I know in years past allot of people built 2 plugs for contests. One for overall and another geared at a specific category. So I think that should still be an option for people.

So here is what I'm thinking we have 5 categories...
Best of Show
Best Representation of a Classic
Best Rookie/Novice Builder
Best Novelty Plug
Best Flaptail Plug

So in the end we have one ballot with the 5 categories. Everyone that enters a plug should include a notecard with the categories (all plugs are automatically considered for Best of Show) that they want the plug entered. Then as the plugs are displayed for voting they can be arranged by category.

I agree:uhuh:

Perfect
yes, please include the card with your entries.
Dan seems to have the jist of this contest thing :btu:

any more input?

I found this beauty thanks to KarlF :)


OK,

1. bigger place - CHECK

2. plan better, I have been working on it and thought I got started on it plenty early. I will need others help on the day of also.

3. We should do some sort of PDF on a thread where everyone will be required to print it out and include it with their entry/entries.sounds like a plan to me.
put it in your paper bag with your plug.

Who is going to organize this? volunteers? step right up one of you plug building computer expert geeks, because if it's left up to me, it won't happen unless my daughter helps me:smash::wall:

HELP! please:soon:


I can try to make up some signs for the tables so guys know where to go with what plugs for what contest. that may make it less confusing.

THANK YOU

I'm not a computer geek but I'll do my best to help out. From my perspective we only need something to explain plugs in the Representation of a Classic category unless the builder feels the need to give people extra information about their plug. So I'm thinking on this form, Original Creators Name, a picture of the original, and any other information deemed noteworthy about the reproduction. If that sounds good I can make up a sample for people to follow.

Also I don't think a form is totally essential with entry but it is nice to have an understanding of where the plug came from.

"Document better within some classes of the competition. Maybe next year we have a "form" that people fill out on the classics, better explaining the job and intent. I noticed this was lacking when I was getting handed paper bag after paper bag."


I think the part about John being handed paper bag after paper bag, is why something besides your name needs to go with the plug.

And as far as voting purposes, last year we had no idea which plugs were in the classic category.

That is a start Dan, Thanks

Classic plugs are great, but last year Prof.s bass-aqua should have won hands down, as I saw nothing else that came close..in there lies the problem...if your not a classic collector and don't know the history behind the many that are out there...the adj. joe shouldn't be voting in that catogory...I over heard a few say...whats that thing? and his fishmaster got nothing but head scratching from the crowd.

agreed. I don't know jack squat about older plugs (and very little about newer ones). I would not feel comfortable voting in that category.

yep

ok a solution?

I am trying to atleast get it so the plugs are placed on the table in appropriate categories = novice/classic/general/flaptail

I am not the one who began this contest at plugfests and have had very little help since, a few have helped in the past like Bigfish,canalman,TTimber, Frank and JohnR etc. So if you can organize a separate ballot for the classics and a panel of judges Steve, then I can't see a solution to your observation. Ask the guys that are knowledgable in that area who will be attending if they can be judges or something. My plate seems to always be overflowing at this event. If that is what can be done to make it more fun and enjoyable for all than I am all for it.
Thanks

Another option would be to just put a note on the ballot that if you are not familiar with classic plugs don't vote for this category.

I can give a hand if needed. its the least that I can do.

PDFs, Signs for the table..whatever.

who else is a classic plug collector here on sb other then VB an CS an perhaps the prof.??..there must be a closet collector or two hiding in the wings that go to the fest...yes-no?....if not that leaves only those two/three to decide the fate of the best classic repro....are they willing? /CS says :uhuh:he'll do it...I'll pm the other two an see what their thoughts are....stay tuned.


maybe george would care to be included too.

I collect just no where near the level of the VB and CS, but have done my research on the vintage stuff.

I like the idea of judges for the classic category and CS,VB,Numby are some of the most knowledgeable guys around.Bruce give me a call and i will see if i can help out with ballots or whatever as i am not an expert on the pc but i work next to one and have access to printer and such.

Bruce, just another idea.

If you are still planning on having seperate tables for each category, what if you had single category ballots on each corresponding table?

It may make it a little easier for voters this way. And that way they vote on the categories they are familiar with.

5 tables, 5 ballots, 5 boxes. Or split each table, one category per half. This way you have more room for builders to display.

Just an idea to try to help limit the confusion.

ok....george...peter an steve are on board as judges....prof. is working..so we gotta wait till after daylite to hear from him.Figure any plug that get atleast two or better votes gets a wet kiss from VB.In case of a tie, the two top plugs will get voted on again.

How's this for an entry form for the classic plugs.

You'd have those at the fest for folks to fill out when they come in with their baits?

those forms could be linked offa here, download it, and print it out at home...

ask CS about downloading, heard he downloads about 3 or 4 times a day...."Depends"....

;)

No, I would set up in Document form that people could download off of the site. That way anyone entering could fill it out before hand and hand it in when they submit their plugs.

OK, that looks good for the classic plug, thanks
we also need one for other categories that can be downloaded and printed.

I hope that makes sense to people.

We don't have room for multiple tables just for this contest, we'll set aside tables for
1 contest
2 a few tables for guys like Joe,bigfish,VB,2na and Eric for their displays of plugs or jigs.
3 raffle plugs and items
4 a couple near the kitchen for food
5 all the rest I guess will be a free for all every man for himself to share to put your stuff.

Door opens at 9:00
I will get there early to set up and will post a list of those who will be allowed to come early to set up.

since we now don't need the classic plug on the ballot
here are the 4 categories

Best of Show
Best Rookie/Novice Builder
Best Novelty Plug
Best Flaptail Plug

[QUOTE=Slipknot;744249]OK, that looks good for the classic plug, thanks
we also need one for other categories that can be downloaded and printed.
I hope that makes sense to people./QUOTE]

Can you tell me what info you want on an entry form for other plug categories? I'll set up a document entry form people can download later today for the classic category, and post it with an example.

classic plug judges:

Prof.
VB
Numbskull
CS

done..good to go.

excellant, thanks

OK
first the contestants name should be in the bag with the plug on a separate piece of paper.

the form should have a place for the category the plug goes into multiple choice to keep it simple

1. general
2. Flaptail plug
3. novelty plug
4. rookie

list those and then the contestant may choose one

also there should be an area for a short description of the plug = color, type of plug etc. so the form can stay on the table next to the plug.

finally a large box for us to assign a number to the plug. John usually keeps a master list so ballot counting goes faster and we know who wins what.

is that understandable?

I'll work on the ballots

Thank you Grapenuts:grins:

I wasn't going to do a Flaptail plug for the contest because A. I did not have alot of time and B. I had nothing to use as reference....however this morning I woke up and carved out a couple hours to get one done! I used a Flaptail ProfM had given me as a size reference and I used the pictures from Steve's "Some Plugs" thread that he had taken of his own Flaptails!! So I got one in the works I am happy to say!:uhuh:

Are hooks optional on contest plugs?

I would have to say yes they are necessary as it goes towards design and craftsmanship and shows how well the hooks are placed and how they hang...its part of the plug. Is there a reason you don't want hooks on it?:confused:

No just wondering. I thought it would be easier for many to handle and fondle!!

Put hook guards on it, its the only time I use them all year.

The contest plugs are not to be touched, picked up or fondled at all. Drooling on yourself is recommended but we do try to keep paws off not only because we do not want to damage someones work but trying to avoid five finger folks from helping them selves.....hey it happens!

SO NO TOUCHING!

I'm pretty sure the judges can handle the classic plugs.

Grapenuts,How about asking EricW if he'd be a judge also? :huh:

I guess I should add \ Best Restored Plug

If he'd like..he's welcome to, 5 wood b better then 4 .

best repro classic plugs will be handled "only" by the judges.

entering more then one classic won't be no-no..go for more if it pleases you.In the end they'll b only one plug that will b the winner.

OK,Eric is in.