The BeeReel crew is all set (we have 4) pending my son checking his class schedule.

I just called with Keepereaper and invited myself out on his boat. So as of right now we are in as well.:fishin::buds:

nice ho job! looks like a big pack of boats, should be fun

I'm getting my boat ready for this trip , it will b first trip for me this year
Hopefully all goes well and we can make the trip
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I want in! not sure my trailer will be fixed in time :-(

when does comm tog usually wrap up?

The USS Macojoe is in! I don't know much about Tog but would be a nice way to end the season!

Info from last year said the MA comm season closed Sept 30. Quota filled.

i look forward to taking all your guys money when i win the pool.:1poke: let the trash talking begin

I would gladly offer up my boat and time in exchange for a tog expert or two to tag along; haven't really invested any time in it but have enjoyed eating the few I've taken on plastic. I'm on a trailer, so am flexible and will be on vacation the week of the Columbus day holiday if the timing works. Wareham, Fairhaven or Westport all work for me as potential launch sites.

You are not allowed to bring your latest secret weapon to hookup the big'uns: mini-Niko, aka Dominic....:rotf2:
Or at least he wins the pool, not Dad.....

GS,

I think it would be a hoot if we all anchored within shouting distance on a reef in your neck of the woods. :fishin:If there was ever trash talking in fishing, this is the species!!! I have seen expert fishermen have a hell of a time while a novice in the other side of the boat is slaying them. It is always fun.


BTW I have seen the Viking Fleet from Montauk make the run down to BB to fish what they call the "Blackfish Mecca". That is a heck of a run for a tog if you ask me. You need to do this.

When it gets down to talking about exact spots we should use PM's or email.

email dist would be good for all boats going would be good

Mass. Division of Marine Fisheries: Commercial Fishing

Spike up in the number of fish being brought in.

I am still in!!

Will be interesting to see how many show up?? A few years ago we tried a few Cod trips and most bailed by the time we all went:soon:

it'll end up being 3 or 4 boats and a dozen guys. we'll have a good time

We should try the cod again.
If interest and guys want to do Stellwagen my boat will be in !

keep up us posted

I'm off next week, have we kicked around any dates? I'd love to get some tips for putting some black sea bass (before season end) or tog in the box. The tail end (until they extended it) of the black sea bass season really s**ked around my usual offshore humps around Gay Head. Don't know if the string of hurricanes kicked them off and out, curious are there seasonal migrations, I'm far from knowledgeable on black sea or togs?

For both, do they progressively go deeper/shallower as the seasons progresses? Does the structure change, is their a Black Sea or Tog fishing for dummies book? I found the artical interesting in the latest OTW, I've actually caught Tog on just 4" plasitic on 3/8oz jigs early season in shallow rocks, but its not a pattern I can rely on obviously. The thought of light spinning and jigging is attractive to me. I've also sat within spitting distance from a commercial bailing one tog after the other, looked like the only difference was the crushed mussels he was chumming with every 10 minutes or so.

Are there favorite hook-line-sinker combos for certain depths? Do you rig these in such a way, if you snag the sinker, that is all you loose? I love braid, is that in any way an advantage or detriment, I'd think it would help but two attempts at tog fishing tells me nothing yet.

Love to know what I should be looking for on chart of buzzards bay for spots, yes WITHOUT getting spots. I know what to look for when I'm hitting new striper water, not sure what the key is for these species, other then structure and wrecks and rocks.

Technique talk and identifying good starting spots would be helpful

as far as dates i think we're looking at the weekend of oct 23rd with a backup of the 30th. i've used aftificials on seabass w/ good luck but only used crabs on tog. as far as spots - just bust out a chart and start trying structure. big boulders, reefs, rockpiles, anything. some will hold fish and some suck. getting set up right at the spot is key, i can't tell you how many times i have to set the ancor 3 or 4 times till i'm right where i want. i've never chummed but if you get 3 guys fishing a spot it gets the scent out there. braid works fine just put a decent leader on, i use a 4-5' section of 30 or 50 mono. as far as catching them - you've got to develop the touch. skip the first few little taps of the baitstealers and wait for the bump. cross their eyes and get them out of the piece asap. i've got a busy week next week but i may be able to swing a day.

IMHO bob, boat fishing for fall tog is more productive fishing humps in open water with current. Unlike spring time when you'll find the concentration of them closer to shore on rock piles. Baits the same. Seabass I always done well with sea clams on two drop hooks close to the bottom, 4/0 is good. If your gonna jig tip them with squid...if you've had your fill with tog then you need to find shallower humps that hold seabass. When tog are there they are there. A few years ago in oct. I watched this guy put a hurting on them west 3/4 of the way down out where you go out he was from shore casting into proably 8-10' if that. So you know that's a long stretch with the same structure. Pick your days.

I'll be out there this weekend I can't wait, I'm do like grass needs dew.

YouTube - Blackfish (Tautog) Scuba Diving

This was recently sent to me by my bro. (around the 7-8 minute mark) confirms what niko said about having to move around a lot at times in order to get right over them. I've also found that in the right conditions letting out lots of anchor line can make the difference,, vertical means less tackle lose too.

I caught one once near outer brewster on a bucktail jig, was not expecting it at all.

Whomever can find the hermit crabs is a shoo-in to win.

I got a serious lesson today from an old timer.Not that bad,only about 20-1 ratio.OUCH!!!

Sad to say it, but I've never caught (or eaten) black bass or tautog... Probably wouldn't be able to make this get together, but would like to trade some vacuum packed cod for same of bb and/or tog....

well were getting a little closer. anybody need a ride or a crew? hopefully we'll get some decent weather. i'm gonna have a try at them next week

I went last week for a few hours...it was a slow pick, water temp was 66.7 deg...still a tad warm. Things have improved in the last week (water temp has dropped to 62.3 yesterday) but I hope to go again after the derby to check it out. I think everything is late this year.

Weather is everything, if it is blowing it can get snotty at the mouth of BB. I will still go but it is not as pleasant because you spend too much time holding on. Last year we had a few epic days...water temp mid 50's...balmy 70 deg afternoon, flat calm, and the big tog had the feed bags on and the comm season was closed...ie we were all alone! I live for these days!! IMO It is better to pick a good day then push a bad one.

I need a ride.

dan - i'll ask piscator if he's in and has room for you tonight. and you're doing all the cutting ninja

I am still in!! A nicer day is fine by me as my boat rides like a tank when its lumpy out! Right niko :smash::smash:

Sounds good to me. Let me know if you're doing any midweek stuff I feel a sick day coming on.

I went out with my son monday morning. Tog and seabass where non stop action we got off the water at 1:30ish. Biggest was just shy of 8# and I'm sure there's bigger ones. Friggen shop gave us chitty crabs(wicked small) and cut in half we went through them all useing one hook each.... and a bag of seaclams that the tog wouldn't touch only the seabass. I didn't make it out to the middle of the bay where I would have liked too but the tog fishing is very good.

Tee, if I let you take me out...do you promise not to cut me in half and use me for bait?....Rumor has it that tog don't like bloocrabs, ...it gives them blooba... :blush:..nevermind....:fishin:

Looks like it's gonna be blowing pretty good. What time would this thing kick off...and where? Or does everyone have radios?

I find using a lesser strength line in attaching the sinker to the dropper-loop leader can sometimes save your fish as well as save some line on the spool. If I'm using 50# braid as my main line, and 50# as my dropper loop leader, I'll use 25# to tie my sinkers. I pre-tie them, doesn't really take long (2-3" tops). This way if your sinker hangs up and your ON, ...God-willing, the sinker line snaps first and you salvage the fish. If your hung up with no fish on, hopefully you can snap the sinker line saving your leader and running line. Lotta guys do it different ways. I'm sure the comm guys have their own little :devil2: secrets too.

Should be fun time.

...as a reminder, Bluecrabs are not good tog bait.

LOL, OMG...them are double D's LOL. as long as theres a north wind we're good. Make sure you go Bob. My brother is takin his boat out there too,,,the pot's growing

If I can go I want to anchor right next to Goose...this is his backyard!

When are you guys doing this ?

I need a ride if anyone still needs a crew.

I think?