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RIJIMMY 07-07-2010 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bloocrab (Post 778530)
Kenny, some people will never get it....:smash:


Thats true, if people did get it, we wouldnt have so many beuatoful breeding fish killed for a stupid contest. We'd be practicing catch and release and preserving the fish so we can catch them again. Not to worry, soon, you'll get it.

CowHunter 07-07-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY (Post 778563)
Thats true, if people did get it, we wouldnt have so many beuatoful breeding fish killed for a stupid contest. We'd be practicing catch and release and preserving the fish so we can catch them again. Not to worry, soon, you'll get it.

I can asure you, That fish would of been DEAD weather it was in a stupid contest or not... How many people do you honestlty think would of released that fish??? I wish I had caught that fish but Good for Frankie, hope he wins the month and wins 10K with it!! All my buddies know I do my best to promote catch and release and get tired at me bitchin' at them, I even get a little carried away scolding my clients when they want to kill everything. My boats released a 51 and numerouse 40's this year... Yeah, so many of us like a little competition, it keeps us young at heart.. To each their own..

What happened to all the Bass when the pogies disapeared in Narragansett bay this year?????

Sea Dangles 07-07-2010 12:11 PM

Jimmy,you're full of crap,stop ragging on a guy who caught the fish of a lifetime and give some props to the old codger.That would be hanging on 98% of our walls,end of story.
There was good fishing outside the bay for a good amount of time,lots of big ones caught by those who know how to fish for large.

BigFish 07-07-2010 12:26 PM

Seems like most who bitch about people keeping such fish....have never been so fortunate??!!!! I would bet they would sing a different tune if they caught it!!!! BANK ON IT!!!:uhuh:

CowHunter 07-07-2010 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 778640)
Jimmy,you're full of crap,stop ragging on a guy who caught the fish of a lifetime and give some props to the old codger.That would be hanging on 98% of our walls,end of story.
There was good fishing outside the bay for a good amount of time,lots of big ones caught by those who know how to fish for large.

Agreed that there was quite a bit of large caught right outside the bay, but what happened to all the fish inside, the ones that consisted most of the Rhode island Spring Com Quota the last few Years???

CowHunter 07-07-2010 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFish (Post 778644)
Seems like most who bitch about people keeping such fish....have never been so fortunate??!!!! I would bet they would sing a different tune if they caught it!!!! BANK ON IT!!!:uhuh:

This is 100 Percent correct!!! Or have they even come remotely close....

JohnnyD 07-07-2010 12:45 PM

I'm surprised no "bait is easy" posts yet.

RIJIMMY 07-07-2010 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 778640)
Jimmy,you're full of crap,stop ragging on a guy who caught the fish of a lifetime and give some props to the old codger.That would be hanging on 98% of our walls,end of story.
There was good fishing outside the bay for a good amount of time,lots of big ones caught by those who know how to fish for large.

I never ragged on anyone, just blucrab. And trust me, Im not full of crap. I practice what I preach. I've gone back to the slip on many occasions when I forgot my camera. Just in case I did catch the fish of a lifetime. I guess I'm that 2%.
A week after you catch a fish like that you're left with a memory and a picture. Thats it. So why keep it? The end result is the same. Hey look at my trophy fish - I have some fillets in the freezer! A pic is all that matters. Dont mean to derail the thread. Its a great fish and an accomplishment. IMHO its a greater accomplishment to let it go.

Sea Dangles 07-07-2010 12:47 PM

I don't think the bait was the same as the last few years and I heard the bay fishing reflected such.That's why Jimmy has his panties in a bunch.

RIJIMMY 07-07-2010 12:52 PM

Huh? What does my fishing have to do with this? I released all the fish I caught in previous years.
And for your info, there where PLENTY of bunker in the bay this year. They never disappeared, but come mid-June they are mostly way up in the rivers, sometimes they are in a few harbors. This year was the same as previous years bait wise. Stripers are a different story.

Sea Dangles 07-07-2010 12:52 PM

Jimmy,why keep it?
$10,000.00 reasons to keep it
or at least a $1,000.00 in prizes for a monthly.
If you choose not to participate,good for you. I'm sure the fish rest easier knowing you abstain.

BigFish 07-07-2010 12:58 PM

Why is it when someone keeps a trophy fish...which they are legally entitled to.....and they make the choice to do so as they earned it, some people have to piss all over the place???!!!!! Why can't people keep their personal negative opinions out of a positive thread????

RIJIMMY 07-07-2010 12:59 PM

I rest easier knowing I dont contribute to the decline of a gamefish. We all have to answer to ourselves in the end. I dont hold anything against anyone in the striper cup, commercial fisherman or anyone who keeps their limit. i get pissed when people with an opinion against the majority get jumped on and called jealous or other things, which is foolish. From my view, some guys out here just want to plan their lips firmly on the a$$ of great fisherman, they dont have the balls to speak their minds. If you dont want an opinion, dont post.

BigFish 07-07-2010 01:01 PM

The only logical way you can keep from contributing to the decline of striped bass is to not fish for them at all! Again though....why do people have to piss all over a thread to voice their own little agendas???

CowHunter 07-07-2010 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 778651)
I'm surprised no "bait is easy" posts yet.

You guys have a serious Problem with the bait and it WILL Keep getting worse... In NJ this year we had the Pogie boats, Arc Bait and Several boats from NC in our waters... What does that say? New England is getting wiped out and so is the south.... The Boats were kicked out a few years ago to limit them .6 miles offshore. Wish that was enough because this year they made it up this way and wiped out all the bait that was normally hanging .6 toa few miles out. It got really ugly here. just look at all the threads "Bunker wars" on some of the other boards. Well I can say, although the damage was done with pogies and pitch forking dead bass, rest assured those boats will not be allowed in state waters next year.... All the Charter Boats and rec guys banded together and did something about it! The sit back, watch, do nothing but bitch about it attitude did alot of damage up in new england, first herring and now pogies.... It will get worse, along with the fishing, most impacted will be the surf guys since those pogies gravitate to harbors, rivers. When they pour in and pour out what is waiting? Just look at the surf catches of NJ and Long Island the last few years... In the late 90's early 2000's it was horrible, now look at it... Fix The bait!!

RIJIMMY 07-07-2010 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFish (Post 778660)
The only logical way you can keep from contributing to the decline of striped bass is to not fish for them at all! Again though....why do people have to piss all over a thread to voice their own little agendas???

Im not pissin on the guys fish, Im aiming at those who attacked the previous posts. read the thread.

BigFish 07-07-2010 01:05 PM

I have read it! The thread was posted to congratulate a fellow angler on a great accomplishment!! If you can't stay in line with the purpose of the thread then you are "off topic" and should start your own thread about catch and release!

RIJIMMY 07-07-2010 01:08 PM

point taken, I will graciously bow out.

Sea Dangles 07-07-2010 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY (Post 778658)
I rest easier knowing I dont contribute to the decline of a gamefish. We all have to answer to ourselves in the end. I dont hold anything against anyone in the striper cup, commercial fisherman or anyone who keeps their limit. i get pissed when people with an opinion against the majority get jumped on and called jealous or other things, which is foolish. From my view, some guys out here just want to plan their lips firmly on the a$$ of great fisherman, they dont have the balls to speak their minds. If you dont want an opinion, dont post.

Striped bass are NOT a gamefish Jimmy. Maybe that is a good place to start.
I don't know the angler and have never heard of him either,he could just be lucky for all I know. In my opinion that fish deserved an attaboy. I don't plan on"planning" my lips anywhere near him.I must admit Bloo was smooching up to Ken a little too much though.Ken, please send Bloo an autographed picture for the headboard.

InTheHole 07-07-2010 03:18 PM

Congrats to the angler, that is an awesome fish ( and I would have that fish in the box in a heart-beat ).....
It also appears that this was not so random ( lucky).... Mr. Noto is on the board in the window in the 2nd picture with a 50+ fish already weighed in.

Plum Crazy 07-07-2010 03:26 PM

AWESOME FISH! Congrats to the guy. It's a beauty. :):buds:

RIJIMMY 07-07-2010 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 778687)
Striped bass are NOT a gamefish .

really? defeats the whole purpose of this website.

Definition:
gamefish - A fish prized for the sport involved in catching it.

a little more info if you want Wiki - specifically mentions SB

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_fish

AND - holy crap, the IGFA (the GF stands for Game Fish) actually has a world record for Striped Bass!

bloocrab 07-07-2010 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 778687)
...Ken, please send Bloo an autographed picture for the headboard...

Sea Dangler, that would be for the ceiling, not the head board....and show me your spots, and I'll smooch with you too :love:..don't hate the playa, hate the game.


Jimmy...my comments were meant for SweetWater's (stupid post), uncalled for....if you took it personally or felt impelled to defend somebody....oh well I could care less....you keep releasing em, I'll keep eatin' em. Same debate all the time on here.....this site's turned into a bunch of drama-queens.,,,

Hi CowHunter,,, I LOVE YOU, can you take me fishing??? pleeeease!!!!
I better stop before it gets ugly.

Nebe 07-07-2010 04:11 PM

boatfish dont count



:hidin:

luds 07-07-2010 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bloocrab (Post 778710)
Sea Dangler, that would be for the ceiling, not the head board....and show me your spots, and I'll smooch with you too :love:..don't hate the playa, hate the game.


Jimmy...my comments were meant for SweetWater's (stupid post), uncalled for....if you took it personally or felt impelled to defend somebody....oh well I could care less....you keep releasing em, I'll keep eatin' em. Same debate all the time on here.....this site's turned into a bunch of drama-queens.,,,

Hi CowHunter,,, I LOVE YOU, can you take me fishing??? pleeeease!!!!
I better stop before it gets ugly.

Queens.......haven't heard that one in a while.

Green Light 07-07-2010 07:42 PM

Impressive.

Kudos to the angler.

Driftwood1 07-07-2010 07:54 PM

Holy shhh_ tt did you guys take a good look at that GUT......... He must be a beer drinker. Oh nice fish too! Bet he toasted a few after that one...congratulations

numbskull 07-07-2010 08:26 PM

Ask yourself just what makes it impressive.

Its size? Well obviously, but the fisherman had nothing to do with that.

The technique? Uh.....no. Nothing too special about live-lining large baits for bass. Takes work, and some skill, but hey that is what these fish eat so it hardly qualifies as special.

The tackle. Doubtful. Good bet he had a serious reel, stout rod, and heavy line. And a boat.

The knowledge, dedication, and time he put in to get it? Well that is commendable, but hardly impressive.....loads of guys do the same.

Its value? Yeah, winning a 1000 bucks with a fish I guess can be impressive.

What I think really impresses us is his luck. And before you go ballistic, I don't doubt he is a good and deserving fisherman. But so are thousands of other guys who never get this lucky. It is the fact that it can and does happen, so therefore it can and may happen to us that really impresses us. It is more about the fish itself and ourselves than the guy in the picture.

Now if he had released it.....THAT would say something impressive about him. He didn't (which is OK) and so he'll remain a very good fisherman who got lucky and got his reward and deserves congratulations.......but it is the fish, not him, who was impressive. Too bad it is gone now.

TheSpecialist 07-07-2010 09:17 PM

:cheers:
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Originally Posted by CowHunter (Post 778348)
Well, I can tell you guys that there are alot of 50's that wont make it up youre way this year and they wont even make it to Montauk. Yes, many were killed this year off NJ and NY, but it is a matter of common sense... Those big bodies of fish need a sustainable food supply and will stay close to it... That body, like it does every year will stay near the miles of pogie schools and wont go past Shinnecock, LI... You new england boys need to stop bitchin about killing bass and fix your disaster of a bait problem you have! Only in New england do you have the commercial Netting of pogies in harbors and bays... NY and NJ did their part and thats why the boys are enjoying awesome fishing here even still and its almost mid July and have for the last 4-5 years. Those fish arent heading north period... There have been dozens of 50's killed hear this year, give the guy a break, he got a fish of a lifetime and he killed it.... Im suprised it took this long for somebody to start ragging, sorry the big fish arent stacked for you... You know you do have to kind of work for em?????


Mr. Sandman 07-08-2010 06:07 AM

Isn't this stiper cup fun??? whoohoo!

:rumble:

bloocrab 07-08-2010 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by numbskull (Post 778757)
Ask yourself just what makes it impressive.

.........if he had released it.....THAT would say something impressive about him. He didn't (which is OK)........


If he released a dozen fish between 20 & 30 pounds that day but kept 2 for himself, ...would that IMPRESS YOU???....or are you just mad that HIS 60 will not make it to the end of your line? What really bothers you about this particular angler keeping a fish of a lifetime????....Perhaps you've caught many 60# fish????? Can I fish with you too,,,, PLEEEASE!!!! :love:

RIROCKHOUND 07-08-2010 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bloocrab (Post 778810)
Can I fish with you too,,,, PLEEEASE!!!! :love:

You are such a whore :buds:

CowHunter 07-08-2010 07:57 AM

By the way... Heard a 64 was killed of Block last night!

It was from an extremely lucky angler, he has been very lucky this year and as a matter of fact has had incredible luck the last few years. I mean, who gets lucky enought to get a 53.10, and 51.50 wieghed in for athe cup this year and tops it off with a 64??? MAybe his luck ran out and he wont catch and kill anymore hogs? All those Sterile Breeders at the end of their life which are all dead now???

JohnR 07-08-2010 08:04 AM

OK, folks, lets lighten the mood a bit.

Thanks...

CowHunter 07-08-2010 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by numbskull (Post 778757)
Ask yourself just what makes it impressive.

Its size? Well obviously, but the fisherman had nothing to do with that.

The technique? Uh.....no. Nothing too special about live-lining large baits for bass. Takes work, and some skill, but hey that is what these fish eat so it hardly qualifies as special.

The tackle. Doubtful. Good bet he had a serious reel, stout rod, and heavy line. And a boat.

The knowledge, dedication, and time he put in to get it? Well that is commendable, but hardly impressive.....loads of guys do the same.

Its value? Yeah, winning a 1000 bucks with a fish I guess can be impressive.

What I think really impresses us is his luck. And before you go ballistic, I don't doubt he is a good and deserving fisherman. But so are thousands of other guys who never get this lucky. It is the fact that it can and does happen, so therefore it can and may happen to us that really impresses us. It is more about the fish itself and ourselves than the guy in the picture.

Now if he had released it.....THAT would say something impressive about him. He didn't (which is OK) and so he'll remain a very good fisherman who got lucky and got his reward and deserves congratulations.......but it is the fish, not him, who was impressive. Too bad it is gone now.

I know... Anybody can do it... He does get lucky all the time... Since May he had a 50, wieghed in a 40 every week and released many others...His 59 and other 50's off the SURF are easily accomplished. I mean its as easy as livelining bunker, no special tricks or anything and anybody can find a pod where the big fish are on... Its just soooo easy!

BigFish 07-08-2010 08:06 AM

I can hear the singing of Kumbayah!!!!:gh::gh:

CowHunter 07-08-2010 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman (Post 778803)
Isn't this stiper cup fun??? whoohoo!

:rumble:

Its the usual handful of Hardcore catch and release "stripers4ever" gamefish guys that arent even fishing the cup, just waiting on the beach waiting for the fish to come to them.... (But they are putting in alot of time- Just havent been LUCKY Yet).
The same guys are always crying when somebody kills a 40, 50, or 60.... Its funny, I have yet to see a single majestic pic of even a schoolie being released from some of those guys...


Dont worry, Maybe if everybody stops killing these big fish, you to can get Lucky because then it will be easy!?!?!? JUST TEASING! The same guys will continue to get lucky and kill 40's,50's, and 60's every year....

STRIPER CUP!!!!!!!

RIJIMMY 07-08-2010 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CowHunter (Post 778935)
Its the usual handful of Hardcore catch and release "stripers4ever" gamefish guys that arent even fishing the cup, just waiting on the beach waiting for the fish to come to them.... (But they are putting in alot of time- Just havent been LUCKY Yet).
The same guys are always crying when somebody kills a 40, 50, or 60.... Its funny, I have yet to see a single majestic pic of even a schoolie being released from some of those guys...


Dont worry, Maybe if everybody stops killing these big fish, you to can get Lucky because then it will be easy!?!?!? JUST TEASING! The same guys will continue to get lucky and kill 40's,50's, and 60's every year....

STRIPER CUP!!!!!!!


Its funny you have to insult people to try and make a point. I've barely posted on catch and release and am far from a hardcore tree hugger. I get riled up when people, like you, need to insult others because the have different opions. I'm not one of them, but there are a lot of guys on this board that are very good fisherman, who catch cows and release them . I respect them more than those that kill for glory. And thats the point, its not for food, its for glory. I have no problem with commercial guys, they're making $. Its a job. People eat bass and they supply it.
I'll share one last thing, take it for what you will - many guys know I've went on and on about my Dad. Its 5yrs now that he is gone, he is one of the best fisherman I've ever know- never caught a striper from a boat, never went to Block, Cutty, never wore a wetsuit. He fished So County RI and Stratford/Bridgeport Ct. Mostly eels onley He has a bunch of 40s and 50s, alone, no buddies, no fishing clubs, just him. When he was in bed dying of cancer at 65, he said Jim, "I caught a lot of fish, a lot of big fish. I wish I never killed those 50s, what a waste" 100% true story. Everytime we looked at pics, my Mom would say, your dad always regretted keeping those fish. So to each his own, I've got something I need to carry on and someones legacy I need to preserve. Someday all that will matter is that you caught them.

numbskull 07-08-2010 08:49 AM

I figured you'd go ballistic and so I tried to make it clear the guy deserves what he catches and that specialized large bait fishing for large fish is a skill just like other skills in fishing.

If you don't feel luck is involved as well, then we disagree.

CowHunter 07-08-2010 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY (Post 778950)
Its funny you have to insult people to try and make a point. I've barely posted on catch and release and am far from a hardcore tree hugger. I get riled up when people, like you, need to insult others because the have different opions. I'm not one of them, but there are a lot of guys on this board that are very good fisherman, who catch cows and release them . I respect them more than those that kill for glory. And thats the point, its not for food, its for glory. I have no problem with commercial guys, they're making $. Its a job. People eat bass and they supply it.
I'll share one last thing, take it for what you will - many guys know I've went on and on about my Dad. Its 5yrs now that he is gone, he is one of the best fisherman I've ever know- never caught a striper from a boat, never went to Block, Cutty, never wore a wetsuit. He fished So County RI and Stratford/Bridgeport Ct. Mostly eels onley He has a bunch of 40s and 50s, alone, no buddies, no fishing clubs, just him. When he was in bed dying of cancer at 65, he said Jim, "I caught a lot of fish, a lot of big fish. I wish I never killed those 50s, what a waste" 100% true story. Everytime we looked at pics, my Mom would say, your dad always regretted keeping those fish. So to each his own, I've got something I need to carry on and someones legacy I need to preserve. Someday all that will matter is that you caught them.

Understandable, thats good for him, but he still killed em and just because he regrets it doesnt mean others should not kill a trophy.... Question? How long did it take for smart remarks and insults to be made at that guy for killing the fish???? Its the same people everytime...


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