this just proves how much damage was done under bush's watch..

C'mon now...The Liberal Media wouldn't report that kind of negative stuff :hee:

i concur Ross
 

Jimmy i have to say it...

your to quick on the draw

to rain on the parade ...
~

spread some sunshine brother...

see the glass half full sometimes

no offense meant...just an observation...

so..........don't worry - be happy

today's the first day that BUSH is NOT in office

so whistle up a tune ....and rejoice...

Me and Nebe are...

it's like Fred Astaire dancing in the rain kind of happiness :happy:

and PS. think only of fishing :rolleyes:

Yep Raven. I am whistling Dixie.. :gu:

Sorry, I am someone that lets reality get in the way of things.
Hope! Change!

I can see now what I'm dealing with here.... So headlines equal fact?.... And you really believe that Bush remarks actually had as much effect on the markets as the talking heads would have you believe?... Misinformation disseminated by the media, amongst others, has both made and lost billions.

I should have known better than to pass through the political forum... I just don't believe in posts to restate what I meant to say in a previous post, nor hide behind edited posts. While not saying that is what RIJ is doing, it is clear to me what the tone of his initial, unedited posts were meant to be. No upside to be gained through these type of "discussions", as they mostly evolve into an exchange of insults. I'm outta here.

but.. but... this thread is called 'Glorious day!'.. embrace the glorioiusness!!

huh? I never edited my original post. Look at the proof before you make a lame accusation, I edited my post before ANYONE responded as I added more content. When you're able to have an intelligent discussion, please come back. And BTW, yes politicians comments DO directly affect the market.

hide behind edited posts, now Im pissed. Actually, I did not edit TWO posts, I only edited the response to YOU as I added more content. I dont hide behind %$%$%$%$.
F-IN FACT, FACT, FACT THE FIRST TIME EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR the markets were DOWN on innaugureation !

hee hee! Its funny when it happens to Bush

Even as Bush spoke to a friendly audience in Birmingham, Ala., the Dow Jones industrial average was spiraling downward to 1997 lows. Bargain hunting in the afternoon prompted a rebound that cut losses on the Dow Jones industrials and sent the Nasdaq up slightly for the day.

Nevertheless, Congressional Democrats circulated e-mails showing photos of Bush delivering his speech on TV while graphics on the screen depicted the market falling. Jim Jordan, executive director of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, said, "His sermons and his policy proposals have pleased no one and frightened almost everyone."

little more

Take President Bush's corporate responsibility speech on July 9, with which his advisors said he "hoped to hearten traders and investors with harsh plans to crack down on corporate fraud -- and perhaps spark a rally," according to the Washington Post. When the market declined later that day and the next, it was therefore widely framed as a reaction to -- or a verdict on -- the speech. Rep. Ed Markey, D-Mass., went so far as to say on CNN's "Crossfire" that if Bush had asked for the resignation of Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Harvey Pitt, "the market would have gone up instead of down. As the marketplace looked today at the reforms that were being proposed by the president, they didn't see enough teeth in them, and as a result, the market plummeted again."

Stock market drops 107 points during Bush’s speech on the economy.»
Today, President Bush gave an eight-minute speech on the economy, which was meant to reassure the markets. “This is an anxious time,” said Bush. “But the American people can be confident in our economic future.” However, ABC News notes that during those eight minutes, the Dow Jones dropped another 107 points. The Dow was down 78.70 at the beginning of Bush’s address, but at 185.66 by the end.

so my friends, in a thread that was titled - glorious day
I posted that not all share the optimism and a quote from the Wall Street Journal that for the first time in 113 years, the market was not up on innauguration day. I did not blame the decline on Obama, however, it would appear his message of hope did not overshadow the current states in the market. Historically Bush has taken heat over making the markets go down and I posted some backup. Take it as you will. NF - I dont like you questioning my integrity or misreading my posts and holding me to what YOU think I said. the proof is above.

yes
 

there's no hands on his watch now because he's out of time :rotf3:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...nob1/watch.jpg

Not one arrest with over 1.5 mil. people. That talks volumes of the spirit of this event.

so true :kewl:

Wow, I thought it would be virtually impossible to have that many people in one place without someone getting arrested. Great job by everyone involved. It would have been a shame if anything happened to shed a negative light on the event.

We won't discuss the large group booing and jeering President Bush. A damper on an otherwise nice event. Nebe, I thought I saw you on TV.

I guess Im a cynical bastard and there is no hope for me. How come when there is high security for Bush's innaugurauion, its a " lock down on Washington" and for Obama there is no mention other than the price tag?

http://www.democracynow.org/2005/1/2...d_security_for

If you havent figured it out by now, this is my main gripe in the political fourms, this double standard for liberals. Why I am so negative to Obama is becasue the truth will be shadowed by the press.

It didn't really take any thought because I know that he is both African and America, hence "African American". I was commenting on things I read, not labeling him as anything other than the President of the United States. But, if people insist on labeling him, they should get it right.

We get it Media Bias....we know...you've been banging that drum so loud for so long people don't hear it anymore.

One reason for "Lockdown" is because this was the 1st Inauguration since 911 and it had a different security model than anything like it before. Media thrives on hype...From "Storm of the Century" to "Just Believe" everything is a buzz word of sensationalism....gotta learn to ignore it. Your Blood pressure will thank you.

And considering that the Bush administration's main push for his second term was Keeping America Safe, i'm betting he LOVED this article using the term Lockdown....

and there are articles about the security concerns out there.....

http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...rss-nation-cnn

its not the security concerns DF, its the spin that the "lockdown" was there to control the people.
Look at the press around the Republican National Convention, same thing.
Its all perception and the media feeds the notion of the evil Bush empire squashing free thought. I feel this stuff is so obvious and can't understand how you dont or choose not to see it.

I already agreed with you about all of that...i just choose to ignore it. I Don't Care about it. I take the facts out of an article and leave the spin where it belongs.....in the crapper

I've told you why I hate Bush...and it has nothing to do with Media Bias....it has to do with him being the most powerful man, in charge of the greatest nation, in the world....and acting like an idiot in public. His Stupid made up words, his moronic dancing clown impersonations....all that crap drove me nuts. Made the U.S. look like buffoons and it disgusted me.

your no fun anymore

I think the best comment on the transition was the comment that it felt like the liberation of Paris...:hihi:

Gotta agree with that, I'm afraid. Bush hovering over the Capitol and then being flown away with a blue sky behind him as he left was a pretty strong image.

And Cheney in a wheelchair looked for all the world like the evil Mr. Potter in It's A Wonderful Life

I thought Obama's address was pretty moving - in terms of our moral standing in the global community, our responsibilities to our companions on this planet and our goals to create a more humane society. The callous disregard the previous administration showed for the victims of Katrina was monstrous, for lack of a better description. Had Katrina hit Fairfield County, CT, I sincerely doubt you would have seen stranded WASPs desperately waving from their roofs to hovering Coast Guard choppers and waiting days on end for help.

To have a seemingly normal family in the White House is going to be nice - with 2 cute kids under Grandma's watchful eye. The only downside is Barack has his mother-in-law living with him...:hihi:

It also seems like Obama may already be having an effect on young minorities. Maybe it will become cool to be smart and study and work hard - and not emulate celebs and rappers. They now have a role model and I hope Obama will be able live up to their standards.

You know, our culture has really celebrated underachievement and this manic self-absorption involved in personal gain for way too long - and that is exactly what put us where we are today.

If you want to thank Bush for something, thank him for that.

Godspeed Obama - you've got a lot on your plate, young man.

Imagine - a President 13 years my junior...damn.

Actually Crafty, I think he bore a striking resembence to Mr. Lebowski from 'The Big Lebowski'

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...tan/th_big.gif

:jester:

well spoken Crafty---as speed is of the essence....

Make haste! onward and upward ........on Dasher and Blitzin !

Hey, Rav - come over here...:whackin:

I said 13 years, porcupine...:hihi:

Unfortunately, it just looks like 23...:rollem:

How did a thread ramble on this long without me??? :hs::hee::af:

-spence