Drive out to Saquish and see what the residents do to the fencing the bird freaks put up. Kindling wood is one their favorites uses.

They are the same type of people that belong to Stripers for Ever. They want everthing for them selves. :)

I am not saying preserving access is not the most important issue shore fishermen face. I hate how hard it is to access many areas. I just find it ironic that the organization is called Plymouth beach for all when it is resident-only for orv permits. We all know that without vehicle access, in particular parking, the beach can be called "public" but that's really pretty disingenuous is only residents are allowed. Just a gripe I have with MA beaches in general. It's only a step away from what these whack jobs want to do, if you think about it. It's all about limiting access.
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In this case the "FOR ALL" means Shorebirds, Wildlife, Reasearch Workers, Dogs and humans living (or playing) in coexistance. Plymouth beach could not handle the influx of vehicles should it be open to the public. Letting residents only drive the beach is no different than letting "fishermen only" drive the beach and that is what many of them are, especially at night.

The decision came down in favor of Plymouth Beach. PLYMOUTH WON AGAIN. It is not over but this is good news. I will post more when I see something in writing.

:buds:

I've been waiting to hear, rumor mill was something might break by end of last week. Thanks for the update - keep it coming.

yup ..


PLYMOUTH — A long-awaited ruling by an administrative judge has upheld the management plan that allows off-road vehicles on Plymouth Long Beach.

Magistrate David Hoover’s recommended decision, released Tuesday, finds no merit in Goldenrod Foundation’s claims that the use of off-road vehicles on the beach constitutes a “take” of endangered species.

The ruling would maintain the town’s policy of allowing off-road vehicles onto the outer portion of the three-mile beach after protected piping plovers have fledged in early summer.

Goldenrod Foundation challenged the plan, claiming it did not adequately protect the plovers or roseate terns, another protected species.

Hoover heard testimony on Goldenrod’s challenge to the beach management plan last summer. His ruling found the challenge unsupported by meaningful or competent evidence.

The ruling also questions the motives of Goldenrod founder Kate Muther, who owns a private home on the beach and spends part of her summers there.

See the Midweek edition of the Old Colony Memorial for the complete story

Thanks Tagger!
Kudos to the Town of Plymouth and the people of Plymouth Beach for All Coalition for sticking to their guns and getting the true facts out in the open. Enjoy your beach!

Now I want to know what will become of this-"The ruling also questions the motives of Goldenrod founder Kate Muther, who owns a private home on the beach and spends part of her summers there."
Is she going to be allowed to continue this foolish witch hunt she is on?
All of this is a waste of time and money.

Trouble in Paradise?
 

From Wicked Local 3 Hours ago. Looks like a small problem at Goldenrod


The whole thing was a scam' Hecker said as he left the Goldenrod Cottage for the last time. 'We all knew there was no meaningful evidence.'

'Ya, but we expected a little bit of COMPETENT evidence!! That's why we fired your A$$!' Muther could be heard yelling from the window.

'I did all I could for those mean, ignorant, selfish snakes.' Hecker mumbled under his breath.

'I can hear you. And I must say, I agree with everything except where you said you did all you could. Now leave! Go do nothing for somebody else!'

And that's how it ended.

Link PLEEEEZE ;)

OK - found the link: Judge upholds Plymouth Beach Management Plan - Plymouth, MA - Wicked Local Plymouth

Will wait to find out if this is legit :buds:

That is a quote in the comments section. WOW!!!! Oh man I gotta know if this is true!:buds:

This is great news, now the town of Plymouth should sue them to get all there wasted money back

This is a concern for me. (My emphasis added)
I hope they don't use the Plymouth plan as a template in other areas.

I'm not sure how strict Plymouth beach is but I drive Plum Island every fall and have heard that all the other beaches watch what gets done there (Plum Island) then set there rules accordingly.

As much as I love Plum Island after last fall I may never go back

Most beach plans are like Plymouth's already with the exception of a total dog ban. (and they are working on changing that now)

All is silent on the Golden Fraud FB page. Most of us have been banned from posting there. I would love to see the link put up there for that article. Their "FANS" need to know the truth about them.

Goldenfraud filed another appeal.
Goldenrod filed an appeal of the Final Decision in Suffolk Superior Court on February 17, 2011.

My post on their FB page lasted all of 4 minutes before they deleted it! Frauds.

Andy Stevenson
More Plymouth sightings just in time for your appeal to the courts to ban beach access for your elitiest crowd I see. What a bunch of uptight,pretentios people you all are. Trying to ban access so people dont disrupt your vacation home on Long Beach.

Maybe a visit from the "Yak Rats" could be in order?
Have a beach meeting, and claim that the Yak Rats are a non-profit organization, then they can file a complaint against Goldenfraud if they so much as fart in the yakkers direction.
Turn their idiocy against them and see how they like being on the receiving end of the stick.

If worse ever came to worse, maybe they could surround their luxury home.....I mean "research facility" with a fence preventing them for accessing it for as long as WE want, and claim its "for the birds" (literally)!!!

Hey ya know I am a birdwatcher too. I watch for birds dive bombing bait all the time. I even have some cool binoculars. If I bring a clipboard will they allow me to bask in the sun all day in the name of research?

Now ORV's are responsible for global warming and beach erosion.
The crap that comes out of this guys mouth is unbelievable. Someone needs to start a GOLDENFRAUD FB page so we can refute this guys venomous attacks on us.
The Goldenrod Foundation | Facebook

The Goldenrod Foundation
‎2 good articles in Apr 3 Sunday Boston Globe on Sea Level Rise, with prediction that effect could be greatest in the Northeast. 2nd article about South Shore, "Perilous wave of the future". Another reason we need to focus on the reducing the erosion and destruction caused by beach-driving SUVs and why we should support increased protections for rare and endangered species of birds that nest on barrier beaches.

What the article makes me think is Geez maybe we better put these birds in zoo if we want to keep them. It in no way tells me that we need to keep trucks off the beach. It aggrevates me to no end that we cannot respond to this BS

Yeah, isn't it amazing that dissenting comments are deleted or blocked from their website, and then they cliam that they have had nothing but positive feedback from the public?
The "foundation" (i.e. eco-scam) is a joke, and the only thing worse than these walking, talking, reproducing piles of feces is any liberal judge that believes any of the crap they throw out as "alleged" true!

If they were to ever succeed, it would be a sad day for logical, free-thinking, intelligent anglers everywhere!

Ya know if I thought for one second that ORV's damaged the beach I would be against them. By following the rules and keeping away from the dunes we are doing no damage at all to the beach. The tide comes in and makes all my tracks go away. 6 hours later nobody would ever know I was there. That is the type of thing I would like to say to those Goldenfraud people and all those who believe them.

The Renewable energy earth loving crowd is farce for the most part. people want to be associated with it because it is trending up.

Next time you see a prius or a volt driving down the road ask yourself where the energy came from to charge the batteries to fuel that vehicle? More than likely from an electrical outlet in a home connected to the grid fed by coal driven turbines or nuclear rarely solar never wind.

The other thing to consider is what do we do with all the batteries when they have outlived there usefulness? Where do they go and how are they recycled. If you want to drive a hybrid or electric do it to save on energy costs not to save the planet your logic is flawed.

Those curly lightbulbs that you put in your home and they save you money. Loaded with Mercury. Not really a green alternative unless recycled properly.

Sorry, not true. Everything you talked about in your post is far better than the alternative. Leads to more striped bass in the end. The majority of people I know are renewable energy and earth loving crowd because it makes sense. They also like to drive on beaches to fish so I am not buying into your divisive crap that we are better off with current energy use. :) :yak5:
http://www.electroauto.com/info/pollmyth.shtml

The info below considers pollution from charging an ev vs pollution from int. comb. engines.
"Because California has a mix of cleaner fuels and renewable sources, several studies have concluded that improvements in air quality can be achieved easily by plugging in to EVs.

The California Air Resources Board (CARB) estimates that EVs operating in the Los Angeles Basin would produce 98 percent fewer hydrocarbons, 89 percent fewer oxides of nitrogen, and 99 percent less carbon monoxide than ICE vehicles.

In a study conducted by the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, EVs were significantly cleaner over the course of 100,000 miles than ICE cars. The electricity generation process produces less than 100 pounds of pollutants for EVs compared to 3000 pounds for ICE vehicles. "