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JohnR 03-02-2009 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MAKAI (Post 669919)
once you have a clue do you really need a fishing mag or show? It's like baseball, fun to play, BORING to watch. :yawn::yawn::yawn:

Ehhh. Not sure on that as a few here and their are entertaining. I don't watch too many anymore as I don't have the spare time to watch fishing shows, but there are some that get the juices flowing...

CaptMike 03-02-2009 10:58 AM

Yeah I enjoy watching them. I don't really try to learn anything from them it's just for entertainment.

bassballer 03-02-2009 11:09 AM

I took it off the DVR. Same episodes every week.

2 Favorite episodes over the years though,

1. steve's surf fishing with sluggos

2. cuttyhunk surfishing

RIJIMMY 03-02-2009 05:36 PM

so I guess the question should be, when does the new season start? Its March already and the winter was all re-runs.

Joe 03-02-2009 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MAKAI (Post 669919)
once you have a clue do you really need a fishing mag or show? It's like baseball, fun to play, BORING to watch. :yawn::yawn::yawn:

If you're bored watching baseball, you're not watching close enough.

RNC 03-02-2009 10:30 PM

maybe they should fish with some colored folks...:eek5:

BigFish 03-02-2009 10:40 PM

I like the show and think the crew of OTW do a great job but some diversity is in order to keep it fresh.....it is too much of the same stuff! As far as repeats go I have seen the "Cinto" episode about 40 times and not seen the McKenna show even once??!:confused:

Nebe 03-02-2009 11:06 PM

how about a documentary on poaching? how to do it, where to sell it.. how to keep it a secret... how not to get caught. That would be interesting wouldnt it?

MAKAI 03-03-2009 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe (Post 670185)
If you're bored watching baseball, you're not watching close enough.

I have played enough to know what it is about. It's one thing to be on the field, another to watch it on t.v. You have to admit most games are not close, well pitched, with clutch hitting affairs. My bigger point was watching some guy catch a few 10 to 20 pound fish isn't the same as catching them yourself, hopefully much bigger. Now i will watch fishing I never get to do, like rooster fish in the surf or big G.T.'s on poppers.

Joe 03-03-2009 08:17 AM

Catch enough 20# fish and that gets boring too.

Joe 03-03-2009 08:22 AM

Set up a big ramp, get a live 20ft Great White in a cage, and then have an episode where Flaptail jumps it in his skiff.

Sea Flat 03-03-2009 08:39 AM

In general I really like the show. Yes, I am sick of the episodes, but I am pretty sure that there will be some new episodes out in a little while.

Surf casting shows will have major implications in spot burning and unless they do it at night, which is difficult, I think they probably will not. I did hear that they were filming a little during the day down at the canal during the infamous mackerel blitz. I will be curious to see how they filmed it because the spot they were fishing is a little off the beaten path with not a lot of access.

Flaptail 03-03-2009 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe (Post 670294)
Set up a big ramp, get a live 20ft Great White in a cage, and then have an episode where Flaptail jumps it in his skiff.

Been there, done that. Didn't generate any interest on thier part. I am now trying to sell the idea to a travelling Bosnian amateur circus troupe for this coming summer. Only problem is they want to pay me in potatoes and cabbages.

Flaptail 03-03-2009 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Flaptail (Post 670324)
Been there, done that. Didn't generate any interest on thier part. I am now trying to sell the idea to a travelling Bosnian amateur circus troupe for this coming summer. Only problem is they want to pay me in potatoes and cabbages.

Oh yeah, another thing. They think it would be more believable to eastern europeans if I changed the great white to a Sturgeon.

ridler72 03-03-2009 07:45 PM

I totally agree with others. It's not just OTW it's the other New England Based shows as well. It's all of em. I pretty much gave up for now. I enjoy my sports pack. I watch fishing shows from all over the country and the same ones can get boring too.

The highlight for my off season TV watching has been the independent video, Reel People Fisherman of Plum Island. What a benefit it would be for us and future generations to have a video library on the entire history of Striped Bass and it's presence in New England. Fish stories, beach buggy stories, kayak stories, Plug making, plastics, manufactures, anything and anybody. If it can't be done now.........when is a good time?

But lets be honest in another month or two we will be all on our own quests for glory.

Looking forward to MSBA show!

westhavendave 03-03-2009 10:29 PM

I know they filmed an episode of yakfishing Block Island with some friends of mine, don't know if it made it out of the can yet.

MAKAI 03-03-2009 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe (Post 670292)
Catch enough 20# fish and that gets boring too.

not the 30 to 40 range though.

piemma 03-04-2009 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by WoodyCT (Post 669911)
I let my scrip lapse for a while hoping it would improve, but it's the same old same old it seems.

And the show has gotten really lame. I nearly ralphed when I heard they were going to do an episode with Nolan. Did it ever air?

Personally I hope they don't do exposes no shore spots. We are already under attack from can tossing, line crossing, parking lot pissing idiots.

W

I know they filmed the episode with Bill and Jim White fishing bunker. I was withing 50 feet of them in my boat. It probably didn't air as that morning was absolutely pee soup fog and I imagine the quality of the film was less than optimal. They did get a ton of good fish up to the mid 30# but the fog was brutal.

Joe 03-04-2009 08:47 AM

There was a crazy public access show a while ago on surfcasting - the guys were from Charlestown, RI....It was very whacky, I liked it.

BassDawg 03-04-2009 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe (Post 670591)
There was a crazy public access show a while ago on surfcasting - the guys were from Charlestown, RI....It was very whacky, I liked it.

funny that you should mention that, as
i've been considering filming me nephews at a coupla spots,
at night, slinging snakes into sum feeshy suds, documentary style~~~

problem is i only have a home version minicam and it would prolly
be very "Cloverfieldesque". i'm still gonna give it a shot, for our own
viewing and rememberance pleasures, but NOT at the risk of burning me HH.

does anyone know where i can pick-up sum "night film"?
:bl: :bl: :bl:

Raven 03-04-2009 09:06 AM

yep
 
check Sears

they have all the old Crap :)

Rockport24 03-05-2009 04:48 PM

based on the response number to this thread, a lot of people are watching and just not liking the show!
they did do a show on the salmon river fishing a while back, it was pretty good. they also did a show on FW fishing way the hell up in Maine for touge I believe.

I would love to see more surfcasting shows and a kayaking show would just be awesome. I'm sure it's on their radar, we just have to be patient. As ridler said though, why not pick up the camera yourself? a buddy of mine is into film editing, maybe we can put a surfcasting show together and post it on this site this season, anybody interested, let me know..god knows the show can't rely on my fishing skills! :D

oh I wanna add that Mike Laptew does a good job showing surfcasting in his vids, but it is still wayy too boat heavy IMO.

CaptMike 03-06-2009 08:54 AM

I'd be interested in doing a boat fishing show. I don't know anything about film editing but I have movie star looks! LOL!

CaptMike 03-06-2009 09:01 AM

My favorite episode of OTW has to the one from season 5 where they're fishing in the new Grady and if you look closely you can see an empty sam adams bottle. That's how you know it's a real NE fishing show! Truth be told I really like the show. There's lots of things they could do to improve but it's great to be able to watch people fishing for the same fish I'm fishing for, in nearby places.

BigFish 03-06-2009 10:30 AM

That is a good show....seen it 43 times though!:smash:

late-start 03-06-2009 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by beaver (Post 669887)
A few things to consider are the facts that...
a. filming a night is not the easiest task
b. don't want to give away too many spots, thats why boat fishing shows seem more popular
c. they are trying to reach everyone's fishing needs
d. IT AIN'T FREE... and this economy isn't helping. TV time isn't cheap and I'm sure OTW needs some sponsorship dough to get their shows on the air. They can film a bazillion tv shows all over New England, but if they can't afford to air them then its useless.

I hope they can get some more shows, particularly surf fishing with reputable anglers like they did with steve mckenna and mike laptew a few years back. I'd like to see a show on the outer cape beaches. I feel like you could preserve the specific location and just focus on the water.

my sediments exactly

Joe 03-06-2009 12:22 PM

"We're fishing today with John Doe at the Phantom Beach for striped bass sometime during the fishing season at no tide in particular."
"John, what can you not tell us?"

It's unrealistic to expect a for profit fishing show not relay the basics related to the show's subject matter. The viewership and advertisers expect certain things.

Now, a not-for-profit web or public access show - different story. You want the host to swear, let him. You want to tell the viewers they can watch, but we're not going spoon feed you spots, you can. You want to engage in irreverant zaniness - go for it. What you've got in the end could be something really creative or useless - depending on who did it.

J-golden 03-07-2009 12:04 AM

you guys can always watch Oprah instead

CanalGuy 03-11-2009 07:14 PM

I just want to see the Wachusett Reservoir episode from a few seasons ago. I live at the place can tell you there always the same amount of people. I hope they head back.

CaptMike 03-12-2009 07:16 AM

There's an episode about catching tuna on the fly that's pretty fantastic, I like the one about fishing on the bonito bar too. That's a place I need to check out this season.

RIJIMMY 03-12-2009 07:56 AM

I wonder whats keeping them from releasing new episodes? Its Mid-March and still re-runs.

Also, anyone watch Hunt for Big Fish with Larry Dahlberg? I think the economy is hitting him this year. Most episodes have been local Minnesota or filmed in his basement instead of traveling the world for exotic species. On one episode he mentioned that flight tickets were 2K and he couldnt afford it.

Joe 03-12-2009 08:47 AM

I like The Hunt For Big Fish - that's my favorite fishing show. My guess is the advertisers are not paying their bills.
I like those shows from his basement though - I like when he added weight to the butt of the rod and measured how that would reduce stress on the elbow.

Flaptail 03-12-2009 08:52 AM

The Hunt for Big Fish is the best show on the tube. And not to mention Dahlberg has an awesome guitar collection as well.

That guy has endured disentary and all kinds of other tropical ills to go into places where no average angler would dare.

I would love to go to the Amazon with him sometime for giant peacock bass and thier Dorado (not to be confused with MAHI MAHI)

RIJIMMY 03-12-2009 09:40 AM

yeah, any guy that fishes and plays guitar is ok in my book. That golden dorado episode, (was it Argenina?) is my favorite all time fishing show.

Rockport24 03-12-2009 09:46 AM

yeah Dahlberg is the man! I was thinking of all of you when I saw the episode this past weekend with him in his basement talking about plugs the whole time.

my favorite was when he was surfcasting for a big game type species (maybe tarpon or rooster fish?) in Mexico

sokinwet 03-12-2009 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY (Post 673004)
I wonder whats keeping them from releasing new episodes? Its Mid-March and still re-runs.

Also, anyone watch Hunt for Big Fish with Larry Dahlberg? I think the economy is hitting him this year. Most episodes have been local Minnesota or filmed in his basement instead of traveling the world for exotic species. On one episode he mentioned that flight tickets were 2K and he couldnt afford it.

Jimmy...did you see the collection of vintage amps that Dahlberg has stacked in his cellar!!!!:eek5:

CaptMike 03-12-2009 10:13 AM

The hunt for big fish is pretty awesome. I also like anything flip pallot does. Jose's not bad either. Saltwater experience is really good on dvd

Swimmer 03-12-2009 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by J-golden (Post 671561)
you guys can always watch Oprah instead

Naw, seen enough beached whales.:hidin:

beaver 03-12-2009 12:09 PM

Anyone see the Hunt for Big Fish when Dahlberg jumped into the Amazon? to retrieve a peacock that got wrapped up in a tree. That was pretty wild. I would never get into that water. His shows are pretty great.

I like Flip, Jose, and the Saltwater Experience mainly because they're all good anglers and fish places that I hope to make it to. I also like Tred Barta. He does some stupid sheeeet but knows his stuff and makes a good show.

Would like to see a local show get the sponsorship backing that those shows get.

JoeBass 03-12-2009 12:37 PM

[QUOTE=stiff tip;6 i look at it as i'm offering up my know how and info to u people as a gift .cause most u have no clue wtf is going on..most just bitch and complaine about fishing or lack of ...... dave ..[/QUOTE]

I think it's great that you want to help all the retarded fishermen Dave. I'd like to see an episode where you are dressed as Santa and angry, feeble minded fisherman sit on your knee and you present them with your wisdom.


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