How about an ultimate terminal tackle/knots and leader thread?

slipknot...my buddy left me a voicemail yesterday...said he stopped down to the run and there wer at least 20 cars parked at wareham street for "opening day"...is it may yet:confused: :confused:

JJ, alot of folks freeve them for bait later or chum:p
Also believe it or not some people eat them:smash: :smash:

March 27th is the last Wednesday of the month and usually the first day they allow taking herring. You won't see any live wells anytime soon. But I know bassmaster wants to do some kind of mad trip to Montauk and bring along a gazillion live herring, since I have 2- 55 gal. live wells and he has 2 also.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I was there today testing pikes and tuning them. Lots of herring coming up the shoot.

...Whats your take on this???...
 

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS ???


....I was reading the "Regulations" on the taking of Herring/Alewives....it states when you take any Herring from fresh water, you have a bag limit, restricted days, restricted ways of catching the Herring and restricted times....but if you catch them in Saltwater, how do these regulations apply???.....

....This is quoted right out of the booklet published by the DEM...

"No person shall take more than twenty-four (24) alewive (Alosa pseudoharengus) or blueback herring (Alosa aestivalis) either singularly or in the aggregate from the fresh waters of the state in any 24-hour period. No person shall take any alewives or blueback herring from the freshwaters of the state without a valid freshwater fishing license. No person shall take any alewives or blueback herring from the freshwaters of the state on any Sunday, Monday, or Tuesday of any week.... The areas below each fish ladder where fishing will be permitted shall be designated with an official boundary marker or informational sign."

...Now looking at my diagram, how can they enforce these laws...if for one, your not fishing in "fresh" water, and your past their boundary marker???....

.....I proposed this question to a DEM officer today and he didn't have an answer for me....he said, "I don't make the rules, I just enforce them..."

...maybe one of you can shed some light on this for me....and make it understandable...:confused: :confused:

Whats the time frame for spawning and return to the ocean. How long will the adult herring hang around the rivers and where do they go post spawn. Can we get live herring in June, July, Aug.?

I get my Herring from around docks and from open water.
I don't get any herring from the runs or close to freshwater.

SB If you look for them you can get them all summer long around here anyway.

This text file has some good info on river Herring and spawning.

I hope this works :smash:

Bloo I would also like to know the regs. for taken Herring in "open water"

Here's a look at a herring run a few of the boys have been trying to keep open.

No doubt some stripers are smelling that sweet water and are hanging around the beach.

http://fisheye.striped-bass.com/imag...noffbeach6.jpg

http://fisheye.striped-bass.com/imag...runonbeach.jpg

Mike

Back from the archives
 

I thought this wouyld be a good time to breath some life back into this thread. John R could not get the pics to come in, If they have been removed can you repost them?:)

when I get and use live Herring
 

when I get and use live Herring,
I hook them up over the backbone (dont hit that) just forword of the center of the
Dorsal fin..Line siders love cripled bait fish, and nothing looks quite like cripled
bait, like bait with a hook in its back..

just the way I do it...

regards/ al

Me like herring a la Buddy Vanderhoop.

Fish heads, yum! :laughs:

Herring Pen
 

I was hoping someone could supply plans for a good in-water do it yourself bait well. I want to make something using soft mesh and some kind of plastic (CPVC, PVC, maybe even a hula-hoop :laughs: )

If some of you guys could describe the pens you have, that would be great.

No Pics
 

Nothing but red X's coming from those Fish Eye herring pics----but the scenic ones come fine??????:confused: :confused: :confused:

most are back now - I have to finnish restoring some older parts of the site...

Your wrecking Me:smash:
U make me mental with those things
Ya killin Me:wall: :wall: :wall:

I like to smell them:smash:

Why is the preference of getting them before they spawn, rather then after ?

Horny herring have a little more fight in 'em? :laughs:

i cant take it no more:wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:

seems like a lot of work, catching and then keeping them alive. Is it worth the effort? You guys and gals who fish both live and plugs what is the difference in catch percentage? Surf casters is it a pain to drag them along, or is this a boat thing? Bigger fish with live bait?

lennyr its kind of a must do thing for me I always loved live bait fishing back in the 70s and now its kind of a tradition. That and you get some kick a-- fish on live bait:eek: The site of a 20-40# fish swirling after your bait is hard to beat. Mike said the herring are running in Warehame must be to hard to swim in the cold water so they are running over the ice:laughs:

...lenny, fishing live bait is like opening a bag of "Ruffles"....:D.....you never want it to end!!!!!!

...there are almost NO guarantees in life...but this is one of them!!!

I guarantee you'll LOVE LIVE BAIT FISHING!!!

...is walking a mile to your favorite sand-bar worth it??... Is it still worth it if you didn't catch anything?

...is walking on bowling-ball sized rocks which are constantly moving under your feet in wet waders after casting for 5 hours ..worth it??

...is trespassing thru someone's property, running from barking dogs...hopping fences....just to wet a line....worth it??

...If you answered NO, to ANY of these questions.......don't bother lugging a herring tank/basket/net around, it just won't be worth it.. ;)

Bloocrab your right. I do alot of stuff now thats a pain for little or no payoff. If I caught a #40 or close using live bait it would change the way I think about it. That being said, a pole a couple plugs, 10 minite walk and I 'm fishing.

Oh boy... here come the delirium tremors again :err:.... withdrawal is much harder when the object of your desire is being dangled in front of your face.

I have a live well I made out of a cut down 55 gal barrale. I have a pump in the barrale to cirulate the water while travle. Then with a turn of a vaule I have freash water pump in and old water pump out while in the boat.
I like to get my Herrin and put wire ties thur the nose and also thur thr back in front of the dorsal fin. They will live just fine in the tank pre riged this way. When ready for the fish just put the hook into the loop and pull. Cut off the tag end and you are ready to go.
Dead herrin get put into the deep frezze. Then when using frozen herrin i like to cut them from the middle of the gill to the vent hole. This gives great action to them and they work great.
I like to also grind them up in to chum. I grind them up and pour into a platic 1/2 gal milk jug. Then freez them when I go fishing I have a 16oz weight tied to a rope. I attach the jug buy the handle and punch it full of holes. Drop over board and it will defrost slowly releasing the goodies for the fish.

LIVEWELLS AND TRANSPORTATION
 

I net most of my herring at Gilbert Stuart in North Kingstown RI. But I have a 20 min car ride back to my overnight tank. heres what i do.

With a 150 gallon tank in the back of my truck and a pump, just a regular bilge pump that i run of my car ciggarett lighter. I keep about 50 gallons of water in the tank and when i get to the river, i fill it with a fresh 50 and start the pump. Catch my herring load and go.

At home, i keep about a 300 hundred gallon tank, maybe more, that my son picked up from work somewhere. I keep it full to the top with some well water and I fill it with the water i take from the tank in the truck. I run an old POOL FILTRATION and pump without the filter. With fresh water and fresh air i've kept my herring alive for over a week.

You need to go get about 2 dozen seaworms and glob them on to a 6/0 gammi octpus hook and the jig like hell!!
Good luck!! :laughs:

herring are my life in what i use hense my name, i think they give you the best chance to catch a fish.

I have this spot where all i do is catch herring off of these docks,hook one up, throw it on a hook and in the river, catch more herring, and wait for the drag to go crazy. I have had very few times where i have not had at least a bite with herring.