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Cabela's Ultralight 2 Lug Wading Boots with stud pods are marked down from 69.99 to 49.99 SALE
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Seems that felt harbors invasive species' larva and spores
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Deputy Chief of RI F&W replied today that he has not yet heard back from the Freshwater Division yet because of the holiday break. He said that they (Freshwater Division) have no jurisdiction over marine waters which are under authority of the Marine Division with advice from the RI Marine Fisheries Council. He speculated that this laws "intent" may have been to cover waters "upstream" of the official fresh/salt water boundaries when high tides intrude. I'll post when I hear the official explanation so don't sell your felts yet.
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Anyone want to buy some felt soled boots? :devil2:
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More on felt sole ban in RI
A comment left to a posting on my blogsite:
"FYI, an executive member of RI Trout Unlimited Ch225, specifically requested the banning of felt bottom waders in RI fresh water at the last public RIDEM fishing regulations meeting held at the Warwick Police station at the end of this past summer. His request and comments should be in the public record." Well...a check of the DEM website does not show a public hearing agenda item concerning adoption of this regulation, nor any hearing in "late summer." There MAY have been a meeting, but no evidence exists of a properly noticed "hearing" as required by law. If anyone can find that notice or minutes thereof, post it up! Further, an "executive" of TU RI 225 speaks for whom?...The thousands of salwater anglers represented by RISAA and others that were completely unaware of this proposal? Was this issue brought forward as a result of a vote by TU members? Again a check of TU newsletters shows no agenda item concerning felt sole ban. Appears we have one "executive" TU member persuading RIDEM to adopt a regulation in the dark of night! Priceless! |
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Good news is there is a vehicle to get this rule changed: petition for change at this years public hearing for 2013 rules. Who knows how vigilant enforcement will be this season. I asked the division to post some clarification on their web page because there was all sorts of misinformation about this controversy. Our first step might be to ask RISAA to get the Marine Fisheries Council to bring up the topic and send a memorandum to the Freshwater Division recommending that marine waters be deleted. Letters to the DEM director would also be beneficial - she would be the only one who could possibly alter the regulation for the upcoming season. I believe she has that power. DZ |
The ban on felt soles is in the freshwater fishing regulations. Section 2.6 of these regualtions clearly defines the boundaries of freshwater and saltwater sections of the streams where these regulations apply. These regulated sections do include tidal and marine state waters, where felt soles would be prohibited.
I think it is clear that these reglations do NOT apply to any of the seaward portions of these rivers and streams from these boundaries, and could be legally argued to that point. |
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I totally agree with your reasoning but that is not the case from what I was told. Quote from F&W: "It (the regulation) was made inclusive of all waters for Enforcement purposes; so that anglers were not confused as to where the freshwater/saltwater boundaries were in estuarine areas." Basically what the above statement means is that instead of trying to figuere out where you can or cannot use them it would make it simpler to just include all waters including marine. I don't like it, don't feel it's necessary in the open surf, and will do my part to get it changed. I encourage all others to do the same. DZ |
That may be their intent, but the exact wording of 2.6 is: "Boundaries - The defined boundaries for the freshwater and saltwater sections of the sate's rivers and streams, with regard to the areas where Freshwater Regualtions apply, are as follows:"
I guess they may try and enforce it on the ocean front, but at least maybe anybody that is caught could argue that they are outside of the regulated area, and possibly get off and avoid a fine. I realize that the regulation regarding the felt soles says "any state waters", which is contradictory to the later definition of the boundaries. And if the boundaries are clearly defined in the regulations already, why do they think we would be confused on where the boundaries are (aside from someone not reading the regulation)? |
Team7x - PM on the way - thanks...
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From what I understand the Freshwater fisheries dept does not have the authority to impose any regulations in the marine district.
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I just ordered a new pair of boots from Cabelas. I'll just have to carry two pair. Felts for the canal and rubber soles for Rhody. The Felts were a wee too tight anyhoo.
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Our fishing club letter to Fish and Wildlife requesting "marine waters" be deleted from the new regulation is on its way. Looks like RISAA is also on board with support. Stay tuned.
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LOL Years ago they tried to ban 4x4 beach rigs from historic access due to the risk of possible oil leaks. Some smart A-- brought the sales figures for sun tan oil and other oils used by bathers to the meeting.Over 100,000 gals sold on the Cape alone.Puts a nice sheen on the water and helps kill most fish larve. the oil issue was dropped.You never hear them tell other rec users they have to stop using something or going somewhere due to the damage they may cause just hunters n fishermen.Wait till it still spreads due to birds ,animals,swimmers an such. They'll try to tell us we can't fish in the water due to our lines scraping the stuff off the bottom.No point in looking at the issue an dealing with it just target fisherman an such--MMMMMM Makes a body wonder who is pushing the issue.
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This just in!! The whole thing has proven too confusing for DEM to enforce, so a ban on fishing all together will take place during the entire 2012 season. :smash:
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