The rod is in great shape but take my advice...your money would be better spent on a smaller graphite set=up..ask anyone who has fished with these big rods. I was thinking of cutting it up to make a jetty-gaff. If you *really* want it I will sell it to you but (its really too big and too heavy compared to todays stuff.) It is really more of a conversation piece at this point.
Also, you would have to come over to the vineyard to get it. (I think it is too big to ship via UPS)

Think about it and if your still interest...PM me.

Jim

Oh, I see... I will PM u about it.:D Call me crazy if u want.

sandman. curious as to what is on it for a reel? big silver diawa by chance? i keep searching for 9000C silver series.

Yeah!...I think it was the silver series 9000 or 12000(?), I don't know it was big. I have a spare spool too. I still have it and it looks and works like new. It has an external bail trip (a red knob that strikes the bail) and it makes a loud KER-PLUNK! upon tripping. It was a monster. You could hear it 100 yards down the beach. I actually put new line on it last season and put in it the back of the truck but did not use it. I have not cast the rod in 15 or so years. I lent it to a visitor who saw it in my garage and wanted to try it a few years ago...when he returned he said.. "Thanks!, Thats quite the honker surf rig!".

I should take it down to the beach and reminisce with it....:D

Notaro,

This is the kind of stuff you throw with rods like that:
http://striped-bass.com/vbulletin/sh...&threadid=5885

Notaro - trust us - you don't want or need a rod that big. Back when I was young and st, err, impressionable :D , I assumed - FALSELY - that to look the part & be the part, ya needed a big stick. So I went out and bought a 12 foot fiberglass Daiwa Eliminator and a Penn 8500. Boy was I stupid. That thing, while maybe a decent setup in some cases, was way overkill for a 5-11, 200# guy (OK - this was a few years ago :rollem: ). I could not cast the right objects anywhere near friends were throwing with their custom nine footers.

So a friend of mine wanted to buy it from me even after I told him it would be a miserable choice, but he bought the rod outright and swapped me his near new 6500 Penn for my 8500 Penn. He no longer fishes it and now uses 9' graphite sticks and smaller conventionals. I oughta bug him about it again :laughs:

Not only is it a bear and not too efficient to cast once, it weighs so much it takes a toll on you at the end of the day and you're not that big enough physically to punnish yourself for no reason. It also will not improve your casting ability or efficiency. Seriously, don't do it. And if you do, I'll bet my little wussy 9 footer against it any day :D ...

Seriously, John? John, I tried casting far, but I'm not sure how far I can make it. Okay, I'll your words for it. Why? Because sandman is gonna use it for his jety gaff.


Sandman, this type of rod and reel combo is used for lures? Damn, will it wear me out?

Really really....

That stick is probably for throwing 3.5 ounces & up before it even starts to load up the rod. 90% of the people I've seen on the beach with a 12 or 13' rod can't get the typical plugs out as fars as the decent casting fella with a 9 or 10. The 9 footer is easier to throw & quicker to learn. And did I mention it's a lot lighter?

yES, BUT WHAT COMPANY? i PREFER SHEAKESPEARE BEcause it's duarble and capable of making a long cast. i don't need ron arra kind. and i dont cast it with a convential outfit.

i'v seen lots of guys out there with salt water rod's casting with a fresh water style (one arm) and with not much distance. so many people forget to pull with their left hand, the proper tech. works wonders on your casts regardless of the size of the rod. my .02

Notaro - I would stay away from those. Although the Ugly Sticks are decent blanks, the finnished product isn't all that hot. So while you probably don't need an Arra, a factory Ugly Stick is probably not the best choice either...

Before we go deep into companies, blanks, and lengths and weights, let us know what you are going to do with this rod? Let's get some specifics. Do you already have the reel or need one of those too?

John, I honestly have no ideas. I just want the right gear for surfcasting on Onset, Castle Island, Canal, Granite pier, and etc. I don't a right kind of rod that will fit the type of Arra's. I prefer to use the spinning arra gear for baitfishing for stripers and etc.
i need something that can be compressed easily and fits my height. I'm 5'10 and 164-72. So what are ur suggestion?

My suggestion is to visit a few shops around your area and check them (hands on) or talk to one of the guys here doing custom rods. I am sure you can find something suitable for whatever your budget. (Bigger is not better, you don't want lumber)
BTW, you can get an Ron Ara in spinning but you don't need to drop that much coin. Talk to some of the rodbuilders on this site! Saltheart makes some pretty nice stuff from his photos... I am sure a fellow like that can hook you up with a top suitable setup.

I want to narrow it down some more. Are you looking to cast 1 ounce jigs & bombers? 3 Ounce swimming plugs? Eels? 3 ounces plus bait? * and Bait? There are a lot of different subsets of surfcasting that need to be considered. Say you were going to use a smaller Gibbs popper or a Bomber, you couldn't cast those with a 12 foot Uglystick and a Penn 8500. Sure they'd sail 50 feet but they wouldn't put any kind of load on the rod to cast it out. Now say you had an off the shelf 9 foot Daiwa Sealine that would cast these, you wouldn't want to put a half a pogie and a 4 ounce sinker on it because it would probably break on the cast.

There really aren't a one size fits all, especially for a 12 footer, that can do everything. So it's best to figure out what you'll specialize in first. Doesn't make a big difference either if it's spinner or conventional and I would recommend spinner at this time anyway.

If you can narrow it down between chunking and lighter pulgs/eels/jigs - that would be helpfull. Are you going to cast & retrieve frequently? Or spike a rod and soak some bait? That has some to do with this too....

talkin about
 

casting and rods can you tell me what im doin wrong when my 40z lead sinker goes whizzing by the guys head 50yds down beach!!!!:smash: :smash:

40 oz is too excessive, tuna dude. and besides, combined with ur bait's weight and the sinker's weight, it wld be too heavy for u to cast.

40 oz
 

no i dont throw beer bottles around that would break my line! lil space DUDE!!:laughs: OOPS YOU CHANGED AVITAR MY BAD!!!

okay, tuna salad, my bad. :smash: i think that 40 oz is a little excessive. where do u fish off?

OK I GIVE
 

i was fooling around with 4 oz weight ive never fished from shore but when i did weights go sailing, big swimmer plugs get donated to the rocks, i walk around all day with no socks cause waders i borrowed leaked! but it was fun!!:smash: :happy: :happy:

I think Mr. Macy is talking 4 oz not 4O z.........

Compressed, do you want a two piece? That is probably the first decision.

Once you decide what type of fishing you plan on doing the decision will be easy.

i can cast farther with a 8 or 9 footer than with an eleven footer!!!
this I know! not to mention fish for hours and not have that stabbing pain in my shoulders......:af: :rolleyes: !!!!!!!!!!!!!



LMAO!!!!
I never realized until this past summer that there was a difference!!! went freshwater fishing with a great guy and fisherman and he laughed like hell when i reared back-two handed and launched that rubber worm like it was a 5oz hunk of lead!!!!! DUH! goes to show how much I know!!!:p :p :p (he still doesnt let me live it down either.....:rolleyes: ):D

Notaro

I got a 1265 Allstar by Saltheart last year that I can recommend as suiting me extremely well. It's a 2pc 10'6" and casts really well. I'm no long bomber, but this stick loads up 1.5 oz to 3.5 oz nicely. Gets 3/4 - 1oz out too. Check with SH or read about it on HatterasOutfitters.com

Nightfighter, I will try to hook up with SH. And since he is the "doctor" of custom surf rods and stuffs. So I'm sure that he can evaluate my build and my needs.

Don't let peoples preferences sway you from the right rod. 9 feet may be perfect for some and the way and where they fish. For others , a longer rod is better. I agree that 13 feet for someone to throw 2 OZ plugs may be overkill. You want to match the rod to your application and ability.

Fact is that if you can handle it , the longer rods , properly matched to the application , will cast further. You also need length if you often fish around large boulders or areas with high waves. It doesn't have to be one or the other. You can get lengths between 9 feet and 13 feet. Lots of people like 10 feet.

Landing fish is usually easier with a shorter rod. The shorter rod is a problem though if you have to reach over rocks , etc. A 13 foot rod has little utility on a fishing boat but by the same token , a 6 foot trolling rod has little use casting in the surf.

Certainly don't get any rod longer than you can handle. Also , be careful of rods that are too stiff for the weights you throw. They won't load so you might as well be using a broom handle.

Notaro - what's the longest rod you use now comfortably? What brand model is it? And what kind of distance & comfort do you have with it...

Thanks,

John

John, I use a 8 ft calyspo beachcomber combo or 8 feet zebro combo. but the tip of the zebro is ruined and the reel of the the beachcomber is dull. So I threw the reel away. I need a matching reel for my rod. i never use eels because i dont do a night fishing. because i got no car and it will upset my parents. Now, I currently owned a 9 ft star-something company produced combo. it doesn't really help me that much. b/c of the reel. im gonna buy me a light one for me to cast smoothly and far. i tried using arra's method, but it's hard, y'know? im not good with the pendelum.

SH, I never tried a 10 ft.

if you can wait till spring fishing.....and you hook up with one of us...I am SURE you could "test" a few rods and maybe get a better feel for what works for you!!!!;) ;)

I hope so. I can't wait to go fishing with all of you. It sure beats staying home.

NO KIDDING!!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I hate to be isolated in one place, y'know? But fishing all the time can be unhealthy for us because we don't exercise.

I hope I don't ruffle any feathers here, particularly since I am new to this board, but I think there are times where a longer rod is fine for repeated casting of lures.

I cast mostly down in Hatteras which is big rod country due to the distances have be achieved fishing relatively flat beaches. Unless one has a very slight build or reoccuring shoulder/back problems, I don't think a 12 foot rod is too big for lure casting.

I am only 5'8" and 43 years old, and I have casted 12 foot Tica, 11'9" breakaway, and 12.5 seeker for hours using tins like crippled herrings without any problems. See a fair number of others who are not particulary large who cast very large rods without any problems. A lot of it has to do with casting techicque

I agree with most here that all things being equal, a nine foot rod is more pleasant to cast (and work a lure) than a longer rod. On the other hand, a nine foot rod is not going to get the distance of a comparable 11 foot rod.

It comes down to what type of fishing to you want to do. Is it necessary to cast long distances where you fish?, are you simply reeling the lure in or do you have to play it a lot? or do you simply like rocketing lures a far, far, ways.?

That being said, most of the time when I fish in New England (Plum Island), I find that a 9 - 10.5 foot rod serves most of my needs. Good luck.

Tom

Hey Duck - welcome to S-B! Beuaracrat, eh? Won't hold it against you.

You're right about the long rod but there are a couple things to consider. Even though you all have the fish over the winter (and we want 'em back very soon! ), when we get them from April thru Dec, they are often in close, like REALLY close and a 8, 9, 10 foot rod is fine, easy on the body, and easier - often - on the wallet. One thing that is nice about up here is that the majority of fishing situations doesn't warrant the big rod @ 12 feet. IMO - one is better off with a smaller & more versatile rod before getting the 12 ...

Notaro - don't know what a zebro is but I'm guessing Zebco... Anyway, any B&T shop can change the tip for you and if the rod is broken near the tip and not the tip itself, it can be cut flush and a different tip installed - really not a big deal and would probably cost you $5 - 10...

Uhhh - the fishing a lot of us do makes walking 18 holes look weak too. I suppose if you plane to fish hull gut and spike a rod in the car's drink holder, yeh there is not much exercise, but some of fish places where we walk miles in beach sand, hop a lot of rocks, & move from place to place to fish where we want. Believe me - if you are a moble surfcaster - there is exercise involved...

BTW - the "something star" is probably a Silstar... so so for off the shelf, I've had some before going custom...