have a great distaste for Bush incase you havent noticed.. :hihi:

stripersnipr 09-07-2008 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by striperman36 (Post 617761)
Let them have a cage match

That was the plan but they've had no luck finding a cage that can hold Sarah. :laugha:

buckman 09-07-2008 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by stripersnipr (Post 618181)
That was the plan but they've had no luck finding a cage that can hold Sarah. :laugha:

:biglaugh:


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