Then why not lobby to roll back to CFC's? They're a lot easier to make.

-spence

Yup, since day one it has beeen in flux, ice age etc.

It's great if you love weather.

I don't really care either way. I'm more concerned about my water bottles. :biglaugh:

Who in here was it that said the there are many scientists that don't believe climate change is man-made?

Report: 97 percent of scientists say man-made climate change is real - Science Fair: Science and Space News - USATODAY.com

Well, I guess 41 out of 1,372 could be considered "many".

So now you believe in polls???

They're all in the scam to ruin the American dream.
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Coldest Jan. in 20 years predicted. Just sayin.

Sounds like the climate is changing. Thanks for validating this important issue.
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Records change...the climate changes... wow...a revalation!

friggan ice core samples show that....

"global climate disruption" ...scary stuff :rotf2: Can we get a percentage of these "scientist" to at least agree on a name for this apocalyptic occurence

There's a difference between predicted or measured.

You seem to still be stuck thinking climate change means global warming. :rotf2:

Show what? That we've had interglacial and glacial cycles for the last 2.54 Million years (OK, not all of that is from Ice), and that the last nine have been ~100,000 years apart or so (The last 8 or so captured by ice cores)?

Yup.

Do they also show that the rate of warming in the last couple of centuries is higher than any in the ice cores? And that it has been correlated with a host of other proxies back 10's of thousands of years? Yup.

Read two-mile time machine (Alley) Raven and the Longest Thaw (Archer), I think you'd enjoy it (sincere response, can be tough to convey I'm not being a wiseass). or anyone else for that matter. Also check out the skeptical environmentalist for a view of the other side.....

RRH, as I've posted before being a 747 taking off gives off the same pollution
as 10,000 cars starting their engines. That's a lot of pollution in itself.
Then with the sun certainly feeling hotter on the skin, common sense tells me something is happening, and maybe man may have something to do with it.

But what % of the change do the scientists think should be attributed to man vs natural changes?

Interesting read. I just put the first paragraph, rest is at the link below.

FWIW, it's about to snow. uh-oh, no more global warming.

Cold winter in a world of warming?

From: RealClimate: Cold winter in a world of warming?

Last June, during the International Polar Year conference, James Overland suggested that there are more cold and snowy winters to come. He argued that the exceptionally cold snowy 2009-2010 winter in Europe had a connection with the loss of sea-ice in the Arctic. The cold winters were associated with a persistent ‘blocking event’, bringing in cold air over Europe from the north and the east.

We all see how accurate scientist predictions are JD.:rotf2:

too bleepin' funny, nothing goes well for the climate scammers does it? why didn't I think of capturing the excess Global Warming CO2 and pumping it underground????

The Canadian Press – ONLINE EDITION
Carbon injected underground now leaking, Saskatchewan farmer’s study says

By: Bob Weber, The Canadian Press

A Saskatchewan farm couple whose land lies over the world’s largest carbon capture and storage project says greenhouse gases that were supposed to have been injected permanently underground are leaking out, killing animals and sending groundwater foaming to the surface like shaken-up soda pop.

Cameron and Jane Kerr, who own nine quarter-sections of land above the Weyburn oilfield in eastern Saskatchewan, released a consultant’s report Tuesday that claims to link high concentrations of carbon dioxide in their soil to the 8,000 tonnes of the gas injected underground every day by energy giant Cenovus in its attempt to enhance oil recovery and fight climate change.

“We knew, obviously, there was something wrong,” said Jane Kerr.
Cameron Kerr, 64, said he has farmed in the area all his life and never had any problems until 2003, when he agreed to dig a gravel quarry.

That gravel was for a road to a plant owned by EnCana — now Cenovus — which had begun three years earlier to inject massive amounts of carbon dioxide underground to force more oil out of the aging field.

Cenovus has injected more than 13 million tonnes of the gas underground. The project has become a global hotspot for research into carbon capture and storage, a technology that many consider one of the best hopes for keeping greenhouse gases out of the atmosphere.

By 2005, Cameron Kerr had begun noticing problems in a pair of ponds which had formed at the bottom of the quarry. They developed algae blooms, clots of foam and several colours of scum — red, yellow and silver-blue. Sometimes, the ponds bubbled. Small animals — cats, rabbits, goats — were regularly found dead a few metres away.

Then there were the explosions.

“At night we could hear this sort of bang like a cannon going off,” said Jane Kerr, 58. “We’d go out and check the gravel pit and, in the walls, it (had) blown a hole in the side and there would be all this foaming coming out of this hole.”

:rotf2::rotf2:GOOD GRIEF!!!:rotf2::rotf2:

From the Australian:

THE term “climate change” could be replaced by “climate challenges” if a federal commissioned marketing study is taken onboard.

they can settle the science but they can't settle on a name :rotf2::rotf2:



OOPS...

January 11, 2011

The BBC serves Freedom of Information request (FOIA) on UK Government over weather forecast failures secrecy in worst winter for 100 years.

In an almighty battle to salvage credibility three British government institutions are embroiled in a new global warming scandal with the BBC mounting a legal challenge to force ministers to admit the truth. Sceptics ask: Is the UK government’s climate propaganda machine finally falling apart?

Last week the weather service caused a sensation by making the startling claim that it was gagged by government ministers from issuing a cold winter forecast. Instead, a milder than average prediction was made that has been resoundingly ridiculed in one of the worst winters in a century.

With the BBC appearing to take the side of the Met Office by seeking to force the government to give honest answers, untold harm will likely befall Prime Minister Cameron’s global warming policies on energy, taxation and the environment.

HERE'S YOUR FRIGGIN GLOBAL WARMING

-4 in Uxbridge this morning.

My diesel made noises I never hear in the morning.

global waRMING :smash:

muther#^&#^&#^&#^&ing invented hocus #^&#^&#^&#^&in pocus mamby pamby bull#^&#^&#^&#^&.

Your bull#^&#^&#^&#^& theories don't fill my propane tanks or oil tank. They need to change the stupid laws about not being able to run a pellet stove in a commercial building.

Yup.
Never been cold in Uxbridge in January before. :smash:

Scott.
Keep it up and it will be Plastic Lures only for me from know on :love::love:

plastic


:yak5:

What's next you going to tell me your a closet bluefish lover too?

:hee:

Only in the smoker or hanging off a 12/0 for shark bait.

What a coincidence Paraco just dropped 157.2 gallons of global warming

That's enough for 2 more weeks. ugh.

Send pics lol

Scott, it's going to be colder next weekend.

ok I can bug Bryan more then :hee:

Superstrike rules :smash:

GO CHINESE
:yawn:

NWS - Uxbridge MA

Friday Night: Mostly cloudy, with a low around 2.

Saturday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 19.

ya gotta stop cuttin n pastin off the ch5 website :rotf2:

I don't do that media weather thing. thats the National Weather Service, BOX office in Taunton

yea I forgot you read the bifurcated trajectories of Jupiter over uranus and it's affects on clouds in the jetstream

yeah everythings changed now that we found out the earth wobbles

-9 this morning in the truck at 4:15


Global Warming :rotf2:

it grows colder BEFORE
 

GLOBAL WARMING....

then slowly winter disappears...

AGREED Nebe , i once saw a weather report
for Montana, i believe it was....

-20 degrees in the morning
and by late afternoon it was 80 degrees

so thats a 100 degree change in a single day.

consider yourself lucky..............

RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DULUTH MN
518 PM CST FRI JAN 21 2011

...RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE SET AT INTERNATIONAL FALLS MN...

A RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE OF -46 DEGREES WAS SET AT INTERNATIONAL
FALLS MN TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF -41 SET IN 1954.

i read once......
that even rubber tires fracture at very low temperatures

- 68 with a wind chill....sumthin like that

these must be the "shovel ready" jobs that Obama promised...why isn't he out taking credit for the snow??:rotf2:

he's too busy doing a SNOW JOB