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maddmatt 10-28-2009 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish (Post 719912)
I was against the 2 @ 28" when they brought it......who needs 2 fish a day??? Many take the 2 fish every time they go out........who eats that much fish??? I voted 1 @ 34"!!:uhuh:

i do

maddmatt 10-28-2009 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Back Beach (Post 720120)
Some charter skippers actually do two trips per day and could legally keep 28 fish per day, believe it or not.

12 fish X two trips=24 fish

2 more fish each for skipper and mate=4

24+4=28

cap n mate are only allowed 2/day

not /trip

WoodyCT 10-28-2009 11:12 AM

1 @ 36"
 
Hoping it will prevent guys from high-grading 28" fish and killing multiples.

No commercial season.

No fishing in spawning areas just before or during spawning season.

Earmark license funds to protect spawning habitat and step up fisheries enforcement.

Got Stripers 10-28-2009 11:19 AM

Slot
 
I'd like to see a slot, one small and one 36 or 42+ plus, I like to eat an occassional striper but smaller is tastier.

Saltheart 10-28-2009 11:46 AM

I think this poll on a striper fishing message board will be much different than the same poll with average Joes. If you participate in a striper web site and read the board and take polls , odds are you will be an avid fisherman who number 1...catches planty of fish over 36 and number 2 have a concern for the fishery.

You would not believe the number of fisherman who go maybe 1 or 2 times a year and cannot catch a fish at all. If they do , its likely a 24 or 26 inch fish. They don't get to keep anything. There are probabl;y 10 of these people to every one of us who are more into the sport.

Anyway , If the poll on a striper site comes out any way other than showing the fewest number of bigger fish I would be very surprised. Just remember that of 80 guys vote that way here , there are probably 800 guys out there who would vote the other extreme of the largest number of small fish.

Grapenuts 10-28-2009 11:52 AM

one fish per person..26-28"....said it before, you up to 36" and these folks who really don't know how to fish will kill more trying to get to that 36" fish....stiffy is right, keep it small....all others get tossed back..take your pic and release it if you feel the need to beet on your chest.

MakoMike 10-28-2009 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bassballer (Post 720007)
As crafty mentioned Coast wide is the key. From Maine to Virginia.

It already is coastwidel. Except for a small section of Chesapeake Bay, it 2 at 28 or stricter all along the coast.

zimmy 10-28-2009 01:07 PM

1 between 22" and 27"

slow eddie 10-28-2009 01:18 PM

one between 18 and 26in. best eating and we shouldn't eat more than one a month anyhow. let them reproduce.

Pete F. 10-28-2009 01:28 PM

Actually I like Maine's slot limit, 1 fish it can be 20" to 26" or over 40". I think there is some fairly sound fisheries management science behind it.

Islander77 10-28-2009 01:28 PM

Personal opinion
 
I think we should copy the recreational policies of Chesapeake Bay fisheries, One at 18"-24" and one "trophy" above 40" with special permit during spawning... But reg season is still 2 a day 28" minimum... And as far as commercial goes I think they should go to quota fishing end of story once the limit hits its OVER done I think they should do tis with most fisheries to be honest. It works the best...

niko 10-28-2009 02:21 PM

as a meat fisherman it pains me to say it but i would be in favor of a 50% reduction in the harvest of stripers both comm and rec. for recs 1 fish at 28"-36" plus some sort of trophy (44"+?) clause and cut the comm quota by half. it would be nice to see the waters teeming w/ bass. that being said we better make sure these bass have enough to eat inshore, ie more pogs and less dogs

Mike P 10-28-2009 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by piemma (Post 719944)
Just so you guys know, I will post the results when the Poll closes on Nov 1.
So far, you will be amazed.

The results are hidden for everyone but Administrators, Moderators and thread starter.

But I'm not surpeised ;)

tattoobob 10-28-2009 08:44 PM

The one thing that needs to be fixed is the bait, netting needs to be limited and the seals need to be thinned out once this happens the bass will be alot stronger

BassDawg 10-29-2009 03:31 AM

1 @ 36", leave the breeder males ALONE!!!

if ya can't reach that mark, then get better or stay the EFFF home!
and leave your trash, landing strip lights, and stinking
white buckets home TOO!!! just my humble opinion, gents!
:bl: :bl: :bl:

iamsaws77 10-29-2009 10:02 AM

I think 1 fish at 30" -36" slot

Then you have to buy a license to keep any fish over 45" and limit that at 3 for the season. (calm down its just an idea)

It'd be like getting a doe license. Aren't the big girls the best breeders? isn't that the idea? With cameras everywhere these days do you need to drag it home anymore? The meat isn't even as good.

angler229 10-29-2009 07:15 PM

I've thought about this subject a lot this year. A couple of things I've noticed is in the few times I've been outside the three mile range either tuna fishing or on bass tagging trips for the state there is no shortage of bass offshore. I personally think this has a lot to do with where the majority of the bait is. If you take river herring for example in years past there were millions of fish going up and down runs and billions of juveniles dropping out, basically providing a season long inshore food source, thus giving a reason for fish to stay inshore. Now with these runs in peril the food source is greatly reduced giving fish far less reason to stay inshore. What I'm trying to say is, the bass are going to go where the bait is and right now there is a lot more bait offshore than inshore. So by just lowering bag limit I really don't think you are going to see much of an improvement of the inshore fishery. All that being said I would be in favor in a reduction of the bag limit to 1 @ 28" which still gives your average Joe a chance to take home a fish.

joe the plumber 10-29-2009 08:13 PM

1 @ 28"

zimmy 10-29-2009 08:19 PM

[QUOTE=BassDawg;720387]1 @ 36", leave the breeder males ALONE!!!
QUOTE]


Target the females and leave the males alone?

Doublerunner 10-29-2009 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BasicPatrick (Post 720043)
I woud bet any amount of money that if we posted al the availabe info on mortality as it relates to size limits and the spawning productivity charts as they reate to size limits that almost all on this poll would change their minds.

Just an observation.

Best idea is to spend some time at the upcoming ASMFC Annual Meeting being hed in Newport RI next month.

It would be great if the ASMFC did not hold their meetings at 1:30 on a week day. Some of us have to work...

MakoMike 10-30-2009 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Doublerunner (Post 720572)
It would be great if the ASMFC did not hold their meetings at 1:30 on a week day. Some of us have to work...

The guys who are attending these meeting are working, just like you and I do, its their job to attend the meeting. Besides, this is NOT a public hearing, those are almost always scheduled after "normal" working hours.

Islander77 10-30-2009 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BassDawg (Post 720387)
1 @ 36", leave the breeder males ALONE!!!

:

Breeder males???? Umm majority of fish at 36" and bigger you catch is gonna be a female... Male bass dont get that big just to let you know you have the science backwards... In most other mammal communities the female is the bigger less attractive colored one... So keep in mind all the trophy bass caught are generally female....

Islander77 10-30-2009 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MakoMike (Post 720652)
The guys who are attending these meeting are working, just like you and I do, its their job to attend the meeting. Besides, this is NOT a public hearing, those are almost always scheduled after "normal" working hours.

unless its today and they are in glouster protesting at the NMFS building... DUMB... I been up in the point last couple days seeing the flyers and what not....

MakoMike 10-31-2009 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Islander77 (Post 720657)
unless its today and they are in glouster protesting at the NMFS building... DUMB... I been up in the point last couple days seeing the flyers and what not....

I was referring to the guys who make up the ASMFC!

Fisherman Brian 10-31-2009 04:47 PM

Its hard to guage. I agree, 2 fish a day is a bit waistfull.
There is scientific research that says we should be letting the big guys go due to better gene pools/larger spawns from them as opposed to the smaller. But with the size restriction smaller does that mean more overall fish will be caught and brought home?

Islander77 10-31-2009 05:29 PM

oh ok Mike.... I just saw the fliers for the protest... I know a lot of the guys down there feel accosted by NMFS but its a necessary evil IMHO

Sea Flat 10-31-2009 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigFish (Post 719912)
I was against the 2 @ 28" when they brought it......who needs 2 fish a day??? Many take the 2 fish every time they go out........who eats that much fish??? I voted 1 @ 34"!!:uhuh:

I could not agree more!!

Tagger 10-31-2009 07:57 PM

1 fish at 36 did wonders last time ... bring it back please

piemma 11-01-2009 02:36 AM

RESULTS
 
Almost 50% (49.19% )of the voters favored 1 fish 36"

19% voted for 1 fish, 34"

17% 1, fish 28"

14% 2, 28"

The really interesting stat is the 86% of the voters favor dropping the bag limit to 1 fish a day. How the heck to we get the fisheries management people to listen.

the point 11-01-2009 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 720226)
Actually I like Maine's slot limit, 1 fish it can be 20" to 26" or over 40". I think there is some fairly sound fisheries management science behind it.

I agree with the slot limit it. Been saying that for a while.
I rather keep 28" fish over a 50" to eat any day...but I just can't catch em that small:hihi:

JamesJet 11-01-2009 12:03 PM

Wow the poll is closed
 
If I had a say it would be the slot 20 - 26 or one over 40. The smaller fish are perfect eating size, target some males and also the filets would have less mercury PCB etc. If I had to choose a second it would be simply keep one fish at 28. No need for two. I have done it one occasion when we have a big party and want to serve fish but that is maybe once a year.

intrepid24 11-02-2009 07:26 AM

.....time for a short-term, coastwide moratorium. maybe 1-2 years. maybe get a few strong year classes established.

Tagger 11-02-2009 08:26 AM

Poll has me curious . Wish I could see voting results vs fishing region . Just wondering where the people who like 2 fish a day are fishing . If they are strictly boat fisherman ?

Ed B 11-02-2009 08:38 AM

The really interesting stat is the 86% of the voters favor dropping the bag limit to 1 fish a day. How the heck to we get the fisheries management people to listen.[/QUOTE]

They do listen to recreational fisherman Paul, unfortunately our recreational interests are put forth by the booming voices of the Party and Charter Boat industry.

In addition to striped bass, look at the seasonal openings and bag limits for Fluke, Tautog, Scup. It's all about getting people onboard a charter and paying a fare to stock their coolers.

In my opinion there should be seperate categories of fisheries advisors for recreational fisherman and charter boats, and the recreational advisor has no financial stake in recreational limits.

The only way to get our voices heard is to show up at meetings and state our case and that is something that recreational fisherman dont do particularly well.

Ed

Crafty Angler 11-02-2009 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed B (Post 721023)
They do listen to recreational fisherman Paul, unfortunately our recreational interests are put forth by the booming voices of the Party and Charter Boat industry.

In addition to striped bass, look at the seasonal openings and bag limits for Fluke, Tautog, Scup. It's all about getting people onboard a charter and paying a fare to stock their coolers.

In my opinion there should be seperate categories of fisheries advisors for recreational fisherman and charter boats, and the recreational advisor has no financial stake in recreational limits.

The only way to get our voices heard is to show up at meetings and state our case and that is something that recreational fisherman dont do particularly well.

Ed

Rightly said, Ed...:kewl:

I went to an open meeting of the RI Striped Bass Advisory Council with DZ for the 1st time maybe 5 or 6 years ago expecting an auditorium meeting only to find maybe a dozen fishing folk there around a table in a small room

I think DZ and I were two of the VERY few there - if not the only two - who were not charter skippers - the bias toward charter boat interests was immediately obvious

If money is involved, it's a vocation not an avocation and not recreational

Ed's right - muttering among ourselves and shaking our heads will accomplish nothing

The make-up of the advisory boards with a commercial stake will always skew the results until there's some parity with not-for-profit representation

topwater popper 11-02-2009 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesJet (Post 720931)
If I had a say it would be the slot 20 - 26 or one over 40. .

I voted for one at 36" but I personally agree with this, Maine has it right. Even with a narrower slot, say 22-26".

But, I don't eat fish, I never kept a bass, not one. Revive and release them all. It's my choice to do so.

intrepid24 11-02-2009 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piemma (Post 720896)
Almost 50% (49.19% )of the voters favored 1 fish 36"

19% voted for 1 fish, 34"

17% 1, fish 28"

14% 2, 28"

The really interesting stat is the 86% of the voters favor dropping the bag limit to 1 fish a day. How the heck to we get the fisheries management people to listen.

just wondering if anyone would have voted for moratorium, had it been on the board......

Redsoxticket 11-02-2009 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piemma (Post 720896)
Almost 50% (49.19% )of the voters favored 1 fish 36"

19% voted for 1 fish, 34"

17% 1, fish 28"

14% 2, 28"

The really interesting stat is the 86% of the voters favor dropping the bag limit to 1 fish a day. How the heck to we get the fisheries management people to listen.

Attend the RI Striped Bass Advisory Council meetings with an agenda and state your concern.
All the resources are here on S-B (i.e members) and all we need is a leader and since you initiated this poll along with your knowledge and experience you would make a good candidate.

We have trouble organizing a S-B leg event let alone something of this magnitude unless there is a raffle or food involved. :)

MAKAI 11-02-2009 03:52 PM

Food ?:uhuh:

Krispy 11-02-2009 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tagger (Post 721022)
Poll has me curious . Wish I could see voting results vs fishing region . Just wondering where the people who like 2 fish a day are fishing . If they are strictly boat fisherman ?

1 of those fishermen lives and fishes in CT :uhuh: 2 @ 28"


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