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JFigliuolo 05-03-2010 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe (Post 765953)
... Might as well take out a loan to open a Jewish deli in Baghdad.

F!U! You said you'd keep it hush hush!

RIJIMMY 05-03-2010 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by likwid (Post 765787)
I'm just going to ride around on Eben's back.

http://sarcasticgamer.com/wp/wp-cont...er-blaster.jpg

maybe get some strap on roller skate attachments?

Thumper 05-03-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pbadad (Post 765814)
IP those are the boots I mentioned. Light weight. I have those in thestream cleat. They wern't available last summer else those would of been on my foot. PM me your e-mail address. I sent you a copy of the article.

pbadad did you have any problems with with the stock studs being a different height when you are out on the rocks?

pbadad 05-03-2010 05:06 PM

I don't use the studs that came with the original boots. Just the snowmobile carbide studs.

RIROCKHOUND 05-03-2010 05:15 PM

3/4" SS Bolts with lock nuts.
Duct taped to my boot were the best for stability, grip and durability.

Plus, added workout. could lose 10lbs a night sweating on a long walk and build some serious calf muscles!

ivanputski 05-03-2010 08:26 PM

losing weight is over-rated... Obesity = status

I weigh 165... hard times

Thumper 05-03-2010 08:39 PM

pete do you have both the studs, the ones that came with the ultralights and the wearbars? just trying to fig out how much of a difference in height it would be to throw some of the wearbars in there.

ivanputski 05-03-2010 10:23 PM

havent done it yet. new boots, wearbars are in the mail... But intend on using only the wearbars... not the small screws that came with the boots. Since the WB's are longer, the short screws wont even touch the rocks and are just along for the ride. If you already put in the small screws, I'm certain you can remove them, and put the wearbars in their place, since they have a wider thread than the provided screws. The screws that come with the boots are good for a few outings, (or trout) but the quickly round out and become very slippery... i tried sheet metal screws last year... worked ok for a few nights... I intend on putting 20 spikes on each boot... as soon as I get them, I'll take photos of my boots before, during install, and after in this thread... should be by the weekend.

Thumper 05-04-2010 10:32 AM

ya i have the older model boots that came with the studs already in them, might try just pulling thoes out or just getting a new pair

Needmore Salts 05-04-2010 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ivanputski (Post 766043)
losing weight is over-rated... Obesity = status

I weigh 165... hard times

hahahha thanks man, u always know how to make the big guy feel good..

Thumper 05-04-2010 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ivanputski (Post 766063)
The screws that come with the boots are good for a few outings, (or trout) but the quickly round out and become very slippery..

just checked my boots and the studs, sure enough rounded out pretty good like you said. glad you started this thread before i learned the hard way.

Redsoxticket 05-04-2010 05:37 PM

ivan ski, if the only reason you don't like korkers is because the soles pop off and you want a permanent studs the is a easy solution.
Bolt down the sole and replace the interchangeable stud soles when they wear out.

I have a question, what stud types and size can you add to an existing interchangeable stud sole without piercing the main boot inner sole

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ivanputski 05-04-2010 09:30 PM

http://wearbars.com/images/Product/TLS500-48.jpg

1/2 inch wear bars... just like these, but shorter threads...

and bolting just the sole of k-5000's to my boot is a good idea, but you would need alot of bolts all the way around the boot... any gap greater than inch or two and sand will pry its way in between, creating lumps (I'm speculating here) but good idea as well. I love hearing ideas...

Redsoxticket 05-04-2010 10:21 PM

Sorry for the confusion but I was referring to fastening the interchangeable soles to the "korker boots" not the korker sandal K-5000 to an ordinary wading boot.

What is the depth of the interchangeable stud soles of the "korker boots", hopefully greater then 1/2 inch ?
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afterhours 05-08-2010 07:33 AM

just got the simms headwaters and am putting on the 1/2" wearbars-could be the answer...i hope.

MAC 05-08-2010 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 765675)
Some of the places I fish I need to be quiet going in so I don't wants studs crunching asphalt by people's homes. Need to be quiet.

walk in the dirt on the side of the road...:jump1:

pbadad 05-08-2010 10:41 AM

Don you won't be dissappointed.

Pete F. 05-09-2010 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MAC (Post 766874)
walk in the dirt on the side of the road...:jump1:

Just tell them you are demoing a new method of lawn aeration.

Thumper 05-10-2010 09:14 PM

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22 wearbars in each boot. i was going to put 2 more right in front of the 5 in the back but for some reason the boots didn't want to take them. all other studs went in fine without any problems. at first i was worried about the studs that went into the felt would sit higher but you can crank them down to just about the same height. you just have to be careful not to over tighten them. great idea by pete and bill!!! :cheers:

pbadad 05-11-2010 06:22 AM

Nice job. The height difference is so slight I don't see a problem. I noticed that when I did mine but it wasn't an issue. With the 3/4' thread length studs you have the option to add a s.s. washer beneath the stud on the receptacle hole to further extend the stud out to match the sole mounted stud hieght. I will mention one caution, when standing on extremely heavy bubble weed check your stability by grinding for a grip. Thats the only negative difference between the ss screw modified Korkers and the studded boots. With the out of box Korkers the studs I did the same as the the studs are the same height.Good luck with the modification.

DZ 05-11-2010 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 767292)
22 wearbars in each boot. i was going to put 2 more right in front of the 5 in the back but for some reason the boots didn't want to take them. all other studs went in fine without any problems. at first i was worried about the studs that went into the felt would sit higher but you can crank them down to just about the same height. you just have to be careful not to over tighten them. great idea by pete and bill!!! :cheers:

Thumper et all,

Let us know if the studs stay put after a few outings. I've also been looking at those boots.

DZ

JohnR 05-11-2010 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MAC (Post 766874)
walk in the dirt on the side of the road...:jump1:

No dirt ;)


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Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 767292)
22 wearbars in each boot. i was going to put 2 more right in front of the 5 in the back but for some reason the boots didn't want to take them. all other studs went in fine without any problems. at first i was worried about the studs that went into the felt would sit higher but you can crank them down to just about the same height. you just have to be careful not to over tighten them. great idea by pete and bill!!! :cheers:

Nice work gents - look forward to the results.

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Originally Posted by pbadad (Post 767309)
I will mention one caution, when standing on extremely heavy bubble weed check your stability by grinding for a grip. Thats the only negative difference between the ss screw modified Korkers and the studded boots.

Can you clarify? I'm missing the difference - thanks!

afterhours 05-11-2010 07:02 AM

i think billys referring to the difference in the amount of exposed metal between the two...the boot stud vs the end of the bolt plus the nut on the converted korkers..

Redsoxticket 05-11-2010 04:38 PM

John it sounds like the korker studs have less service area (sharper point) which leads to a better pearcing of the bubble weed then the SS bolts which have a larger surface area.

Thumper 05-11-2010 05:20 PM

any rock i get on in the surf i usually always grind the surface just to see what im dealing with. i make sure to get a good purchase not only to cross some eyes but for when the three sisters come.

Thumper 05-11-2010 11:18 PM

just got in from the first time using them. boots are very sticky on the rocks and i felt pretty confident with them on if a wave came. we will have to see how the studs hold up throughout the season but i think these are definitely a winner.

pbadad 05-12-2010 06:26 AM

Thats great. The comfort and performance of these studded boots will bring pleasure to those rock hopping nights. Keep us posted. I have a few members going this route and they also have the same reasons for changing.

JohnR 05-12-2010 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by afterhours (Post 767317)
i think billys referring to the difference in the amount of exposed metal between the two...the boot stud vs the end of the bolt plus the nut on the converted korkers..

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Originally Posted by Redsoxticket (Post 767398)
John it sounds like the korker studs have less service area (sharper point) which leads to a better pearcing of the bubble weed then the SS bolts which have a larger surface area.

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Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 767452)
just got in from the first time using them. boots are very sticky on the rocks and i felt pretty confident with them on if a wave came. we will have to see how the studs hold up throughout the season but i think these are definitely a winner.

Sounds good... How do the sizes on the boots run relative to regular sizes? Sometimes they say to order your regular show size (that they allow for the stocking foot) and they still come in way too small.

Thumper 05-12-2010 08:08 AM

i orderd one size larger than my reg shoe size and they fit great. i hate when they tell you to order the same size as ur reg shoes, it never works.

pbadad 05-12-2010 05:36 PM

I have both sizes in the boots. the one 1 size larger fit much nicer. Both work but I prefer the bigger one. cabelas says to order your shoe size LLbean says 1 size larger. keep in mind I wear size 14. There isn't many options. guidewear and ultra lights in 15 fit great. The ultra lights in 14 are ok w/ my breathables socking foot but the neoprene stocking foot has a 3.5 mm foot so it's tight. John if you need boots to thread the studs in go with the light cabelas ultra light boot. I've used them 7 years with great service. I have the the newer ones 2 yrs. I wish I bought the ultra lights in 15 but at the time last year they were not available in my cavernous size. The guide wear boot was. My buddy says I should of just studded the box!!!!!!

afterhours 05-14-2010 05:03 PM

simms headwaters w/ wearbars :love: lightweight when wet and traction city...

ivanputski 05-14-2010 11:10 PM

A few close up shots of my boots with wearbars... looking forward to fishing without the ankle weights!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4051/...abe43632_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1424/...0d487c4e_o.jpg

22 spikes per boot (for now) 14 went into the rubber spots meant for stream screws, the rest were screwed straight into the felt... if you are looking to go this route and have felt bottoms without the fancy new rubber spots made to receive screws, dont worry... to be honest, the screws actually feel like they hold and tighten up better directly into the felt...




http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4034/...7298bc7c_o.jpg

pbadad 05-15-2010 07:25 AM

Nice looking . You used washers to bring up the stud height in the rubber receivers?

ivanputski 05-15-2010 09:25 AM

yes, in an attempt to equalize the height

JohnR 08-02-2010 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ivanputski (Post 765581)
We all know korkers are a must, but I hate the idea of the 2-pounds of rubber I strap on my feet to simply put a few studs under my feet. I dont like Korkers boots with interchangeable soles... the things fall off... an besides, i dont want to change the soles! I want spikes at all times, minus the extra weight... I think my winter-long quest may have ended. narrowed it down to 2 brands of screw-in carbide spikes that go directly into the sole of your boot, and stay there... (even when you walk into mobil for a coffee... sorry Dan!) The choice comes down to wearbars, or best-grip spikes... Wader Stud Info
the best grip have a super-wide thread that looks like they will stay put. Anyone use either of these? My new boots have felt soles with rubber spots for provided "stream screws" which are garbage, but will hold the ones I hope to buy. If anyone has any first hand experience, please share... I hope my days of surfcasting with Richard Simmons ankle weights will come to an end, and my mile long walks will be a bit lighter... I'll let you know how things go. Then I'm going to burn my korkers like those hippy broads burned their bras in the 60's!
http://www.wearbars.com/images/Product/TLS500B-48.jpg
These are the wearbars... the best grips look even better

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Originally Posted by pbadad (Post 765732)
IP, my partner and I have used the same concept all last season. Block, Cutty, Squibnocket and local. Zero problems and convenient. I used the cabelas guide boot and he the Chotas. I added 7 more studs to the felt soles. total 21 spikes. These spikes are carbide and are used on snow machine tracks.Wear like iron. No signs of wear. Heck i'd be putting new studs in Korkers if they can be threaded twice ina season. I too had issues on long walks w/ 2 lb sandals. I did ss bolt route in the corkers soles also but the weight was a killer. You won't be dissappointed. I actually wrote an article for our club's newsletter this month on this concept. If you look at the cabelas Ultra-lite boots they now come with stud insert receivers. These are 1/2 the weight of the leather wading boots. I used these with the unreplaceable studs and they were very comfortable. I wish they came out b/4 I went and bought the leather ones. Either way this is a great improvement over the sandals.

Which ones did you get? I'm assuming you got the Aggressive stud but I want to be sure - thanks!

About Wader Studs | Premium Studs For Wader Boots

tattoobob 08-02-2010 08:12 PM

These are the ones you want

http://www.wearbars.com/ProductDetai...?productID=246

ivanputski 08-03-2010 12:50 AM

25+ nights on narragansett's rocky coast, 4 trips to Block, Not one crushed spike, not one lost spike... I will never wear Korkers again... If you are wearing K-5000's after reading this thread, you're crazy...
ask yourself this question: is your personal comfort, as well as the added convenience of less gear
to pack worth 46 dollars? Then get on it... There is no more question or doubt if they work, hold up, or compare to korkers... they have been rigorously used and abused by at least a dozen guys on here.
Unless korkers actually makes a boot that has threaded receivers for their spikes directly built into the sole, I believe wearbars will quickly become the new standard in a few seasons... I tell so many people about them you'd think I was getting a commission! Do yourself a favor, order them YESTERDAY

numbskull 08-03-2010 06:24 AM

I agree. I went Don's route with the Simms headwaters and wearbars and have been very happy. They've held up great and are more comfortable than I thought they would be. I did find it better going in dry rock when I removed the one stud under the ball of my foot (big toe side).

JohnR 08-03-2010 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tattoobob (Post 785440)
These are the ones you want

Wearbars.com - Product Details

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Originally Posted by ivanputski (Post 785472)
25+ nights on narragansett's rocky coast, 4 trips to Block, Not one crushed spike, not one lost spike... I will never wear Korkers again... If you are wearing K-5000's after reading this thread, you are either stubborn, or just plan stupid.


THanks guys - that was what I was looking for - the earlier link didn't look just right.

Pete F. 08-03-2010 02:21 PM

John,
I probably outweigh those guys by 50-75 #s @ 230. I have torn out some studs and rolled some. Some of this is due to my boots, LLbean rivertreads, but I think it is also pounds per stud. Mine are wearbars. All that said I still like them better than Korkers and will not go back. The simms boots that I looked at have stiffer soles and should have less roll problems.


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