1. Just lie. "Sure, I have been slammin' em for hours. The bite just died. You should have been here 2 hours ago".

2. Tell the "Tool" you work for the Post Office and always "carry".

3. Buy a boat like I did so you can just drive away from all of the "Tools".

First off, I noticed on another thread you were counting/observing herring....now you're quoting eel fishermen....what gives here? You ok?

fly wtf
 

i like:claps: your respond,:cheers2: as i c it u could have said to him ,so wtf do u realy expect me to tell a rere like u any thing about wtf is going on???.:rotflmao:...or u could have said nothing ,and played like a dummy.u could play either role :tm: (imo) get u meds checked:sleeps::agree:

Somehow, I think a lot of people think I lit up this guy and ripped him a new one. This is the entire exchange.

Tool-"Any luck ?"
Me-no answer
Tool-"ANY LUCK ?" (as if I may not have heard the first time)

I never uttered a peep. Played deaf, made a few more casts and left because the bite was pretty much over. Everything in my post after that was just what i was thinking to myself which became an internet rant because this guy was probably sleeping in his feety pajamas through the best part of the tide :rotflmao:.

Now I understand, you did'nt say anything to him because he was a normal human being. Not that I fit that description.
My brother caught fish last night in RI, so I think it is fishing time. I can tell they were small because he did'nt tell how big they were.

I just give a nod and if the other person wants to say hello I'll return it.I've said hello to other fisherman and got the fake deaf and blind response.Made me angry at the time so now it's just a nod.

spare me
 

if you want to fish and not see anyone else, go to Alaska. This is New England and the season is starting up again, cut the guy some slack, show some courtesy. If thats impossible which it sounds like it is for you, make sure you never get a job involving public service.

long ago fishermen were gentlemen and courteous, don't tell me your so hard core this April that you can't at the very least be a gentlemen. I'm not saying your out of line or over-reacting, just remember that fishing is supposed to be fun for everyone.

In our line of business things can get real dicey real fast, you never know when one of your fellow surfcasting buddies or a complete stranger can assist you if your in trouble. Accidents happen, slip on a rock, banged up on the rocks, its nice to know that the person who you treated with dignity and respect is not only gonna help you out of the wash, they just might be the one helping you wade through 4 feet of water looking for that new Van Staal setup you were using!

Respect one another, respect the water, catch fish and be happy.

Hi Flyvice, It was me who you ignored the other day. As you can tell from my screen name, I was just introducing myself to you. I had my hand out. I said "Annie Luk" and was about to say nice to meet you, but you wouldn't even turn around. So I said again, Annie Luk. Sat there with my hand out and was completely ignored. If you had bothered to turn around, you would have noticed I was a hot blond partaking in some naked fishing that day with some of my girlfriends. Oh well, we killed'em anyway that day.

I don't blame him, those girls were probably using eels.

Reminds me of a friend of mine who was riding his motorcycle down the road one day, walking down the side of the road was a guy who was known, probably not to his face, as Dummy. Being a teenage boy he feels compelled to yell "Hey, Dummy". He dumped the bike after another corner, broke his leg and is laying in the ditch as the guy walks by and says "who's the dummy, now?"

Just a greeting, don't feel obligated to give any info. The guy is already there and if you're catching he'll soon know.

maybe its just me, but if anyone is willing to talk to me while im out fishing and im not into a fish at that moment, ill put my rod down for five minutes and have a nice chat. i find it a nice way to relax and possibly learn something new as im still young and have a lot to learn about the sport and the spots that i fish. 9/10 times that i have done that, the person that has asked me quote "any luck" is the person that i end up chatting with for 5-10 mins and finding out what he did to hook up with fish recently. for instance, i was on the vineyard fishing last summer and a guy came up to me at night and asked just that. i said nah nothing really and ive been out here for 2 hours and tried just about every plug in my bag. he said he had been out ther the past few nights and tried everything too until last night he rigged up a teaser in front of his danny and was hitting them HARD. i took his advice immediately and within hour or so, had a 32# on the rocks. i would have never tried that if i had not engaged in any conversation... i always have felt if you are nice to someone, they will show u that exact same gratitude. too many "spots" are known these days and the people that you meet at those spots are obviouslllyyyy there for a reason ---> cause they know fish are there. now why you wouldnt try to engage in a little chit chat to see how things are and if that person was using a plug that you werent to catch fish, then i dont know what to tell ya.... fishing has always supposed to be fun for me and i never mind helping someone out.

and btw, "any luck" would be the first thing that came out of my mouth too :humpty:

"any luck' is basically the universal hello between fisherman. I seriously doubt this guy was looking for any info from you at all. D*@k move if you ask me.

I'm just gonna start greeting people with "Hey F you, you F'n F!"

Not too wise to call the guy out as a tool for asking a question we all ask on a forum where people come to learn more about the sport they love by asking and answering questions. You can either read all the posts and say, "I'm right and everyone else is wrong," or think about what people took the time to write.

Life's too short for being a miserable SOB, you know?

whinning n crying
 

STOP the B S .....if any of u r out fishing your secret spot and some not so swift nummie fisherman wants you to spill your guts about your secret info ... tell him that a zipperhead:jump1: rererere like him aint sharp enouph to use it :wall:....and talk to someone else this ain,t the bebate team at high school.....:gh: right fly:fishin:

sooo from the opening line of "any luck" , how the #$%# did you deduce that he is a "rererere like him & not so swift fisherman" that "aint sharp enouph to use it " ??? it could have been any one of us, who are probably pretty good fisherman, that would have opened a conversation like that? and if the spots soooooooo secret, why is he there??? ok back to studying :read:

Its Funny, but the thing I like the best about the Fall run up on the North Shore is just bumping into people and BS'ing for a few minutes....

While "Any luck?" is a common greeting, in my opinion, it is also a way for someone to glean info from you.

To all of you who think I am in the wrong, let yourself be put in the situation. You are at your honey hole, with a consistent bite going on. There's another angler there, putting in his time, doing his thing, who probably has seen you pick up fish. Along comes John Doe, who asks you "Any luck?". There are basically 3 things you can do, with very little upside.

1-Tell him no, and be found out to be a lying SOB (whether he finds out from the other guy or if you start catching fish in front of John Doe).

2-Answer yes, and risk burning your spot (unfortunately this happens too much around these parts). The only upside would be that he returns the favor one day (which may not happen).

3-Say nothing (which is what I did) and be thought a secretive SOB. I called him a tool because he showed up at the end of the tide with the sun coming up, and because in my opinion, he was trying to get info from me.

What would you do???

Depending on my take of the person, briefly respond non specific & non-committal. No harm, no foul, maybe or maybe not no info. Depends on the encounter.

Tell him you caught a bunch of 30 pounders about 200 yards down the beach about a week ago??? But tonight is kind of quiet!:bgi:

Basically, choice 3. So you're being a sneaky son of a gun.

There isn't 200 yards of beach at my spot. You picked choice 1, you lying SOB ;).

:musc:

Excuse me kind sir, please do not immediately get upset or assume I am here to highjack your spot, tangle your line, spy on what you are doing then run home and post our, i mean your success all over the internet as if it was my information; I have been fishing this spot since my father taught me and intended to fish here all by myself but alas you are here before me so I felt I should at least make the appropriate greeting so that you are not offended in any way shape or form as that is surely not my intention. I will pass by you and find a spot out of your way where there is absolutely zero possibility of my bothering you anymore than I probably already have. Oh yeah, before I forget kind sir, any luck?????

That was downright rude. I would rather be acknowledged and lied to, then completely ignored.

Yeah I hate that question "Any luck" cause if there's not a fish at my feet then the answer is "no" but I am willing to make friends with anyone who's addicted enough to be standing out on some slimey rocks in the middle of the night. Just the fact that we're both out there is something in common.

seeing a newbie....
 

with a boat....the other day...
(perfect stranger) i asked him a question and he answered with body language indicating that he wanted little conversation....

:rude:....not only did i tell the guy where to fish.... and at what depth...

i gave him the precise lure to catch them on.... at my spot

did he believe me....? i dunno....:lasso: ( years from now, i'll see him again tho)............. he now has the ball....

will he go there... probably...
or maybe... a couple of buddies joined him right after wards...

i did the right thing...in my minds eye to appease the fishing gods.

as it was a very beautiful day:read:

proven case study from B S U
 

kidpowder. as for pretty good fisherman .. i watched u and others fish, don't flatter yourself.. with thinking u know whats going on about how to fish, where to fish what to fish or when ..someone will tell u that. the reason that he's on my spot is that a fellow rere told him,rere's can't keep sercets.. i know,,,cause i is a rere too

Man, flyvice, you need to take a few deep breaths, get off the steroids, and cut down on your raw meat. And maybe go lay on a couch in some shrink's office for a session or two...I thought the point of getting out there was to relax.

I'm a weekend warrior who enjoys fishing when I can get out there, which means when I'm not at work, not doing something on the house, not playing with the little guy or the dog. Which means I get out there 15 times a year, give or take, for the last 15 years. I bet I have greeted 99% of the fisherman I come across by saying "any luck"? As others have said, it's the fishing equivalent of "how's it goin?"

It never, ever occurred to me that I'd trigger a paranoid response from the lunatic I had the misfortune to come across.

When I'm fortunate enough to get out there, particularly when I'm having any success whatsoever, my blood pressure is so low you wouldn't be able to measure it. If you're that tightly wound in what should be a relaxing situation, how do you cope with real-life stressful situations?

Ageed.

1. There are no "secret" spots. Why would you think you are the first human to fish from that spot?

2. As soon as you think you know what you are doing you have taken all the spirit out of the game. I've put back more 40s in a night than most of you will catch in a lifetime. Because I'm good? No way! I was in the right place, at the right time and God smiled upon me.

40 years in the surf and 3 in the boat and everytime I fish I find out that I don't know *^&%#%

I agree with this!! Why so angry? If you don't want to answer the question honestly then stretch the truth, but at least be polite!

Fisherman should be like brothers that all take part in one of the most enjoyable and relaxing past times that is on this earth. "Can't we all just get along?"

To all the posters who see this as a very negative post, see my post stating that I believe there are only 3 types of answers to the question "Any luck?" when i am into fish and someone shows up late. Some form of "Yes", some form of "No", or silence.
Then you need to understand that the spot I was fishing is a very small spot. A very small piece of structure in a small location.
I don't need to feed information to someone so he can come back and "share" the spot with me. Of course it is not "my" spot, it's a public place. I would just rather not have someone I do not know crowding me. The reason I was angry is that the guy wanted to know if there are fish there. In the original post, I was pretty clear that I put in my due diligence, being there after working late and with little sleep. Why should he be entitled to find out what is going on without his putting in the time? Why do I need to have to lie to the guy? I would rather not answer than have to lie to someone. As another member pointed out, had I shared info with this guy, it may have been reciprocated, but that may not be the case. If I am missing out on a bite somewhere else, it's either I am not doing my homework, or it is just my loss as I can't be everywhere at once.
There is certain information that can be shared and locations discussed, this just didn't happen to be it.

flypapervice... lets face it u did yourself....never post what u think unless u plan to get youself shi t on by the shi t tossers....who cares what u think???? i dont and i,m the only one cares ...laugh it up .some night u my need someone to talk to.....

He Was Just Saying HI....Geesh :huh:

Lots of Guys do it....."Any Luck"..."How's It Going"..."How ya Makin Out"....Just a way of saying Hi.......Thats all.

Some people actually look at fishing as a Fun, Friendly Endeavor.

thats a fair response flyvice, and though i would not have responded with the "silent treatment", when you explain it as you did in this response, i guess i understand where you were coming from a little more. i have walked by many people on the beach that have chosen not to mention anything to my question "hi, hows it going?" but like you said, some people just want to fish and dont want to be interrupted. there are many different kinds of people out there fishing who all fish for different reasons.... now, tell me where your little spot is so i can determine if there are fish there or not :wid:

INCOMING!!!!!

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you had me sympathizing (not that you care, nor should you honestly) till this post.. and since you threw out your opinion i guess i'll toss out mine. i mean it's only fair we all get too right?

where you lost me... is in the selfish over tone of this post. i understand the frustration of being out all night and then it seems like someone wants an easy path to the fish. but at the same time, is catching a few fish really more important treating a fellow fishermen (person at the least) with some respect? if you were having a rough night and just wanted to be left alone fine. everyone has nights like that. but for the reasoning to be "i was there longer and studied the area harder, so those are my fish" (which you can vehemently deny, but thats pretty much what you said about the night in question) is just re-donk-u-lous. in the 20 years i have fishing (mostly fresh mind you) i think there is one spot i picked out all my own with no prior knowledge. and i was 5 years old at the time. since then every single spot i have found has been the result of some one else's knowledge. whether i got it from reading a book or listening at bait shops etc. at some point some one else had previous knowledge of the spot/conditions/structure type/etc.. it would be unfathomable to think that at some point in time that any spot i or you fished was not known to someone else at some point. and more than likely the same info that steered you to that spot probably steered others.

thats not say that their aren't instant tips that people chose to, or chose not to give for certain spots. but i am willing to bet with 125% certainty that you learned about that type of structure to fish from some one else willing to divulge the information about it.

let's look at it like this. you have never fished before. some one hands you a rod and reel. and let's say... a popper. keep in mind you have no idea how to fish. or even what fish are out there. and this person says catch a striper. with no further instructions. what the heck would you do? i am willing to bet you wouldnt be catching any fish.

point being fishing is a sport of information. for someone to assume that someone else is not going to be out there scouting and asking around for info is ridiculous. infact 90% of the sport revolves around the sharing of info and ideas. (the other 10% is radical new ideas that then ofcourse get shared) even that crap you read on the packaging of plugs was at one time probably "top secret" info. that is if everyone followed that same rational of "i found this out so it's mine". you probably wouldn't have a leg to stand on. and neither would i nor would 90% of fishermen out there today.

it's just like every other craft out there. trial and error. LOTS AND LOTS of ERROR passed on from generation to generation. with out any of the passing on of knowledge what do any of us have? a bunch of gear we have no idea what to do with.

i have learned sooooooooo much about fishing from other people i can't even begin to sum it up. but with out all those random people i have run into. including these boards. i would be beyond lost. i probably still wouldn't know to look for structure at all. hell i probably wouldn't even know what the fish ate. let alone where to fish for them.

like i said i understand a bad day wanting to be left alone. we all have days like that and go out and do what we enjoy to help relieve the stress. and will lie or ignore people just due to not wanting to deal with people. (though PERSONALLY the last thing i do when i want to ignore people is go outside, don't have the liberty of consistently empty spots) but to say you ignored this guy because (for whatever reason) you are entitled to the fish there, is in MY opinion, completely the wrong thing to do.

Hit some sweet water this am and a guy shows up and what do you think the first 2 words out of his mouth were??? Any guesses??? Hmmmmmm??? If you guessed "Any Luck?" you would be right......I simply responded "Nope...not yet".:huh:

hmmmmm.. you and sweet water. something i haven't heard much about. so i can't tell if you were lying or not. :hihi: