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AL617 06-19-2010 02:27 AM

Ssu built ngc would be Right up your alley. With a vs 200 I would go 30 20 16 10 10 10 10 and a tip, that's how I built mine with tHe same reel.
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numbskull 06-19-2010 05:30 AM

What he said. BMNAG guides with those numbers.
At least look at a rod built that way before deciding on something else.

Mike P 06-21-2010 01:51 PM

I think I've fished every 10' surf blank ever made. I still have a small forest of them.

The one I reach for most often is an XRA 1205. More power than a 120 1M IMO. And not overly fast like my All Star 1208, which is my next favorite 10 footer. You can still work a pencil easily on a 1205.

And they aren't at all fragile. Don't listen to the internet hype about how all Arras break.

decksweeper 06-21-2010 02:20 PM

1201m is a great rod. I must say though..I've been fishing a 1321l with a foot off the butt for a few years now and I have not had much of a reason to go back to the M. It's lighter and throws everything I need it to. Just my .02

Thumper 06-21-2010 03:50 PM

when you guys cut the blanks, that voids the lifetime warranty correct?

numbskull 06-21-2010 04:44 PM

Pretty hard to break a big GSB lami.

spence 06-21-2010 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 775289)
when you guys cut the blanks, that voids the lifetime warranty correct?

That's what I've been told by more than one person/dealer...

-spence

Surf Caster 06-21-2010 09:20 PM

Do you plan on using this rod more than the other rods you already have (i.e. your "every day" rod). If so, I think the versatility of the GSB 120 1M is a great choice. If you're building this as an eeling stick (realizing you may also throw plugs) then I think it makes sense to consider some of the other suggestions people have made (the super surf, etc.) as they may fit that application a bit better than the 120 1M.

I don't fish eels all that often so I can't opine as to which would be the best blank for the specific application. However, if versatility is what you're aiming for then I think a 120 1M is a pretty safe bet.

Just my $.02

Saltheart 06-21-2010 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 775289)
when you guys cut the blanks, that voids the lifetime warranty correct?

Unfortunately , yes.

ivanputski 06-21-2010 10:32 PM

Saltheart... saw the rod you built for thumper last night... very nice work!

RIROCKHOUND 06-22-2010 07:23 AM

Guide reverberation? Wobbly?
you guys are way too picky!

My 1201M is scratched, ugly, needs new cork tape and has had multiple guides rewrapped. IMHO it is the best all around Rhode Island rod. Throws eels, lighter chunking, plugs, and can stand a 25 on her head when needed.

Saltheart 06-22-2010 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivanputski (Post 775373)
Saltheart... saw the rod you built for thumper last night... very nice work!

Thanks. he tells me he's been catching fish on it too! :)

JeffH 06-22-2010 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 775289)
when you guys cut the blanks, that voids the lifetime warranty correct?

Not necessarily. The two rods I have broken, both Arras, the factory asked for 6" either side of the break.

spence 06-22-2010 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 775407)
Guide reverberation? Wobbly?
you guys are way too picky!

This coming from a guy who's tolerance for quality is making sure the thru wire comes out somewhere in the front 1/3 of the blank :devil2: :hihi:

-spence

Nebe 06-22-2010 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike P (Post 775254)
Don't listen to the internet hype about how all Arras break.

come down to RI and fish a 1084 for a few weeks off the rocks. Oh SNAP.

Nebe 06-22-2010 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 775540)
This coming from a guy who's tolerance for quality is making sure the thru wire comes out somewhere in the front 1/3 of the blank :devil2: :hihi:

-spence

HAHAHAHA....

likwid 06-22-2010 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 775407)
Guide reverberation? Wobbly?
you guys are way too picky!

My 1201M is scratched, ugly, needs new cork tape and has had multiple guides rewrapped. IMHO it is the best all around Rhode Island rod. Throws eels, lighter chunking, plugs, and can stand a 25 on her head when needed.

The one I got from Nebe was scratched, ugly, just put XWrap on it because the cork was a pile of steaming poo (thanks Saltheart for the advice, it came out great) gets hit by the ceiling fan at least once every couple weeks and still stops fish dead in their tracks out here at MTK.

RIROCKHOUND 06-22-2010 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 775540)
This coming from a guy who's tolerance for quality is making sure the thru wire comes out somewhere in the front 1/3 of the blank :devil2: :hihi:

-spence

Yuck it up Spence.
At least I have seen a bass I didn't buy at a fishmarket this season (or last)

You two nebe.... :smash:

rizzo 06-23-2010 05:53 AM

batson or allstar 1208s are pretty fast - very different than a 1201m. I have a 1205 arra and its fine. If cut down a 1201l can work too but the l's and m's will still feel wobbly to you. I have a 1201m too and its awesome. Give what you said, I think you need to pick between a 1208 and 1205.

Either way, if 95% of the guys here are recommending a 1201m, it may end up fitting your bill in the long run. This blank is stilll very sensitive and provides the needed cushion on bigger fish and braid. Also is forgiving with eels.

SeaWolf 06-23-2010 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saltheart (Post 774563)
Its a complicated business and if you will be spending good money , as you will if you are considering an SSU , you owe it to yourself to discuss it all with a builder , not a guy who is a guide wrapper, a high volume off the shelf dealer or a typical user. There's a place for all those people and a low price that justifies it all but if you will be considering spending a lot of money , talk to a builder.

Putski, this is about as solid advice as you can get. Coming from another rod builder, many can wrap a rod, but not can build a rod.

You received a lot of great advice. It seems that you tried a GSB1201M, but didn't like the "wobble". I don't know how the rod was built for guides and layout, but in general the GSB1201M is a softer, slower graphite blank. The bigger the guides used, the more it wobbles or slower it recovers. When throwing eels, I prefer a rod that bends deeper to add in casting, since eels are not the most aerodynamic things to throw. This blank would be my choice for throwing live eels in a 10' blank. A second choice may be the SSU1201M, which is similar to the GSB, but a little lighter, faster, and tighter in feeling, plus it's a bit more expensive. I do not like fast action rods for throwing live eels, so a 1205 would not be my first choice. However, it would make a nice rigged-eel rod and it a perfect plugging/jigging rod. As others have said, ignor some of the bad rap on the internet for the Arras. I have customers that put their Arra's thru hell and they are still at it. Sure, they had a couple lines that went out w/ defects, which is most of what you read about. The others are production rods built incorrectly. One more thing about the GSB-series, it's about the most durable graphite blank out there, which is huge to me for dependability.

If you do fish braid, do yourself a favor and check out a rod built on the NGC. You will get a light and responsive rod.


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