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fishgolf 02-17-2009 10:21 PM

Not getting any, log, reflect...
 
NIB & Numskull posts... too funny...

Pete F. 02-17-2009 11:02 PM

If I thought casting did'nt matter I'd go flyfishing

quick decision 02-18-2009 05:47 AM

many times the fish are out in that second trauf running up and down the beach. That is about as far as I need to cast. I think more importantly if you have a head wind you need xtra power to get where the fish are.

ReelinRod 02-18-2009 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish (Post 665215)
but over the last several years if there is one thing I have learned.....its that you do not have to throw your back out on every cast! Read the beach, read the water, pay attention to the structure that shows as the water moves......watch the birds. 10% of the time maybe you need long...the other 90% you need to fish smart!:btu:

I really resent this line of thinking; that one is either strong or smart . . .

Why is it presumed that longcasters just whump it out there with no regard to "reading the water?"

For a longcaster to be effective his water reading skills must be refined to an even greater degree than someone who only fishes the slough at their feet. Anybody with a pulse can read a hole 20 yards out; tell me what's going on under that "busy water" 110 yards out . . .

I can't believe that people who can't throw long are so willing to exclude themselves from having a chance to catch the majority of the fish that swim past a spot . . .

Tagger 02-18-2009 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Flaptail (Post 665240)
In the Canal distance means success

Not always .. I use to fish a spot (chunk) you need to get it out about 5',, then feed the line so it drops .. They are there. This thought must really disgust you . :yak4: :wave:

NIB 02-18-2009 09:19 AM

I think the ledges or edges of the canal are hugely underutilized by most lure fisherman..When you think about it.If your casting out 90 yds and fishing in 45 ft of water your basically fishing straight down.Just imagine your fishing off the roof of a 4 story building.
Them edges got to be filled with all kinds of striper hidey spots.There is no doubt in my mind this is where the really big ones live..The thing is, it is tough to make a decent presentation of any great distance and keep it close to the bottom.The swing in the lure and the irregularities of the sides/bottom along the edge are what add to this. I would bet if you are patient enough you can find the little nuances that might make a 50 ft pc of it very productive.With good sized fish.

FishermanTim 02-18-2009 11:02 AM

I think presentation is more important than distance, but there are always exceptions to the rule: If the fish are breaking farther than you can cast, and they're moving AWAY instead of TOWARDS you.

I have had more success DURING the retrieve, not at the very beginning, so the distance wasn't the deciding factor but was involved to some degree.

Think about it: Fish don't care that you could cast a lure 100 yard, but more on what your lure looks/acts like.
You would get very similar results if the fish hit at 100 yards, 50 yards or 25 feet.
A lot has to do with the marketing position that we all NEED to be able to cast faster, longer, and with heavier weight in order to catch fish.

Remember, most lures are designed to catch 2 things: fish and the fishermen's eye!

Tagger 02-18-2009 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NIB (Post 665843)
I think the ledges or edges of the canal are hugely underutilized by most lure fisherman..

True ,, chunkers know this .. run the rips in close .. Running chunks thru the rocks can turn a fresh spool of ande pink to junk in about 2 hrs.

BigFish 02-19-2009 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ReelinRod (Post 665775)
I really resent this line of thinking; that one is either strong or smart . . .

Why is it presumed that longcasters just whump it out there with no regard to "reading the water?"

For a longcaster to be effective his water reading skills must be refined to an even greater degree than someone who only fishes the slough at their feet. Anybody with a pulse can read a hole 20 yards out; tell me what's going on under that "busy water" 110 yards out . . .

I can't believe that people who can't throw long are so willing to exclude themselves from having a chance to catch the majority of the fish that swim past a spot . . .

Resent away ReelinRod. I was not singling anyone out or putting down how anyone else fishes??? Just expressing my own view and what I have learned since I started fishing. If you for some reason believe I can't throw long....you may want to re-think that as I have no problem going long when and if I need to! I can hang with the big boys if needed!;)

By the way....I am 6' 5" and 300 pounds.....if I am both strong and smart that would be something!:laugha:

MarshCappa 02-19-2009 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFish (Post 666419)
Resent away ReelinRod. I was not singling anyone out or putting down how anyone else fishes??? Just expressing my own view and what I have learned since I started fishing. If you for some reason believe I can't throw long....you may want to re-think that as I have no problem going long when and if I need to! I can hang with the big boys if needed!;)

By the way....I am 6' 5" and 300 pounds.....if I am both strong and smart that would be something!:laugha:

6'5" 300! Good thing you haven't been on my skiff Larry! We'd max out the capacity! At 6'2" 280 I'm a close 2nd! I hope one day I can fish with you and Matt here locally.

BigFish 02-19-2009 03:27 PM

So it shall be written....so it shall be done!:jester: This year looks wide open right now!:bounce:

Saltheart 02-20-2009 04:42 PM

You can always cast shorter than your max ability but not longer. Being able to cast far for the 10% of the time it matters is worth learning. At the canal , being able to cast far is definitely an advantage so that you can work the largets area and catch the drift you want where currents form or go into eddys. Thay are not right at your feet in the canal usually.

quick decision 02-20-2009 07:18 PM

Ever notice how that peole fishing from boats try to cast toward the shore, and every body from shore cast out to the boats.


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