But under Clinton and Bush we weren't playing cat and mouse. After the 1993 WTC bombing there was a series of attacks against US interests that were not motivated by the political militancy we've seen before. These should have been taken more seriously but they weren't. Yes, I have the blessing of hindsight, but that's what I thought the CIA, NSA and State Department were there for!

I doubt 9/11 could have necessarily been averted so late in the planning, but it seems like our Government wasn't even watching the game.

-spence

Fargo is all set Spence, because all the FEMA trailers are stored in Fargo for use everywhere else in the country. Fargo is where the formaldahyde factory is also. Plus all the those trailers that have all the ice stored in them for use everywhere are hidden in the woods there, because its so out of the way.

Just having fun Spence. Thank you for pointing out my sentence structure shortcomings. I did a rather poor job at it.

Perhaps you want to think this one through and try posting again? :bounce:

-spence

Are there rules about adding to a post after I posted it? I didn't realize there were rules on what you can do with your own post. Seems like someone is trying to silence my opinion. Is this web site based in China or do we still have free speech?

just don't edit your post. that's against the law. John will get you.

Actually, a couple things maybe you need to understand.

First, Free Speech is a constitutional right, not yelling "Fire in a Theater" or I'm a Conspiratorial Nitwit in an Internet Forum. Though on this Internet forum (especially the Political Talk) it is pretty rare for me or someone to edit someone's post.

As for your warning to Spence, as one of the more active soapboxers in these forums he knows that his opinion has rarely been silenced, maybe a whole two or three times in many many years. That applies to him, the Moonbats, the Freepers, and all.

Now the reason I am asking you to get it right the first time (at least most of the time) is because I'm seeing a trend here where you post a lot of crap in rapid fire and change it or clean it up a little afterward with multiple edits. Why don't you think first, figure out what you want to say next, and then post it in a manner that doesn't require you to edit a bunch of times. Couple things might happen but for one, people might take you more seriously.

As for the "rules", we periodically put a time limit on how long you can edit when someone uses "editing" frequently to take shots or post drivel. Thankfully it doesn't happen all too often by us uber right wing, great firewall of China censormeisters.

Political Threads This section is for Political Threads - Enter at your own risk. If you say you don't want to see what someone posts - don't read it :hihi:

Aww shucks, timeout.

I need to work harder then :hihi:

Aside from the WeeWee battle many, many moons ago I can't think of any real censorship, and that was at my request!

-spence

Doesn't anyone on this thread care about Fargo anymore?

Yeh, we censor real hard here. :yak5:

Things look pretty good right now all things considered. Assuming they don't have a major levy failure (and yes I'm knocking on wood).

Going to take the city a long time to recover. I know Cedar Rapids has only just begun.

-spence

Strange, I havent heard a single peep from the whitehouse about Fargo.
No declaration of a state of emergency or anything. Other than the national guard being there, I haven't seen much as far as national interest. Same thing goes for the volcano in Alaska. I mentioned it to a friend here and he was surprised as he hadnt heard about it. I told him the flood and volcano have been going on for almost a week now.. National news seems to ignore those places that they can't get video of poor downtrodden people, begging for assistance. These same people that have become slaves to the government programs, that give them just enough welfare to not have to work, but never actually succeed (also keeping them in the Democrat pocket). If someone bussed in 100 people (mostly minorities) to Fargo pretending it was their homes in danger, it would be front page news.

my humble opinion

You buried weewee under the Newport Bridge

Yup they're not democratic enough up there to get coverage

It (the entire State of ND) was declared a Federal Disaster Area on Tuesday of last week.

Yesterday the President had this to say...

Perhaps you're just not watching the right news?

-spence

That's great new, no FEMA.

And they're busing in STUDENTS to help. Now that is government in action.

I guess I missed that on the news yesterday. Thanks for posting that. Point goes to Spence. One thing concerns me though from his speech,

"That is why I’m so happy that legislation passed the Senate this week and the House last week to provide more opportunities for Americans to serve their communities and the country.

The bipartisan Senate bill was sponsored by Senator Orrin Hatch and Senator Ted Kennedy, a leader who embodies the spirit of public service, and I am looking forward to signing this important measure into law."

What legislation was that? Hopefully not the precursor to the one I've heard about that will eventually require youth to serve in some role of community or military service. Kinda makes my "spidey senses" tingle. People already have all the opportunities in the world to help, something like this is more than likely going to require it in some way.

Doesn't appear so from the description on Hatch's site...

Considering your posts the last few weeks, I'd have to ask the last time your "spidey sense" was serviced? Perhaps it's time for a tune-up :hihi:

-spence

Nope, thats the legislation I was thinking about, I guess it all depends on how hard they "ask" people to volunteer and exactly what he uses his new army of "volunteers" for.

The Peace Corps reincarnated

Well, yes FEMA.

And I think this task might be a bit below the USMC. Sounds like they have the Army Corps of Engineers in charge and why not leverage a young, fit and local talent pool who has nothing else to do? Doesn't take a lot of training to fill a sandbag, just some strength and determination.

-spence

Kinda like what we still need in Jefferson an St Bernard Parishs

How come Obama didn't bring up the Bush mistakes from Katrina? Are you sure that's his speach?

One concern I have is, as a "Community Organizer" who actually trained Acorn activists, will Acorn be one of these community service groups? And besides the money he has already given them, how much more will they receive?

Hopefully a lot of money. That way they can use it to by drugs and keep the inner city folks doped up and use their ID's to vote in different states :doh:

You could be a bigger conspiracy whack than Bssb! :agree:

-spence

Obama just says what the "teleprompter" tells him to say. :D

Here's an example of when Mr. Teleprompter lets him down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omHUsRTYFAU

I'm not a big Obama fan, now or earlier, but after the last 8 years I'm not leaning too hard on his oratory skills. :rotflmao:

I'd like to see you give 2-5 public addresses per day, often each one about a unique topic, and *you* be able to memorize each one.

At least he isn't making up words like the bumbling idiot that just left office.

I was thinking that if they made that movie, that was so damn funny, "Fargo", when it was flooded like it is now, with all the plots and sublots it could have been even more hysterical than it was, "yah", and "oh yah".

On the other hand Fargo is not someplace I would readily live after watching the high water level.

He's not writing them or prereading them either:scream:

Frankly, the lack of needed comments is probably what is best about this!
IF it was all hitting the fan w/o Federal support, then it would be a huge deal. Like Spence indicated, the proper steps seem to have been taken...

In one breath, the economy is the biggest deal. All other issues should be put on the back burner. In the next breath, "The President isn't doing enough for this small town," and this is after the announcement of the Army Corp of Engineers being dispatched, systems being in place to find volunteers and resources being allocated to the area. Apache helicopters are being used to transport 1-ton bags of sand to reinforce week areas of the wall - seems pretty obvious that the federal government is doing something.

The crazy part is that they're actually being proactive as opposed to reactive. Maybe Obama should be talking about Bush's failings.

Obama also isn't on some publicity stunt to fly into the area and "survey the damage," which would accomplish nothing but hindering progress, just as it did when Bush went to New Orleans.

Come on JD. We all saw the same Federal action after Katrina. Fargo's been drowning for days also. Not sure what proactive action has been undertaken.

How the hell you make a statement about Bush" hindering progress" is beyond me. You know, that if he had no showed like Obama, he would have been ripped by the media.

I'll give you an exact example as to how he hindered progress. From the moment Air Force One entered the Louisiana airspace, every aircraft in the vicinity was required to be grounded. This included state aircraft that were providing supplies and volunteers that were assisting in rescue searches. It also shut down areas to volunteers while Bush was on the ground.

"In St. Bernard and Plaquemines parishes, just south of New Orleans, victims of the hurricane are still waiting for food and water and for buses to escape the floodwaters, Melancon said. And for the entire time Bush was in the state, the congressman said, a ban on helicopter flights further stalled the delivery of food and supplies."
http://www.debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?t=29367

Melancon... That's a reliable source.

Quoted from the AP. I couldn't find the AP article.

Like all your sources are models of credibility.

OK, you got me on that one:buds:.
I'm just not sure a Dem. Congressman is the source to go to on Bush. After all they were, and are still are in the blame Bush for everything mode. Thinking about it, it's so pathetic, it's comical.

Pot, it's the Kettle...you're black!

-spence

Racist!:rotf3: