:smash::smash:

Whats the problem ?
Is it not a fact they donated big $ to his campaign ?

You mean the same amount they donated to all the past campaigns?

Oh wait, its the "most" ever. Cuz Rush says so. Seig Heil!

What's wrong with it is that they throw money at a ton of politicians - Dems and Repubs alike. So these "Obama is in bed with big oil" comments are asinine.

This is not a 'blame it on bush comment'

How much did BP et al., give to Little Bush? Clinton? Big Bush etc?

I bet it is all on par.

status quo unfortunately.

Actually this was a Palin-ism. :rotf2:

Palin: A Slip on Oil Industry Ties? - Washington Wire - WSJ

So now not only can she see Alaska from her house, but she can't do math worth a damn.

The problem is that people turn on the radio, hear something that criticizes someone from a political party that isn't theirs and they take it as gospel. It's much easier to agree with the bitching and post little quips on the internet than it is to do research.

As soon as it was known to be a major spill, Obama should have called all the agencies involved, MMS, Dept Interior, EPA and ALL the Oil company CEOs to the White House and mapped out a plan and found out all the equipment that would be available to contain the spill.
That's what a Leader would have done.

Who said he didn't?

-spence

Bush did it.

Me. :) Ya think he kept it a secret? :huh: :rotf2:

We all know Obama is doing more then any President before him has.

Give it a few more months and when the new well is open every thing will be fine.

I had no idea they did not have technology to stop an oil leak after a major accident at a deep-water well in less than ninety days - wtf....

It is pretty incredible huh?

Seems like the industry has just snowed the government into believing the technology was sound.

Well.

That's all about to change.

-spence

technically they did.........
except the installed fail safe was failing (for 3 months)
long before the rig exploded

British Petroleum succeeded in d#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g the protocols
designed to prevent this catastrophe because it had no
predecessor other than a ship run aground in Alaska.

Or according to the Washington Post Article on Saturday, some inspectors
from the MMS allowed Companies to fill out their own reports and that some government inspectors accepted favors from oil companies.

While it's still to early to know where the blame lies at the rig, one thing is for sure,
unless honesty and integrity exists on both sides of the coin, the citizens will always pay.

In a Capitalistic society, "honesty and integrity on both sides of the coin" will never exist. Where there's money, there's greed.

If money was the only driving force for greed, and if money only existed in a Capitalistic society, and if elimination of greed would guaranty "honesty and integrity", then elimination of Capitalism would guaranty "honesty and integrity".

The trouble is, the presence of money is not limited to capitalistic societies. Nor is money the only driving force for greed. Nor is greed the only obstacle to "honesty and integrity".

A whole lot of qualifiers in there that have nothing to do with my comment. A simple comment, effectively turned into nonsense.

it was a stupid comment...he was just trying to help you out a bit :uhuh:

This, from the king of nonsense comments.:smash:

Nothing wrong with money itself, it is a good thing,
but it's "the Love of money" that is the root of all evil.

Precisely. At least someone has some common sense.

Then let me get rid of the confusing qualifiers:

"Where there's money, there's greed." Although sometimes true, it is not usually so. Most transactions involving money are routine and not a product of greed.

Nor does greed require money to exist. One can have a rapacious desire not only for more money than he needs, but for more food, more power, more sex, more of any commodity, or activity than he needs.

"In a Capitalistic society 'honesty and integrity on both sides of the coin' will never exist." Not true. Honesty and integrity often do exist on "both sides of the coin" (between buyer and seller) in a capitalistic society. It is probably more important for the survival of privately owned businesses to maintain degrees of honesty and integrity than it is for State owned entities that can dictate and enforce obediance and for whom integrity may be irrelevant.

Insofar as money can drive greed, it does so in all modern societies, not just capitalistic ones.

Greed existed before money existed. Greed existed before Capitalism.

Your comment is not as simple as you think. And it is full of nonsense.

Ed Markey blamed Bush for the oil spill on Wolf Blitzer's CNN's Situation Room
today. :yawn: :sleeps: