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Saltheart 11-10-2011 06:16 PM

I don't think its "peachy swell" but I do think the bulk of the blame falls elsewhere and that Paterno should have been instructed to retire , not get the boot.

Now I admit I'm not aware of all the upstream stuff you mentioned before the shower incident was witnessed. Maybe there is a "bachground" or "coverup" that Paterno was a part of that I don't know the details of. If that can be proven then I would think he's in some way on the hotseat for criminal charges. That hasn't happened yet.

My first reaction was , as you mention, why didn't the witness stop what was happening immediately by dragging the kid away from Sandusky and then go directly to the police.

I used to travel through State College , PA on a regular basis. It is its own little world and yes Paterno is God there. I still think the Actual witness first , PSU Pres second and the Security Guy third are the ones who should have exposed Sandusky but as you say , maybe "god" didn't want that. ??

Backbeach Jake 11-10-2011 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 899387)
Piscator - you are right. Even if Paterno reported to his "bosses" as he was supposed to, if the PSU admin covered it up he probably should have gone to the state police / youth services. In the end, nothing here was acceptable.

As a father part of me wonders why Sandusky was not beaten up prior to being reported to authorities.

Sandusky's foundation target at risk kids, those with no fathers in their lives. He farmed his victims, the sick bastard, and he farmed them out as well. According to rumblings.
If evil had a face it's Sandusky.

Mike P 11-10-2011 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake (Post 899524)
Sandusky's foundation target at risk kids, those with no fathers in their lives. He farmed his victims, the sick bastard, and he farmed them out as well. According to rumblings.
If evil had a face it's Sandusky.

Yup, there are strong rumors, from sources out there, that the Second Mile foundation was actually pimping kids out to powerful people in the community, and around the state.

What has come out so far is just the tip of the iceberg.

stcroixman 11-10-2011 09:23 PM

Second Mile foundation will have their Not for profit status yanked by IRS after their inevitable investigation is done, another domino to fall.

I really thought the Board could have made a ballsy statement by saying PSU will finish its regular season schedule and decline a Big 10 Championship game and bowl invite.

They still cover that $5-10 million bowl game so they haven't shown true remorse IMO. This could still happen. It would be another big pill to swallow especially with the lawsuits they are facing

fishbones 11-10-2011 11:47 PM

This is getting interesting. Paterno supposedly now has retained a criminal defense attorney. He could be in trouble if he lied to the grand jury.
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Piscator 11-11-2011 10:17 AM

The Penn State Football program generates ~$70,000,000 in revenue each year for the school (yup, $70 Million every year). It was in everyones best interest (including Paterno) to cover this whole thing up and hope it went away.............

Raider Ronnie 11-11-2011 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Piscator (Post 899623)
The Penn State Football program generates ~$70,000,000 in revenue each year for the school (yup, $70 Million every year). It was in everyones best interest (including Paterno) to cover this whole thing up and hope it went away.............

They are going to need that 70 million now once the law suits start piling up !
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nightfighter 11-11-2011 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike P (Post 899531)
Yup, there are strong rumors, from sources out there, that the Second Mile foundation was actually pimping kids out to powerful people in the community, and around the state.

What has come out so far is just the tip of the iceberg.

That is the sickest part of what I am afraid we are going to see revealed.... Some big names on their different boards, some of whom were not aware they were even on the boards.

Statement from Lou Holtz - ESPN

striperman36 11-11-2011 11:42 AM

the DA that indicted Sandusky the first time also 'disappeared' mysteriously

It's going to be a total cluster when it all comes out. I willing to say that many people knew what was up and cast a blind eye in the name of Nittany Lion football.

I am disgusted by my alma mater.

Mike P 11-11-2011 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 899635)
That is the sickest part of what I am afraid we are going to see revealed.... Some big names on their different boards, some of whom were not aware they were even on the boards.

Statement from Lou Holtz - ESPN

All of these charitable foundations have big names on their "advisory" boards, and in almost every case, all they're doing is lending their names to the organizations. They rarely, if ever, take part in running things, or even do anything more than lend their names.

stcroixman 11-11-2011 10:12 PM

Yup, Like Mike P says - It looks really good for the Organization and the individual to be involved with each other.

Then it hits the fan, and you are automatically associated with it.

Lou Holtz wouldn't be associated with a coverup. I still can't believe Paterno was so stupid.

Joe Pa gave up his repuation for his best friend. Some would say Honorable - I say Stupid.

Sundowner 11-12-2011 04:12 PM

As the student body president said, the eyes of the world are on PSU. Therefor, I believe, and support, anyone that had knowledge of this will be prosecuted criminally and civilly. I said it here earlier and will say it again, Joe Pa is Penn St.(practically Pennsylvania), nothing happens w/ or w/o his say so. Bottom line is, there were many ppl that knew about it and there was not enough done about it. No excuses and no preferential treatment. Everyone must go down for this horrific act.

Mike P 11-12-2011 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundowner (Post 899902)
As the student body president said, the eyes of the world are on PSU. Therefor, I believe, and support, anyone that had knowledge of this will be prosecuted criminally and civilly. I said it here earlier and will say it again, Joe Pa is Penn St.(practically Pennsylvania), nothing happens w/ or w/o his say so. Bottom line is, there were many ppl that knew about it and there was not enough done about it. No excuses and no preferential treatment. Everyone must go down for this horrific act.

Having knowledge of a crime, and not reporting it, isn't a crime unless the person in question is a mandated reporter. It would be nice if everyone who looked the other way could go to prison, but the law doesn't allow for it. There would have to be evidence of a cover-up, or using influence to cause the case to be dropped. Obstruction of justice like activity. My guess is that they're investigating that possibility as we speak, and that's what Paterno has retained the services of a top criminal defense attorney.


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