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BigFish 08-21-2009 10:33 AM

I should have just gotten in his face and been done with it......I did show some restraint!!:fight:

PaulS 08-21-2009 10:34 AM

Unfortunatly, everyone needs to remember that workers basically no more rights.

fishbones 08-21-2009 10:41 AM

Larry, forget about it and don't look back. You have better things in your future than that job provided you with. No job or customer like that is worth giving a second thought to. Get out and fish and enjoy time with your family and friends. :fishin:

Swimmer 08-21-2009 10:59 AM

Should have smiled at him Larry, and when you placed the pallet of very heavy quickrete on his trailer a design flawed in the trailer wold have become obvious when it collasped to the pavement under the weight of the pallet.:uhuh:

FishermanTim 08-21-2009 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fishbones (Post 706731)
Larry, forget about it and don't look back. You have better things in your future than that job provided you with. No job or customer like that is worth giving a second thought to. Get out and fish and enjoy time with your family and friends. :fishin:

I couldn't agree more.
"Like water off the back of a duck", just move on knowing you were/are the better man!

striperman36 08-21-2009 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& (Post 706631)
No Larry you are a representative of the company you work for. You just don't do stuff like that and expect to keep your job. You are the image of the company.

There's no grounds for a wrongful termination lawsuit here. He openly called a customer an a$$hole. He was terminated for just cause based on this. I'm not an attorney but I'm willing to bet you could check with any attorney that specializes with labor claims and he'd tell you the same thing.

Edit and what Jenn said above is spot on.

Hope you find another job, it's going to be tough now with 10% jobless.

Don't forget MA is an 'at will' state. No contract exists between you and the employer. You can be terminated any time for no reason.

Joe 08-21-2009 11:10 AM

You seem disgruntled....I say you should go back there and show them that they can't do this and expect to just walk away intact.

Gloucester2 08-21-2009 11:26 AM

I've met Larry, I've talked to Larry . . . I come up to about his elbow
This guy must have been nuttier than squirell %$%$%$%$ :uhuh:

The Dad Fisherman 08-21-2009 11:33 AM

At Will doesn't mean they can just Chit Can you.

There still has to be a reason for a firing. You can be laid-off, but that doesn't affect your ability to collect Unemployment where being fired can affect it.

Covenant of good faith and fair dealing exceptions (aka. "Implied-in-law" Contracts)

U.S. states with a covenant-of-good-faith-and-fair-dealing exception

Only eleven U.S. states have recognized a breach of an implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing as an exception to at-will employment. These 11 states are:

Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
California
Delaware
Idaho
Massachusetts
Montana
Nevada
Utah
Wyoming

This exception for a covenant of good faith and fair dealing represents the most significant departure from the traditional employment-at-will doctrine. Rather than narrowly prohibiting terminations based on public policy or an implied contract, this exception – at its broadest – reads a covenant of good faith and fair dealing into every employment relationship. It has been interpreted, by some courts, to mean either that employer personnel decisions are subject to a “just cause” standard or that terminations made in bad faith or motivated by malice are prohibited.

Slipknot 08-21-2009 04:04 PM

Oh well, their loss Larry, I guess they don't know a hard worker when they see it, but they have rules. Can't say as I blame you for losing it a bit , the guy showed you zero respect and you took it up to your breaking point. Referring to him as an ahole within earshot:hs: you must have known he would rat you out.

Now you can get that job at Dunkin Donuts you've been waiting for and show them how it's done :rotf2:

have a great vacation big guy:buds::fishin:

ProfessorM 08-21-2009 06:08 PM

Oh well at least you didn't belt the douche bag and get sued. Just a job, you'll land on your feet. Enjoy your vaca and worry about it after you get back.

flyvice11787 08-21-2009 06:20 PM

Wow, just saw this. Sorry to hear you lost your job, Larry. When you deal with the public all the time, you'll end up meeting some real a**holes :smash:. It's worse for me, as I'm a supervisor, and have to deal with the rude obnoxious customers that my employees can't deal with. Rule of thumb is not to talk back to them. I've learned to hold my tongue. I don't let them get the satisfaction of getting a rise out of me. Nothing gets them madder than when I point out that the customer may not always be right (with a straight face and without insulting them :D). Hope it all works out for you.

Raider Ronnie 08-21-2009 07:03 PM

Walmart is always looking for door greeters !
I know the one in Walpole Ma. even has a Dunking Donuts just inside their front entrance where the greeter works !

BigFish 08-21-2009 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Slipknot (Post 706822)
Oh well, their loss Larry, I guess they don't know a hard worker when they see it, but they have rules. Can't say as I blame you for losing it a bit , the guy showed you zero respect and you took it up to your breaking point. Referring to him as an ahole within earshot:hs: you must have known he would rat you out.

Now you can get that job at Dunkin Donuts you've been waiting for and show them how it's done :rotf2:

have a great vacation big guy:buds::fishin:

Thats funny Slip!!:rotf2: Almost spit out my coffee!:rotf2:

bassackward 08-22-2009 10:52 AM

Sorry to hear the news. You can stand tall (not a problem, having seen you) knowing you stood up for your principles. You'll get through this and look back on it proudly. I hope to go out in a blaze of glory and expletives when the day comes. People just don't respect eachother any more. We're all fed up, even those with good paying jobs. Too bad we don't often get a mulligan for having a bad day with a short fuse.

Does anyone know the difference in collecting unemployment when it comes to quitting vs getting fired?

RIROCKHOUND 08-22-2009 11:03 AM

Warning:
Not P.G.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkcoobYUu8g

Joe 08-22-2009 11:17 AM

They should never have outlawed dueling - makes people think twice before they sh_t all over someone.

buckman 08-22-2009 01:05 PM

Sounds like you did everything right and played it cool until you called him an ahole. That's where you lost your job.

BigFish 08-22-2009 07:13 PM

So be it Buckman....when you piss gasoline on an open flame.......there will be an explosion!:uhuh:

buckman 08-22-2009 07:41 PM

File for unemployment and go fishing on there dime.

Pete F. 08-23-2009 08:27 AM

In the early 70s I worked at Killington. Of course there were obnoxious customers there as everywhere. Of course you could'nt call them names. We called them turkeys but never to their faces. But sometimes, when they were walking away, you would hear this gobbling sound from the employee.:bshake:

Backbeach Jake 08-23-2009 09:42 AM

When I first started working in P-town sone 40 odd years ago I worked a parking lot in the center. The Bosses nephew would come out to keep an eye on me from time to time. This guy took zero crap from anyone, ZERO. It was a dollar to park all freakin day then (!!) and once in a while people would hand you 50 cents and say to put in in my pocket the boss would never know. A guy tried that with the Nephew and in turn got the mortal %$%$%$%$ slapped out of him. The nephew ask how dare you call me a theif and try to bribe me for half a effin buck! The look on the guys face was priceless. I said Geeze you just can't do that. and he said where were you?, I just did. Some time the chicks would be greasing the lovelys with Sea and Ski in an atempt to distract me from the money. Those were my favorite days.....

UserRemoved1 08-23-2009 11:14 AM

Made the Ch 5 mid day news today

The Dad Fisherman 08-23-2009 12:16 PM

Who Did...Larry?

Tagger 08-23-2009 04:17 PM

I would think you could legally refuse to wait on someone who was dropping F Bombs in your direction . Personally I find that very abusive . We all have bad days but wifeys testimony makes it sound like a regular thing .. I'd like to be with you if this guy showed up local one night .. I'll tear up the little pieces .. Larry ,,, you gotta do something about that Irish whisper ..

TheSpecialist 08-24-2009 11:01 AM

Larry sorry to hear the news. No one person makes enough money to ever take that %$%$%$%$ from a customer. I am always in the customers house dealing with them, and as soon as it get to the point where I am gonna punch u in the face, I walk away telling them someone will be back. I get in my truck and leave. I call a foreman and tell em to go talk to the customer and then send someone else to do the job. I have the right to be treated with RESPECT. People should learn to not bite the hand that feeds them. It's too bad in this world that managers no longer stick up for employees..

FishermanTim 08-24-2009 11:17 AM

It's really amazing that most (if not all) companies in the service industry will bend over backwards to accommodate the customer, and they wonder why they have a hard time retaining employees?
It's equally amazing that these same companies will WASTE time and money to RE-TRAIN their employees to deal with customers (in otherwords, kiss a$$ with a sheet-eating grin) because their business is doing poorly.
Gee, if customers knew that no BS would be tolerated the moment they walk in the door, if they knew that you will be treated in the same manner that you treat our employees, if they knew that the customer ISN'T ALWAYS RIGHT, then maybe you could turn more profits than personnel?
Do these companies realize that if you piss on or neglect an employees' basic civilized rights at work, that eventually you will have made more enemies than customers? W@ord of mouth can really do a number for a business, whether good or bad!

Swimmer 08-24-2009 01:41 PM

A manager should take over a customer like this. Let them earn thier money.

BigFish 08-24-2009 02:53 PM

FT....They lost a world class employee in me! I was the best in the store with customers, knew many by name as repeats, made them feel comfortable and I had them asking for me by name when they came in! Alot of nice folks would come in sprinkled with a few tools! The Specialist was a customer of mine.....took care of him like I took care of anyone else!:uhuh: Even he lived to tell about it....right Bill!?:rotf2:

TheSpecialist 08-24-2009 04:05 PM

Larry always went out of his way with his customers every time I was there I saw this. I am not going to be shopping there anymore.

likwid 08-24-2009 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& (Post 706631)
No Larry you are a representative of the company you work for. You just don't do stuff like that and expect to keep your job. You are the image of the company.

There's no grounds for a wrongful termination lawsuit here. He openly called a customer an a$$hole. He was terminated for just cause based on this. I'm not an attorney but I'm willing to bet you could check with any attorney that specializes with labor claims and he'd tell you the same thing.

Edit and what Jenn said above is spot on.

Hope you find another job, it's going to be tough now with 10% jobless.

I'm not an attorney either but I manage a team of 20+.

Larry called him an %$%$%$%$%$%$%$ and he heard it.
Thats abusing the customer.
You will find most businesses have that as a zero tolerance item that is grounds for immediate termination.

People need to let go of abusive customers, yep, they're %$%$%$%$%$%$%$s, and you most likely will never see them or talk to them again in your life. So why let some retard jeopardize your income? Esp. in this economy?

BigFish 08-24-2009 09:10 PM

Because I refuse to be treated like crap for the paltry sum they paid me per hour! I would rather have my pride and self respect than that friggin' job! I made my bed and there are no regrets here!:uhuh:

Backbeach Jake 08-24-2009 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFish (Post 707405)
Because I refuse to be treated like crap for the paltry sum they paid me per hour! I would rather have my pride and self respect than that friggin' job! I made my bed and there are no regrets here!:uhuh:

I agree whole heartedly there, Larry. Your vacay reading assignment is "The Fountainhead" by Ayn Rand

Slipknot 08-25-2009 04:16 PM

Wow , this thread is still going

you got it Larry, your pride is worth a lot more than Lowes pay.
face it, you just couldn't help yourself
you knew it would happen sooner or later

BigFish 08-25-2009 04:22 PM

You are right Bruce....if not now...soon!:uhuh:


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