While i dont agree with the 2 @ 28, it is the law and im not going to say anything to people that take their 2 fish. 3 fish, then we have a talk, but 2 is the rule.

I have to believe that a lot of those people who are 100% C&R or 99.999 whateva, don't love to eat fish or associate with people who love to eat fish...as much as those of us who feel this way, it doesn't mean that we're not concerned or anti-conservative,...to make a "blanket" statement like,......:confused: ...Seriously???

Some people would rather buy their nice and clean fish fillets at the market on the day that they plan on eating it, I don't mind getting my hands dirty, I enjoyed the last bag of striper fillets that I thawed out last month, where's the gluttony in that??...and it's a nice feeling knowing that YOU put food on the table, for yourself and others...literally. I don't know...this is a point-less debate for me. For the most part, on days that I catch my limit and plan on keeping it,,,I catch MUCH more than 2 legal fish...again, not chest pounding, but anyone that can consistently catch fish, knows that on days that you catch...you CATCH..(if that makes any sense)

..not making any personal attacks, sorry if it reads that way...like I said, "to each his own".

I don't understand what the freezer has to do with anything. I have a foodsaver vacuum sealer. I made a striper casserole last week and when I opened that bag it was just like I put it in there. It was awesome and it brought me back. Nothing like it during the winter months.

Look back to when the Striper Cup was first announced and its rules. Read about the stink that we here and on other sites put up to let the organizers know they were being irresponsible with the way the tourney was to be run and the changes in the rules that resulted from the bad press generated primarily here on S-B.com and on SOL at that time.

Many people here have caught several thousand fish in their lives but probably have kept less than a hundred. I personally have seen more undersize fish taken by morons than I have kept in legal fish in my lifetime. C+R is often discussed here but its not something we try to ram down peoples throats. Just fish within the law and people here are OK with it. Now would many of us like to see the laws cahnged to reduce the legal take , of course.

Oh . and as far as FD writing about catch and release, all I can do is roll my eyes. :rollem:

Believe me If I ate fish I would be filling my freezer, no one in my house eats fish except my wife and she would rather have Blue fish so That's what I take home if she wants it, also when Me and my family is on Vacation on the cape Fish come home for at least one meal

Gut hooked or dying fish come home also, I believe people fishing with in the law are just fine, Places I fish I don't see anyone taking more then they are aloud

I only keep 1 -28" fish a year. the rest go back.

It's legal is not an excuse.. We all know that.. Seems there is this disconnect from right and legal.
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I still find it amazing how many of the old guard still lay blame on FD for writing about the cape but never say a disparaging word about Lyman and Woolner.

DZ

as far as fd- better late than never...

WOW!!.....so now I need an excuse to keep a fish?? :wall:


This "disconnect" you speak of is the difference between those of you who fish primarily for SPORT and those of us who fish BOTH for sport and personal CONSUMPTION, as I described in my earlier post).
MOST of you started fishing for Sport. As a child growing up, my father & family (immigrants) fished more for table-fare than for amusement, I guess that trait or gene still resides in this fish-eater..Striped-Bass is a strong 2nd to Tautog on my fish menu. Yes, preferred over Tuna, Salmon, etc/// I GUARANTEE that if those of you strongly advocating strictly or 99.9999% C&R enjoyed eating fish or had a similar type of background, you would feel differently. I also do not sell any of what I keep, unlike many others (but again, to each their own).

Seems some of you will never understand. I guess this <<smiley)) was made for those of us who use the "legality" excuse when keeping fish..:want:

I agree with the observation that striped bass stocks are declining (based on my data and other data). Hence, for this season, like the past three seasons, I am planning to harvest one fish for a family dinner and release the rest after taking a quick measurement and picture.

My $0.01. ;-).

Frand D. is the man. Some of you are just cranky, get over it.
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Releasing is good.

bloocrab if your father hit you to punish you as a child does that make it okay for you to do the same? Look I know the point you are trying to make. But it is you that is not looking at this from any other viewpoint than your own needs/wants. The fishery is more important than any individuals desires/needs/wants

If the stock were strong and vital....like before the moratorium years then that is a different story. But there is a serious issue with the stock declining....for many reasons. And so we all should do our part to conserve and preserve before it is all gone or we get a moratorium again

More than likely your father lived through the moratorium years and survived without taking any stripers during that time. Do we really need to repeat our past mistakes?

I've never met Frank, and personally, I have nothing against the guy.

But, I think there's more to why he's so disliked down-Cape beyond the fact that he wrote about it.

And on the subject at hand, I don't think that Frank has fished commercially since the bass came back, so he can preach C&R nowadays with credibility in my book. My fishing partner has probably sold more bass than Frank did in his life, and fished commercially long after Frank stopped, and while he isn't total C&R, he never keeps a bass over 32" for the table now.

his jab at the asmfc & seals was pretty humorous

I agree RB that was humorous.

I don't know Frank but I have no reason to think he can not change his beliefs unless some one I trust tells me otherwise. I hope he preaches C and R more often and in more publications.

While I won't challenge anyone for keeping their limit, especially as long as commercial fishing is allowed for stripers. What I got most from this thread is that we do need to reduce the limit on stripers because we will not self regulate. In reading Frank's article I also agree that as long as there is a price on stripers, illegal sales by both Recs and commercial will continue along with poor catch practices.

The same message is in an article in the May issue of On The Water. Again by a person who used to fish commercially for them. The understanding of what is happening is getting out and to me it doesn't matter who the messenger is as long as it gets out.

99.9% of the time, that my father hit me, I deserved it. Does the 0.1% justify that he never should have? I don't think so. I wasn't disciplined abusively, physically yes...but not abusively (there's a difference). In real-time, I think I'm an o.k. fella, some of the things learned by the belt weren't all that bad. Thick-headed people sometimes need pain in the deliverance of a message or lesson. In relation to your remarks, I guess you could say that the "pain" in my example would be another "moratorium", right?...I agree.:confused:

In saying that, I still think 1-2 fish per recreational fisherman is a fair number. (I am perfectly fine with 1fish@whateversize:uhuh: ) I never said that there wasn't a problem. Perhaps the thought of not being able to keep a striped-bass for the table bothers me, which is what I believe most C&R want. Therefore my thoughts on the matter remain the same....and yes, my father and I both lived through the moratorium years. I don't believe the problem is with the recreational side of this equation so why should I agree with accepting it's punishment? :fishin:

Would willing to release yours in order to make them realse thiers? (commercial fishermen)
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Cheek turning doesn't work in that industry... Shut it down for everyone, Mission accomplished. They will never regulate "them" enough to make "THE" difference needed,,, 2much$$$$ involved. Meanwhile, I too...will eat the fruit from the Garden of Eden, less the sin, in my eyes anways...:angel:

I have no problem catching them by accident while targeting bluefish (and releasing them) if it were ever to get shut down...:doh:

At least we would give one less person to point the finger at
The only way it would work is everyone has to let them go and that won't happen
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Yes.
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