Speaking of Mini mouse
maybe Michelle obama is secretly running this country :think:

The man needs to step upto the plate and become an inspiring
leader in order to unite the country, instead of being in constant
campaingn mode and playing the blame game.

He needs to be a man, admit the failures and do what he was elected to do,
lead.

Can you name a single candidate that has this in his message and not "OH ITS THEIR FAULT"?

shhhhhhhh!!!
 

You might wake the VP! :rotf2:

I only hope that the Dems don't ever get involved with the F&G and the fresh/salt water fisheries. With their current track record with "green" industry, they would effectively finance the extintion of the fishing industry all by themselves!

So far we have Deval Patrick's goose egg "Evergreen" and now Obama's love child "Solyndra". What else can they touch that will wither and die?

That's a different issue.

It's fine to argue due diligence wasn't done, but that's not necessarily why the company folded.

-spence

due dilligence not being done often results in things folding

it all relates to the same issue and in particular, this issue...."unproductive decisions and ones that ultimately put taxpayers’ dollars at risk" through foolish Government Subsidies that don't pan out because coincidentally, too many Chinese Government Subsidies and not enough European Government subsidies, bad business plan hastily funded thanks to campaign donation paybacks....sounds like a complete failure for Government Subsidies...who would have thunk it? the only entity that made out on this deal was the Obama Election Fund

You're making a lot of assumptions.

-spence

here's some more assumptions for ya....

Beyond the pressure the White House put on the Department of Energy and OMB to expedite the loan, it is coming to light that solar industry analysts were always skeptical of the company's business plan.

ABC News:

While Energy Department officials steadfastly vouched for Solyndra -- even after an earlier round of layoffs raised eyebrows -- other federal agencies and industry analysts for months questioned the viability of the company. Peter Lynch, a longtime solar industry analyst, told ABC News the company's fate should have been obvious from the start.

"Here's the bottom line," Lynch said. "It costs them $6 to make a unit. They're selling it for $3. In order to be competitive today, they have to sell it for between $1.5 and $2. That is not a viable business plan."

Other flags have been raised about how the Energy Department pushed the deal forward. The Center for Public Integrity's iWatch News and ABC disclosed that Energy Department officials announced the support for Solyndra even before final marketing and legal reviews were in. To government auditors, that move raised questions about just how fully the department vetted the deal -- and assessed its risk to taxpayers -- before signing off.

:uhuh:

Wait...Wait...Wait.

Jimmy Hoffa Jr. has it all figured out!The Teamsters are O'Bama's Army now.I actually heard Obama/Hoffa chants for 2012!

My god the truth has now come out.The current admin now has an "army". Unions are the single biggest reason why most American manufacturing jobs are now overseas and the unemployment rate is the highest its ever been!Pay a man $30/hr to do a $10hr job WTF to did you expect?

I ain't saying Sarah Palin or the Tea Party is the answer because they sure as hell aren't but you Obama(Union) ball-lickers make me sick and its you that are destroying America.

STOP WORSHIPPING OBAMA and use what few braincells you have left and make an informed decision this time around!

Norman for President 2012 :claps:

Ya, you can always believe what the union leaders say.

In 2000 they were telling the electrical union members that
if Bush got in they would loose $15 an hour. My son in law
a member of the union, and gulible at the time, voted for Gore because of it.

Well he worked everyday during the Bush Administration for the whole
8 years with all the overtime he wanted and made mucho $$.

Under Obama he has been laid off for over a year and a half now with the
exception of 6 weeks of work.

There are a lot of his union friends that will not be voting for
Obama.

We need to stop spending all this money we don't have. The bottom line is we need to cut spending and unfortunately, (and I really hate to say this) increase taxes in some form or another. Cutting spending will help reduce the deficit. If we only reduce the deficient, we then have a larger debt issue to deal with…….I can’t believe I’m saying this but due to the irresponsible spending of this administration, the only way to get out on this hole is cut spending and have some sort of tax increase (and not just on the “rich”) to get us back on track………….

Ya, hate to admit it but I have been thinking the same thing recently.
Cutting spending and raising taxes could bring both parties in Congress something
to bring them closer to action.

In a better economy it would be a no brainer, but in this economy
raising taxes is a two sided sword.

Iv'e got a feeling Obama will want to spend big now and raise taxes too.

my most anticipated Plan

is for him to retire.

There is a place for raising taxes but it is after cutting spending and growing jobs. The problem is that Guvmint only knows how to spend, they don't know how to save.

The argument that sometimes you need to borrow more money than you take in to spur growth and get through bad times is valid but there needs to be a time when you cut costs and pay off some of that largess. Our deficit is forecast to be double out GDP during our lifetime. During WWII it was not double GDP. The politicians spending and promises of the last 30 years has gotten us here.

Stop driving businesses out of the country. Make it worthwhile to operate here in the US.

Yup, the key word being AFTER.

WTH, Obama is afraid football will pre-empt his top secret
plan and now it will be given in increments?

400 Billion jobs Package....

where's he pullin that from.... HIS BUTT? :fury:

Nah, he'll just charge it on his Chinnese cedit card.

White House aide: Time for Congress to act on jobs - Yahoo! News

Roflmao

Amazing
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Very carefully calculated and timed
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"It's not a jobs plan....it's a re-election plan"

Best quote of the day.

McConnell: "This Isn't A Jobs Plan, It's A Re-Election Plan" | RealClearPolitics

First impression, great campaighn speech.
Emergency, Emergency.
"Pass this Bill Right Now". I counted it 8 times in the first 8 mins.
Very disapointing secret plan, no silver bullet as he lead us to believe.

Just like Obamacare and Stimulus get it passed before any body can read it

Same old same old.

The Admin for the past week and a half has been saying this speech wouldn't offer a silver bullet.

It was a decent speech and seemed to get a good amount of GOP applause.

The real measure of success here is if Obama can work with Republicans in Congress to actually get something passed. Considering many of the proposals he's trying to lead from the middle (again) which hasn't worked before as Boehner can't control his own house.

If *any* legislation is passed Obama will be able to call this a success. Republicans in the next election are going to start fearing an obstructionist label.

-spence

He's going to pay for this plan by wwwwwwhat?

And here I was thinking jobs and the economy were the measure of success. WTF was I thinking?

It's because you're obsessing about Obama...

If there's collaboration and a bill the market will respond favorably.

-spence

I "hope" your right. 35K schools are counting on it.

what other options do we have? Or federal elected representatives have taken off the table any other option.
Walking away from the Middle East?

spin spin spin

holy crap I'm gettin dizzy. :love:

disappointing? Why would you be disappointed? Did you expect something else out of Mr Useless?

There was never a plan. It's the SAME BULL#^&#^&#^&#^& people have been saying since he got in there.

And he wants to spend 400 billion more? :rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:

What a SCHLOCK :smash: (him not you Dave) :grins:

FACT CHECK: Obama's jobs plan paid for? Seems not - Yahoo! News

Everything will be paid for...... :rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:

YEA BY YOU AND ME FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES. :smash:

What a jackwad :spam:

why does anyone listen to this guy anymore?

if Obama walked through the door of your business or home with "A PLAN" to improve either or both...would you give him one penny??????

BOTH PARTIES, are to blame

the only thing republicans want is bozo out of office in 2012. and the dems are caving into them.

Take your pick - Bozo, Slick Mitt or the cowboy from TX. that's what we got coming

None of the above have a plan to get this country on track. Nor does anyone in power in DC for that matter.

we don't matter it's all about being the Prez in 2012

maybe the mistake is looking to DC for a plan to get the country on track...maybe the solution isn't a plan in the form of a spending bill from DC...particularly one that will cost hundreds of billions more

I'm too Kenysian not too. I ain't spending anything unless I feel my future, at least some of it, has security. Without consumer confidence and spending the economy of the country isn't running above a low idle.
So what entity should replace the lost dollars not circulating in the economy making the engine run close to full throttle?

I don't see it coming from anywhere, innovation isn't going to change this overnight, there is only one place, and now that place has taken it's money off the table.

What he should have done two and a half years ago, when he
had CONTROL of the House and Senate, was work on a real solution
to jobs and the economy rather then throw$$$ at his stimulus plan
with his "shovel ready" jobs. Lick and a promise.

However that wasn't his agenda, Obamacare was, which should of
been way down his list in importance. His legacy for healthcare was
more important then the economy. Now suddenly the economy
needs "pass the bill right now." Why now and not before? His main
objective now is to get re-elected in 14 months and needs to have
unemploment drop to 7%. All political BS.
I can't wait for his next episode on how we will pay for this.

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