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Raven 11-25-2009 01:45 AM

i'll believe improved access when i see it............:confused:

Swimmer 11-25-2009 07:52 AM

$10.00
 
Just a shot in the dark here, but I would imagine the SW license and getting caught fishing without one will fall under the same exact law as the FW license. And not that I ever enforced that particular law I believe it is an arrestable misdomeanor. You can also be summons, but you can be arrested also.

The administrative costs are the "friends of Deval" he hasn't found a job yet for.

JohnR 11-25-2009 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary (Post 726028)
BS, That is the Deval way out.

So Does your Drivers Licence cover you in say California?
Atleast with the federal licence, you would be good wherever you go.

This sounds as ass backwards of when a commercial vehicle conducted buisness in another state it had to be tagged in that state.

Lets go Re-invent the wheel, ( It's a little known secret In Massachusettes we do it best).

All said and done were all going to piss and moan about it but no one will have the stones to stand up and say %$%$%$%$ YOU Im not doing it. Collectivly everyone has just bent over and taken it the hard way because as a group we all talk hard, but when it gets to doing, individuals roll over at the drop of a hat. Just contributing to the Wussification of America.


Ill probably get kicked off here with this post but oh well.

Why would you get kicked off? For arguing a point (two years late)?

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Originally Posted by gone fishin (Post 726031)
Comments are amazing..I wonder where all the above writers were when Patrick Parquet and the other political activists from MSBA - MBBA - and all the clubs were asking for comments and input on the FEDERAL mandate. I for one think we got the best we could get after much fighting and arguing. I don't like the fact we are getting hit with a fee to fish and am apprehensive about the future use of the funds, but this is NOT a State of Mass only mandate. Didn't RI legislature pass a similar bill only to have their Governor veto it ? That will make interesting reading next year.

We did get the best deal we are going to get in Mass. We got vetoed on the best deal RI was going to get.

Time for a new politicians are cheaters too site

OLD GOAT 11-25-2009 08:53 AM

Happy Thanksgiving Dudes. I have a different concern. How will this licence help me on the outer cape to cast from the beach through more than 6-8000seals and expect to land a fish,any fish without a seal grabbing it. I would like to have you think about a slow rabbit on a dog track and you can get an idea. I,m sure the clowns will have a clause in the licence in regard to competing against the poor seals and there right to assembly to desecrate all protein in a small area. Regardless of whether you fish or not how can anyone that has any concern for conservation allow this wipe out of all protein in an area without realizing that the seals need to be thinned out. notice i didn't say killed. Just a thought

clambelly 11-25-2009 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by numbskull (Post 725868)
10 for me......no big deal
10 for each of my grown kids......OK
10 for each of my kids' visiting friends from college who want to go fishing once...ugh
10 for the neighbor who would like to go out if the wind that am is not too much.........aaaaagh!

Will there be some kind of "take a friend fishing once" exemption? Or some kind of transferable multi-person option?

From Senate Bill, No.2200
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(f) The director may designate not more than 2 days in each year as free recreational saltwater fishing days. A person may take saltwater finfish for noncommercial purposes on a free recreational saltwater fishing day without obtaining or possessing a permit or paying a permit fee as prescribed in this section; provided, however, that a person who takes saltwater finfish on a free recreational fishing day must comply with all laws, rules and regulations governing the holders of a recreational fishing permit and all other conditions and limitations regulating the taking of saltwater finfish.
read it all right here...
http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/sena...02/st02200.htm

Old Goat...im sure they will incorporate a seal stamp which will require you to pay more in the following years since you may inadvertantly compete with the seals for the stripers and blues...seals have rights too you know..

Tagger 11-26-2009 09:28 AM

I took the day off from work and protested against this at the DMF 100 sallinstall building Boston when Phil Coates was the man .. seems like 15 yrs. ago maybe more . I use to go to those meetings where they say Bio Mass a bunch of times ?? well here it is .. Its all BS in my opinion .. hail the almighty $$$ .. Its money swimming around ,,not fish ,, soon as the numbers are up, so is the pressure to hammer the fish . They paint the picture to whatever suits thier needs . $$$ Politics ... my 2 cents

Backbeach Jake 11-26-2009 10:18 AM

No government has ever given anyone anything, governments are all about taking things and rights away from one group because another group makes a bigger noise. In this case, the only people who gain are the fish counters.
The only way to fight them is to organize, on the same page, write our representatives that's what they are you know, and vote, vote, vote. If they can't do our bidding or decide to represent other interests, then vote their arses out.
This license is just another fine example of our(the fisherman's) failure to do just that. It's so easy to call or e-mail your rep in Government. Didn't do it. You have to watch them closely, too. Sadly, time for bitching is over and time to pay up is here. It ain't gonna go back, but maybe we can keep increases reasonable.JMHO.

BasicPatrick 11-27-2009 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary (Post 726028)
So Does your Drivers Licence cover you in say California?
Atleast with the federal licence, you would be good wherever you go.


Gary this statement is not correct. The Federal Rule clearly states the federal plan must be state by state.

Many of the questions being posed in this post have been answered on this board over the past year or two. Another great way to make sure you have good info is to check with your local fishing club.

Raider Ronnie 11-27-2009 01:59 PM

Every one here complaining about $10 :rotf2:
From what could find out through Patrick my lic will be $125.00
And should I go on a friends boat who is rec or go surf fishing , I also need the $10 rec lic !

BigFish 11-27-2009 02:02 PM

Its not the $10 Ron its the principle of A. Having to pay for the right to fish the salt and B. Wanting to be sure the money gets where it is supposed to go!

buckman 11-27-2009 03:09 PM

In RI, where I would imagine the same Federal policy exists as in Ma., if you have a Fed HMS permit you do not need a state license.
I won't be getting a license nor will I ask anyone fishing on my boat to get one. I'm registered as far as I know.

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http://www.fifthestateci.com/clients...t.Sheet.RI.pdf

This is the NOAA fact sheet!!!

piemma 11-27-2009 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingah (Post 725866)
It's only $10. If the money is used for what it is supposed to be used for then it is a good thing. I rather keep the money in state then have to pay for a federal permit @ $15-$25.....

Which is exactly what the nitwit RI Governor did..... defeated the RI license so we have to buy a federal permit in 2 years.

macojoe 11-28-2009 06:23 PM

When my kids were young I would take them to the beach fishing crabbing ect ...ect... Money was short in them days and we would have fun for free!

There is nothing you can do free anymore and feel sorry for the people that are short cash, what are they going to do free now??

$10 gets us in the door wait till it goes up, up, up! Going to by access? YEA RIGHT!!
What we getting for are money?? More regulation!!
As far as saying there is nothing we can do, If no one pays what they going to do?? Put us all in jail??
We have become sheep, just follow them around, we need to all stand up, not just the few!! State or Feds if we ALL say NO they will listen!
We or I already pay tax and fees for a boat trailer truck, ramp fee's, were is all that cash going.

We pay for fresh water cause they raise the fish and stock the ponds, Are they going to stock Bass, Fluke, Sea Bass, Scup, Blues?? NO

I fish commercial and will do Scup & Sea Bass in April, Fluke in May & June & July, Bass July & Aug, Sea Bass & Scup in Aug. Spet & Oct Tuna

Nope no $$$ for Rec fishing!!:fury:


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