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RIROCKHOUND 01-22-2010 09:47 AM

Did you ever see ME not Kieth Oldberman etc, Good old RIRock, say he was a right wing radical?
I know full well what Scott Brown is. I question whether he continues to be this right of center republican, when the party line seems to be much further to the right (but still left of Scottw and detbush :D)

Yes, if he does stick to his ideals, and is willing to work across party lines NOT acquiesce, but actually do what he thinks is right, then yes, it will be beter for all of us. We need MORE of that on both sides. This overly divided house and senate is not good for any of us. You have the republicans with their hands over there ears singing -la-la-la-can't hear you-la-la-la to everything, and the Democrats are saying "I'm going to take my toys, and your toys and do what I want with them". neither is good for the country.

RIJIMMY 01-22-2010 09:53 AM

understood, thanks for clarifying

scottw 01-22-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 741314)
Did you ever see ME not Kieth Oldberman etc, Good old RIRock, say he was a right wing radical?
I know full well what Scott Brown is. I question whether he continues to be this right of center republican, when the party line seems to be much further to the right (but still left of Scottw and detbush :D)

Yes, if he does stick to his ideals, and is willing to work across party lines NOT acquiesce, but actually do what he thinks is right, then yes, it will be beter for all of us. We need MORE of that on both sides. This overly divided house and senate is not good for any of us. You have the republicans with their hands over there ears singing -la-la-la-can't hear you-la-la-la to everything, and the Democrats are saying "I'm going to take my toys, and your toys and do what I want with them". neither is good for the country.

I'm comparing how he was portrayed during the campaign(did you miss all of the ads???) to all of the whining and hoping and revisionism that now exists here and among the press and talking heads that he now prove that he is not any of what he supposedly was and not become a tool of the radical right wingers... which is pretty funny and predictable...Al Franken was also seated recently and I don't remember any calls for Al to be bi-partisan, reach across the aisle and be more of a centrist and not just fall in "lock step" with the dem leadership which is the ONLY DEMONSTRABLE RADICALISM THAT YOU CAN POINT TO AT THE MOMENT!!!!!

you have a party engaged in the destruction and take over of the private sector, a president that has determined that the result of the recent election is simply a function of the fact that he didn't talk enough and Americans didn't understand him so today he's out talking...again......JUST WORDS!!!! Mr. President

more bi-partisanship, as the dems would define it would be the republicans helping to move their insane agenda along.....F them!

but let's hope that Scott Brown is a good little centrist and on and on...gimme a break...

hey Rock...just for fun...name an issue where my views would be considered far right wing......

I'll help you with the biggies, if you believe recent polls my views are in line with the majority of Americans regarding..size and scope of government, taxes, business regulation, abortion, global warming/climate change, healthcare, immigration...according to the polls this is still a center-right country...I must be a real freakin' radical teabagger...:devil2:

now compare that to someone that wants ever larger and more intrusive government, universal healthcare, global warming/climate change legislation, publically funded abortions, greater government regulation and taxation on businesses...amnesty and open borders...I think this describes many dems and most of the representatives that they've elected based on what we are witnessing...:confused:

RIROCKHOUND 01-22-2010 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 741331)
I'll help you with the biggies, if you believe recent polls my views are in line with the majority of Americans regarding..size and scope of government, taxes, business regulation, abortion, global warming/climate change, healthcare, immigration...according to the polls this is still a center-right country...I must be a real freakin' radical teabagger...:devil2:

I would bet I could find polls that put the majority with me as well.
polls are like our opinions, we all have one, and everyone else thinks theirs doesn't stink.

You really believe you are the dead center bellwether for Americans?
I know I'm left of it, but come on...

scottw 01-22-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 741346)
I would bet I could find polls that put the majority with me as well.Please, I'm waiting
polls are like our opinions, we all have one, and everyone else thinks theirs doesn't stink.

You really believe you are the dead center bellwether for Americans?
I know I'm left of it, but come on...

I didn't say I was dead center...
oh...almost forgot...I'm also with the majority of Americans regarding Obama's job approval as of the most recent poll:rotf2:


and I agree with 77% of investors(and Warren Buffett apparently) that Obama is anti-business...which shoud bode well for the economy and job creation...but surely those milions and millions of "GREEN JOBS" will fill the void and solve all of our problems :rotf2:

likwid 02-01-2011 03:08 PM

So a year later.

Has he lived up to his killing of Obamacare?
What about his leadership?
Getting on those tough issues?
Driving the pickup truck?

Piscator 02-01-2011 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by likwid (Post 833058)
So a year later.

Has he lived up to his killing of Obamacare?
What about his leadership?
Getting on those tough issues?
Driving the pickup truck?

Has he lived up to his killing of Obamacare? Well, the people spoke and he was voted in to kill it, Obama and the Dems didn't listen to the people and passed Health Care by "Reconciliation" (which was truly meant for taxation and spending). It is a way to get around the required 60 votes necessary. It 100% BS and the administration that did this should be ashamed of themselves. This wasn't designed for the use they used it for. Shame on them.

What about his leadership? He is not a right wing republican and hasn't been the poster child for his party as he will cross party lines. This isn't a bad thing and I think he should get credit for doing that. As for leadership, a year is a very short time but I think he has held his own and has done well. So far he has done what he said he would do by being an independent thinker and voter. I would say this is true for most 1st year Senators in the minority party.

Getting on those tough issues? Which ones specifically? He got on Healthcare, Gays in the Military, and Spending/Deficit. Nothing earth shattering but he has his stance and working well to execute it.

Driving the pick up truck? Yes, and some people are all over him because they say it's a gas guzzler.

buckman 02-01-2011 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by likwid (Post 833058)
So a year later.

Has he lived up to his killing of Obamacare?
What about his leadership?
Getting on those tough issues?
Driving the pickup truck?

Why don't you do Obama's 2 year review?:rotf2:

likwid 02-01-2011 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 833100)
Why don't you do Obama's 2 year review?:rotf2:

Why would I?
I never claimed he was going to change anything or any of the other BS posted between this thread and multiple others. :rotf2:

Piscator 02-01-2011 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by likwid (Post 833116)
Why would I?
I never claimed he was going to change anything or any of the other BS posted between this thread and multiple others. :rotf2:

Obama's changed things, just not the things people wanted him to change.

fishbones 02-01-2011 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by likwid (Post 833058)
So a year later.

Has he lived up to his killing of Obamacare?
What about his leadership?
Getting on those tough issues?
Driving the pickup truck?

You really are a buffoon, huh? Do you read about anything other than what Barney Frank is doing?

It takes about 2 seconds to make you look like an idiot whenever you decide to come in the political forum with your embarrassing lack of knowledge.


Scott Brown outlines proposals to grow jobs in Bay State - BostonHerald.com

Sen. Scott Brown targets health care tax provisions - BostonHerald.com

Scott Brown, John Kerry take aim at corporate income tax - BostonHerald.com

Oh, by the way, he's also voted on about 120 issues and has had only 1 "No Vote".

likwid 02-01-2011 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishbones (Post 833153)
You really are a buffoon, huh? Do you read about anything other than what Barney Frank is doing?

It takes about 2 seconds to make you look like an idiot whenever you decide to come in the political forum with your embarrassing lack of knowledge.


Scott Brown outlines proposals to grow jobs in Bay State - BostonHerald.com

Sen. Scott Brown targets health care tax provisions - BostonHerald.com

Scott Brown, John Kerry take aim at corporate income tax - BostonHerald.com

Oh, by the way, he's also voted on about 120 issues and has had only 1 "No Vote".

Oh, you mean 'shovel ready job' voting?
Along with promising to cut gov spending yet pushing for the F-35 BACKUP engine project?


So, lets talk about his voting record.
That he only voted "no" on once.

Project Vote Smart - Senator Scott P. Brown - Voting Record

Vote to pass a bill that establishes the Small Business Lending Fund to fund capital investments to financial institutions to provide loans to small businesses, establishes the Small Business Credit Initiative to fund state capital access programs for small businesses, and expands various tax deductions.

No to that.

Vote to concur with House amendments and adopt additional amendments to a bill that amends the filing deadline for an extension of unemployment benefits from June 2, 2010 to November 30, 2010, and amends the termination date of the Emergency Unemployment Compensation program from November 6, 2010 to April 30, 2011.

No on that.

Vote to concur with House amendments and adopt additional amendments to a resolution that appropriates funds for the federal government until March 4, 2011. (3082)

Yes on that.
Wait, I thought he was against government funding?

Vote on a motion to invoke cloture on a bill that establishes new disclosure requirements for political advertisements and other regulations for the financing of campaigns and political advertisements.

No on that.
I mean why would ANYONE want to know where they're getting their funding?

One no vote?
Really?

fishbones 02-02-2011 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by likwid (Post 833186)
One no vote?
Really?

Are you really that dumb? Really? Do you even understand the difference between a "No Vote" and a "No" vote? Come on dude, even you can figure that out can't you?:rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:

A "No Vote" means that he either abstained from voting or was absent from the vote. That's why I put both words in parentheses, genius.

And yes, he voted against Obamacare.

And as a Freshman Senator, he's introduced several proposals in Congress. I'm not sure what else you want for leadership from a newbie?

Tough issues? You can look at Obamacare and Don't Ask, Don't Tell. They would be considered "tough issues".

Truck? I think he's still driving it, but I'm not sure. I guess it's a big deal to you, but not to me.


Pwn'd

RIJIMMY 02-02-2011 11:25 AM

he voted to fund the functioning of the govt and likwid said he thought he was against govt funding, thats pretty funny

I think hes been a reasonable republican, hes voted against the party line. Way more than you can say for 99% of the dem sentators that voted lock step with Obama until they saw the polls and results of the mid-terms and went wee wee wee all the way home

JohnnyD 02-02-2011 11:43 AM

As of Dec. 1 (couldn't find more recent data), Scott Brown holds a 53% Favorable rating and only 29% Unfavorable.

Not too bad for a Republican Senator in a strongly Democratic state.


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