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MakoMike 03-09-2012 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 925937)
You're killing me here Mike. I feel like a broken record.
If he knew this was going on, do you think he should have called DEP himself and had them waiting at the dock?

I think that is the least they could have done. Otherwise, to me, it looks like they turned a blind eye and probably got a nice tip from those guys.

for what it's worth, running the tour boat, if 1 passenger got out of hand (i.e. #^&#^&#^&#^&faced drunk, or the time we had a kid rip bottles of booze right off the bar during a charter), I went back to the dock early. They had to explain firsthand to the other people (and in the kids case, his parents and coach) why the trip was over so suddenly at the captains discretion!
Bryan,
They were 60 miles offshore, and it was only a handful of the passengers keeping the fish. He would have had to refund all the other passengers their fare, what would you do if you were in that position? Take a couple of thousand dollar loss of keep fishing? How do we know that it wasn't him that tipped the DEP?

RIROCKHOUND 03-09-2012 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MakoMike (Post 926090)
How do we know that it wasn't him that tipped the DEP?
We don't. And I hope he did, but my gut says this was not the case....

MakoMike 03-09-2012 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by t.orlando (Post 925946)
If over 2/3rds the catch is an out of season species, hard to say the capt. wasn't targeting them.
Where did you read that it was 2/3 of the catch?

MakoMike 03-09-2012 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by macojoe (Post 926016)
The DEP was not on his boat under cover cause this was his first time!!
This boat has been doing it for a while I am sure, or why else they watching him??
First of all they weren't watching him, they were watching the fares. Secondly, how do you know it wasn't him that tipped the DEP?

MakoMike 03-09-2012 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by likwid (Post 926037)
You really need to reread R&R on having a ticket. The captain IS responsible for him, his crew, and his fares observing all applicable laws. Thats by the letter, not by "what you feel like it means".
You had better read read the R&R, the Captain is responsible for himself and his crew, not for the fares.

macojoe 03-09-2012 11:58 AM
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First of all they weren't watching him, they were watching the fares.
Thats right, they were on a self powered boat that searches for fish!

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Secondly, how do you know it wasn't him that tipped the DEP?
How do you know it was?

DEP and customers heard this boat does not go buy the rules, that's why they were there!
And who allows that rumor to get going??

I am sorry but this Captain is not a inosinate person!

MAKAI 03-09-2012 01:48 PM
Why do they bother arresting get away drivers. " I didn't know they were gonna rob the bank! "
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MakoMike 03-09-2012 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MAKAI (Post 926108)
Why do they bother arresting get away drivers. " I didn't know they were gonna rob the bank! "
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Thanks for proving my point, the captain was NOT cited, do you really think they would let him off if he was guilty of something?

zacs 03-09-2012 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MakoMike (Post 926119)
Thanks for proving my point, the captain was NOT cited, do you really think they would let him off if he was guilty of something?
why not? happens all the time...

MAKAI 03-09-2012 05:16 PM
So the poor captain was helpless as the dirtbag poachers ran amok on his vessel.
He turned a blind eye to it as I would bet was his normal MO. Moral coward, most Captains I know have enough clank in their balls not to allow that.
Stop defending your binky. He may not be charged but he was dead wrong.

MakoMike 03-09-2012 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MAKAI (Post 926131)
So the poor captain was helpless as the dirtbag poachers ran amok on his vessel.
He turned a blind eye to it as I would bet was his normal MO. Moral coward, most Captains I know have enough clank in their balls not to allow that.
Stop defending your binky. He may not be charged but he was dead wrong.
So again I'll ask, what do you think he should have done? Forcibly remove the fish from the cooler? Personally I don't even know the man.

And to answer Pat's question, yes he is Tony Bogan's brother (I think, I know they are related)

t.orlando 03-09-2012 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MakoMike (Post 926092)
Where did you read that it was 2/3 of the catch?
2400lbs of fish with 819 seabass. I just factored a 2lb average on the seabass, which shouldn't be unreasonable.

macojoe 03-09-2012 07:58 PM
I say we all hire Mako's boat and go fishing!! We take what we want he can't say or do crap! I am going to tell all that I know to call on his boat, he great!! He no cares what you take!!
Hey I know lets go on SB Fluke trip with him soon!! Be a great NO FUSS TRIP!!

MAKAI 03-09-2012 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MakoMike (Post 926137)
So again I'll ask, what do you think he should have done? Forcibly remove the fish from the cooler? Personally I don't even know the man.

And to answer Pat's question, yes he is Tony Bogan's brother (I think, I know they are related)
If sea bass are not the targeted fish, and that's a big if, once you or the crew see a few illegal fish going in the coolers, you ball up and tell them it is not allowed. Or you will pull the hook and go home.

No way said captain had his head so far up his ass he wasn't aware what was going on.

Sometimes it ain't about the "F" ing money. It's about doing the right thing. Not being afraid to be the Man. My God what a timid country we became.


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