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Clogston29 09-16-2010 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by numbskull (Post 794991)
I let them go so I can feel morally superior and compensate for being short (and ugly).

its also alot easier to lie about how big they were if you let them go.

i pretty much fall in line with what backbeach and redlite posted.

if you really want to do what is best for the bass, just stay home. your essentially making their lives miserable for your own enjoyment every time you catch one.

JohnR 09-16-2010 07:37 AM

The short version is every legal group really should be taking less fish and every illegal group should be paraded before a judge.

Let a seasons' best go last night. It hasn't been an earth shattering season (but it has been fun).

Numby, not everyone can be hung like Bullwinkle, some people need to give Rocky a run for the money too.

Ed B 09-16-2010 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake (Post 795004)
I keep as many as will feed Jenn and myself through the Winter, maybe one meal a week through the Winter. If I caught a 40 it would probably be the only fish kept that Season. Maybe the last time that I went surfcasting that Season as well. I don't like catching and releasing, it's too much like playing with the fish, putting them at risk needlessly. They aren't toys. I release shorts , but in the persuit of keepers. Just me, I guess.

I agree with you Jake, it's not just you. Fish are not toys and that's something to think about.

Getting out in the surf, catching a few fish and taking one home to eat is OK in my book. Trying to catch dozens and dozens knowing that there is always some C&R mortality leaves me scratching my head.

Ed

Vogt 09-16-2010 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Clogston29 (Post 795082)
your essentially making their lives miserable for your own enjoyment every time you catch one.

Good thing they dont have emotions...:uhuh:

fishpoopoo 09-16-2010 11:09 AM

ah, for me, stripers taste like muddy cardboard.

i haven't kept one in a while.

MarkB 09-16-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 794822)


Still don't get why a big fish is such a more significant breeder than a mid 30 inch fish that has its longer life ahead of it to breed.... Human females produce a finite number of eggs in their lifecycle, and then no more. (learned this from ten years of infertility when I was married)Why would this not be true with fish?


Someone answered already, but I'll elaborate. First, fish - and many other animals - are not like humans. They go on reproducing until they die. Fish just drop eggs in the water, so there's no need to spend years raising young. Just as importantly, the fish that reach the biggest size are 1. female, and 2. the oldest. Taking number one first, in population biology its females that are important.

When biologists to the math of reproduction, they literally don't count males. One male can fertilize multiple female's eggs, but each egg is needed to produce a new fish, so females are the important ones in reproduction. When you want to cull a population, like deer, you should really be shooting only does, not bucks.

The second issue is also really important in its own way. The biggest/oldest fish are the ones who have survived all of life's challenges. They are the most resistant to disease and infection, they survived their juvenile years of predation by larger fish, they've proved they can migrate up and down the coast, they can succeed getting food, etc. All of this proves that they have good genes. It's those genes you want in the next generations.

Think of it this way - if you owned an NFL team, would you want to stock your team with players from the college draft, or pick them from Pop Warner teams and wait for them? Some of the best Pop Warner players might become great pros, but most will never even play college ball. But players who have lasted the longest in organized ball and proved themselves in all levels of competition are the best bet. It's like that in life generally. And that's why I'm in favor of taking an occasional mid-sized keeper and leaving the big cows in the water.


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